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    Wink Crocop should drop down to 205 and beat Chuck Liddell silly

    Now that would be great

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    No, let him take out the trash in the heavy weight division first

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtom74
    No, let him take out the trash in the heavy weight division first
    Unless they bring in Fedor or Nog i dont see who can beat him, against Brandon Vera that could be a good fight and Arlovski.

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    dont worry ....... tito will beat chuck silly

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    CroCop cannot make 205lbs unless he cuts his leg off. I know people always say why does'nt he cut, he could cut. BS!

    He fights at 220-225lbs which means he walks around in the 230-235 range and gets down to 220-225lbs from the intense training.

    He does not have any fat to lose and would be losing alot of muscle mass to make 205lbs, he has a big frame, believe me i stood next to him. He is not making 205lbs.
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    I disagree, if he wanted to cut to 205 he could. He's no bigger then Tito. I'm not saying it would be easy, and I don't think he should do it, but I think he could do it without hindering his performance too much.

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    I have to agree with murilo on this one. Cutting that much, whether possible or not completely screws with a fighters body. You lose massive amounts of power and even though you are lighter, you tend to be slower as you are not always able to cope with how your body articulates at different weights. The one thing I hated when I went down to 170 from 185 where I did not mind fighting a bit too heavy was my right hand. It was easier to lay out a bigger opponent when I was 185 then it was hitting @ 170 missing the 15-20lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard01
    He's no bigger then Tito.
    You obviously haven't seen Tito's legs lately.

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    im not expert but if he comes down to 205 he will have nothing, he will come in too small and probably get knocked off easy.

    for someone too lose 35lb from their normal weight is too much in that type of fighting enviroment.

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    He is naturally bigger than Tito, there is a difference between a 230lb Tito Ortiz with higher BF% than CroCop walking around with very low BF%. I have never seen CroCop out of shape and carrying alot of body fat.

    His quads alone weigh 50lbs a peace. lol
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    CroCop legs are big has trees, well then Chuck Liddell should move up a weight class to get beat silly LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonar1234
    CroCop legs are big has trees, well then Chuck Liddell should move up a weight class to get beat silly LOL

    There you go, that is more realistic, but i doubt Chuck is in a hurry.
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    I don't think Vera would do to well. I'd be curious to see him versus Arlovsky

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    OMFG Longtom!!!!! thats the greatest Avatar Ive seen in quite some time

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    wont need crocop to beat chuck once rampage arrives

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    He is naturally bigger than Tito, there is a difference between a 230lb Tito Ortiz with higher BF% than CroCop walking around with very low BF%. I have never seen CroCop out of shape and carrying alot of body fat.

    His quads alone weigh 50lbs a peace. lol
    Not that its a good idea, but who do you think would have an easier time dropping to 205 Fedor or Crocop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quil
    You obviously haven't seen Tito's legs lately.
    LOL. Apparently he doesn't train them so he can still make 205.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power
    OMFG Longtom!!!!! thats the greatest Avatar Ive seen in quite some time

    Thanks I was hoping someone would like the pick, I got a dozen or so more with hughes in that position. Shoot me a pm and I'll send you some.

    This my other avatar in a fight board. My favorite....
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    e-mail it to matt hugues lol

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    cutting weight

    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    CroCop cannot make 205lbs unless he cuts his leg off. I know people always say why does'nt he cut, he could cut. BS!

    He fights at 220-225lbs which means he walks around in the 230-235 range and gets down to 220-225lbs from the intense training.

    He does not have any fat to lose and would be losing alot of muscle mass to make 205lbs, he has a big frame, believe me i stood next to him. He is not making 205lbs.
    titio walks around at 230lbs before he goes into traing camp unless he just came off a fight were his weight is maintained. fact!!!!! randy courture samething. joe stevenson 185lbs- 190lbs before traing camp, fights at 155lbs. how do i know? been there!!!!

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    tito...spell check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar
    im not expert but if he comes down to 205 he will have nothing, he will come in too small and probably get knocked off easy.

    for someone too lose 35lb from their normal weight is too much in that type of fighting enviroment.
    It'd be more like 20-25 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    dont worry ....... tito will beat chuck silly
    HAHAHAHA....WOW!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster101
    titio walks around at 230lbs before he goes into traing camp unless he just came off a fight were his weight is maintained. fact!!!!! randy courture samething. joe stevenson 185lbs- 190lbs before traing camp, fights at 155lbs. how do i know? been there!!!!

    And your point is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    And your point is?
    Same thing I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    CroCop cannot make 205lbs unless he cuts his leg off. I know people always say why does'nt he cut, he could cut. BS!

    He fights at 220-225lbs which means he walks around in the 230-235 range and gets down to 220-225lbs from the intense training.

    He does not have any fat to lose and would be losing alot of muscle mass to make 205lbs, he has a big frame, believe me i stood next to him. He is not making 205lbs.
    well you say crocop cant make 205. im telling you that 3 well known fighters that ive seen with my own eyes on the scale are 20lbs to 30lbs 6-8 weeks before they fight. cropcop is right there. thats my point!!!!! he can make 205lbs. he has alot more water and fat then you think he does.
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    Exclamation official record and weight!!!!!!!!!

