Hardest puncher ever?

**BTM0085** · 12-13-2008, 10:57 PM

Id say George Foreman? thoughts?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YuQJrewPsY

**MuscleScience** · 12-13-2008, 11:17 PM

Rocky M had an 87% KO rate.

**Deltasaurus** · 12-13-2008, 11:18 PM

Ernie Shavers
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano most knockouts % wise 49-0 42 KO's i think

Tyson was the most explosive puncher but not the hardest hitting

and yet Ali is the Goat and so is Joe Louis its not all about punching power but yeah id say thoes are my top 3 in the HW division

-AJ

**Big** · 12-13-2008, 11:19 PM

for just brutal punching power, Tyson in his prime was pretty damn good.

**MuscleScience** · 12-13-2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

Ernie Shavers
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano most knockouts % wise 49-0 42 KO's i think

Tyson was the most explosive puncher but not the hardest hitting

and yet Ali is the Goat and so is Joe Louis its not all about punching power but yeah id say thoes are my top 3 in the HW division

-AJ

44......

**MuscleScience** · 12-13-2008, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Big

for just brutal punching power, Tyson in his prime was pretty damn good.

Tyson in his prime was a manimal!!!

**WARMachine** · 12-14-2008, 12:31 AM

Ive heard stories of Rocky M.

I dont think Ali had the hardest punching power at all...

Perhaps Joe Louis, Rocky, or maybe even Sonny Liston?

Probably Rocky though...

**MuscleScience** · 12-14-2008, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

Ive heard stories of Rocky M.

I dont think Ali had the hardest punching power at all...

Perhaps Joe Louis, Rocky, or maybe even Sonny Liston?

Probably Rocky though...

I read a rocky biography a few years ago. They had a story about how they did a test on his punching power. The test concluded that he had the same kinetic energy behind his punch as an armor piercing bullet.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 12-14-2008, 12:41 AM

Shavers
Tua

oh and Kimbo and Lesnar

**fitaccent** · 12-14-2008, 02:39 AM

Tyson, although Ivan Drago was pretty ass too. Didn't he have like 1200psi on that punching machine?

**J-Dogg** · 12-14-2008, 03:00 AM

Rocky M...... I'll be the first to say it I guess.

Can you really compare a fighter from from the 1940's to fighters from 2000?

The idea of a "legend" is great, but in 50 years, sports and athletes have come a long way.

Arnold is a LEGEND, but put him on a stage against Jay C. and Ronnie and he looks like a teenager.

**yannick35** · 12-14-2008, 08:24 AM

Crocodile Dundee

**nath78** · 12-14-2008, 08:40 AM

**** me brock lesnar on a ground and pound!!

like most ppl are saying rocky marciano or george foreman.

ali vs foreman 'rope a dope' what a boxer!!!ali must have been an animal du see how many puches he took off foreman???****inll....

TYSONS THE KING THO!!!!

**nath78** · 12-14-2008, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

Rocky M...... I'll be the first to say it I guess.

Can you really compare a fighter from from the 1940's to fighters from 2000?

The idea of a "legend" is great, but in 50 years, sports and athletes have come a long way.

Arnold is a LEGEND, but put him on a stage against Jay C. and Ronnie and he looks like a teenager.

its like rocky vs drago aint it training back in the olden days was much better for boxers the training techneches they used hit all the little hard to get to muscles and stuff like that eg flipping tyres etc makes you more ferocious that doing deadlifts.look at that 300 training sxhedule (yes i know there six packes were drawn on but..)where they flipped tires and used sledge hammers(like mma stars are using now because its better than any gym work,for there fighting on the floor)youd be much stronger if you trained like that than on a machine in the gym.boxers back then are just as good as boxers these days.if there was a time machine and you could bring marciano back let me see some one stopp him.

**J-Dogg** · 12-14-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by nath78

its like rocky vs drago aint it training back in the olden days was much better for boxers the training techneches they used hit all the little hard to get to muscles and stuff like that eg flipping tyres etc makes you more ferocious that doing deadlifts.look at that 300 training sxhedule (yes i know there six packes were drawn on but..)where they flipped tires and used sledge hammers(like mma stars are using now because its better than any gym work,for there fighting on the floor)youd be much stronger if you trained like that than on a machine in the gym.boxers back then are just as good as boxers these days.if there was a time machine and you could bring marciano back let me see some one stopp him.

You do realize Rocky IV is a movie right? Ivan Drago is actually an actor, lol.

And to be honest, if it was real, Ivan was in far better shape, and a better physical boxer than Rocky.

Rocky won that fight, the same way he won all his fights. He had a bigger heart than his opponet.

**nath78** · 12-14-2008, 10:52 AM

no i thought rocky was a documentary!!!