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    213lbs, you mean to tell me he cant make 205lbs, your on crack thats my point!!!!!!! when hes fighting heavy weight hes encourage to put on more weight to compete with the big boys. how you see him as a heavy weight is how you see him soaked and wet. crocop can maintaine the natural weight he needs to to fight 205 lbs like he has.
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    Ok, you are right..we all agree with you. I mean you have trained (or whatever) with big bad Team Punishment...

    ***bows down***

    And for the record, you are a jackass if you think CroCop weighs 213lbs..i don't give a crap what the fight finder say's. Why don't you get your head out of Tito's ass and ask CroCop if he can make 205lbs and then come back here report what he say's.

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    i know that crocop is not 213lbs right now, but he was close to 205lbs at one time i wasnt going to tell you, you wouldnt belive me i had to show you. listen all im saying is that i think he can make 205lbs when hes not trying to put on weight for guys like mark hunt. what weight he can make, and what his future is brighter at are two different things be it heavy weight or light heavy. your right we wont know until we ask him. either witch way theres going to be hell to pay . as soon as i know i will report ...like bj is out of the ufc he signed with show time, my bro is at his school right now on the island and saide thats what all the students are saying??? hey you heard it from rooster101 first.and for the record, i am not a tito fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster101
    ...like bj is out of the ufc he signed with show time, my bro is at his school right now on the island and saide thats what all the students are saying??? hey you heard it from rooster101 first.and for the record, i am not a tito fan.
    Are you referring to BJ Penn? If so, refer to front page of mmaweekly.

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    your right

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    Are you referring to BJ Penn? If so, refer to front page of mmaweekly.
    ive known that for a while. i dont know why his students would say that?? not saying that there right . good find. bj's going to kill him, but thats another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    dont worry ....... tito will beat chuck silly
    with what? he can't strike effectively, chuck's wrestling is alot better, neither is a JJ whiz, and chuck could get hit over the head with a sledgehammer and not get kayo'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster101
    ive known that for a while. i dont know why his students would say that?? not saying that there right . good find. bj's going to kill him, but thats another thread.
    Maybe becouse your brother isn't training with them. Also I went back and watched joe stevenson vs edwards post fight speech he said something to the effect he spent alot of time at big bear training with tito however he did not say that in his last fight just that he spent time at big bear. Also I have never met a proffesional mma fight or trainer that says things like he "bj's gonna kill him." Also never count pulver out, he has lost to gomi and sakuria to great lightweights and 9 times out of 10 he would have be lauzen he got caught. Will he win probably not does he have a shot? sure as hell does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja
    There you go, that is more realistic, but i doubt Chuck is in a hurry.
    Chuck seems to be interested in fighting the same person 3 or 4 times then picks out an easy apponent then fights him 3 or 4 times at this rate he would only fight 5 or 6 decent fighters in his career.

    Gooooo Titooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter
    Maybe becouse your brother isn't training with them. Also I went back and watched joe stevenson vs edwards post fight speech he said something to the effect he spent alot of time at big bear training with tito however he did not say that in his last fight just that he spent time at big bear. .
    i dont have any reason to make that up nore does he, now your just trying to throw punches. listen you have no idea who i am to call me out on that infromation, if i didnt think you were just some little punk id give you a phone number to call and make you feel stupid. i realize you dont care who i am because your safe behind you computer in minnnesota. i respect your opinions, but dont basically call me a laire by saying my bro is not there!!!!! i posted that infromation for guys like you to enjoy eairly news that no one will hear about for mounths. and trust me i do hear the news well before everyone else. now weather its a rumor or not, time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster101
    i dont have any reason to make that up nore does he, now your just trying to throw punches. listen you have no idea who i am to call me out on that infromation, if i didnt think you were just some little punk id give you a phone number to call and make you feel stupid. i realize you dont care who i am because your safe behind you computer in minnnesota. i respect your opinions, but dont basically call me a laire by saying my bro is not there!!!!! i posted that infromation for guys like you to enjoy eairly news that no one will hear about for mounths. and trust me i do hear the news well before everyone else. now weather its a rumor or not, time will tell.
    What I am suppose to bow down cause you train proffesional mma fighters whoope f*cking do I make my pro debute this year. I dont believe you plain and simple, your stories hold no weight imo. By they Way I am little 5'7 thats why I am a lightweight jesus.

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    i dont expect you do bow down to me, or anyone else. the story will be just that untill we all know for sure in the near future.im not saying you have to belive what im saying, just keep it under you hat see if it happens. i'll always respect you and your opinons other wise i wouldnt bother to write you back. good luck on your next fight!!!! hope you smoke him in the first round.

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    Cro-Cop can make 205. He could be the 1st man to hold the HW and LHW UFC titles at the same time. If Zuffa doesn't add talent to the Hw ranks after Cro-Cop beats the current "contenders", this could possibly happen.

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    I loved it when CroCop beat Sapp. It looked like Sapp was crying at the end!

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