***FireGuy*** · 12-14-2008, 11:47 AM

Tyson flat out devastated anyone in front of him for years.

**Tigershark** · 12-14-2008, 01:41 PM

Rocky hands down was the best hitter and ultimate bad ass. On an A&E biography they told a story that at age 44 he was leaving a restaurant in Chicago when two guys tried to mug him. He got stabbed twice then knocked both of them out. Then he propped them up next to a car and waited for the cops. While waiting the two woke up and he lectured them to respect thier elders.

Video is a little long but start at 1:30 and watch for the next 15 seconds. This is considered the hardest punch in boxing history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6xEo-ijH0

**WARMachine** · 12-15-2008, 12:12 AM

^^^ Nice link bro!!

**Brown Ninja** · 12-15-2008, 12:13 AM

Tyson used to knock people out with body shots, that is something.

**WARMachine** · 12-15-2008, 12:16 AM

B-Hop vs DLH??? ^^^

**MuscleScience** · 12-15-2008, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Tigershark

Rocky hands down was the best hitter and ultimate bad ass. On an A&E biography they told a story that at age 44 he was leaving a restaurant in Chicago when two guys tried to mug him. He got stabbed twice then knocked both of them out. Then he propped them up next to a car and waited for the cops. While waiting the two woke up and he lectured them to respect thier elders.

Video is a little long but start at 1:30 and watch for the next 15 seconds. This is considered the hardest punch in boxing history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6xEo-ijH0

It looked like his head spun right around.....

**Knockout_Power** · 12-15-2008, 12:31 PM

13 rounds into a fight and still being able to generate that kind of snap and power is amazing. I wonder how many of todays fighters could do bell to bell 12+ round fight. They are Legends for a reason

**J-Dogg** · 12-15-2008, 02:42 PM

That was a nice by Rocky, caught him good, lol.

I'll still say that Tyson hit many people harder than that.

**Knockout_Power** · 12-15-2008, 04:10 PM

definately. Tyson would do a quick shuffle (usually left) and position himself almost perpendicular to his opponent and rip a nasty hook. I think someone mentionned above how he could KO opponents with body shots.

Completely useless info, but I believe Drago hit 1800psi in the movie, Tyson, I believe, was recorded @ just over 1500 in the early 90's

**Matt** · 12-15-2008, 05:36 PM

My mum!! She had a mean right hook.

**Dog-Slime** · 12-15-2008, 05:42 PM

Tyson fo sho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7wUOCADxq0

**Brown Ninja** · 12-15-2008, 08:09 PM

Don't forget Tommy "Gun" Morrison

**Deltasaurus** · 12-15-2008, 08:59 PM

I love tyson and ahve every single last one of his fights including amatuer on DVD and i will say he is 100% not the hardest puncher by any means,Yes he was a very powerful and IMO the MOST explosive but not the Hardest.
Tua
Shavers
Foreman
Marciano
Dempsey

all hit harder IMO

but tyson was also IMO the most exciting to watch but like every one of us he had his flaws in and out of the ring

-AJ

**jbran23** · 12-16-2008, 11:17 AM

Hard to say for sure without having them actually measured per psi which makes for a good debate. I think it was Bobby Chyz said during a Tyson replay that speed+power=destruction. Makes sense and we all know how strong Tyson was and you add to the fact he might have had the fastest hands of any heavyweight except for probably Ali and you might have the hardest puncher. He was just built for power too, short and compact and just created sooo much leverage with his punches. He's got my vote.

**ilovesus** · 12-16-2008, 11:34 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McjwV1oy**g

**graeme87** · 12-16-2008, 03:36 PM

Marciano hit hard but at 185lbs I would put him at number one, also remember the gloves were smaller then.

Forman again a solid punch but they were big wound up swings with no snap in them, most people can generate decent power with that large a wind up on the punch.

Tyson could end a fight with a 6 inch punch from either hand, he has to take number one in my book.

**Deltasaurus** · 12-16-2008, 05:23 PM

Chuck Norris hit way harder than Tyson Ever Did!!!!

-AJ

**graeme87** · 12-16-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

Chuck Norris hit way harder than Tyson Ever Did!!!!

-AJ

lol you're taking the piss right?

**F4iGuy** · 12-16-2008, 08:01 PM

I vote Tyson, followed by Ken/Ryu

**Brown Ninja** · 12-16-2008, 08:09 PM

Dana White

**WHOADY4SHOADY** · 12-16-2008, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by BTM0085;4335***

Id say George Foreman? thoughts?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YuQJrewPsY

I dont know mna, but he makes a mean grill.

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-16-2008, 11:24 PM

marciano ..he'd hit their arms till they couldn't hold them up to protect themselves and absolutely tee off...amazing. that wolcott vid is almost downright scary !!

**WHOADY4SHOADY** · 12-16-2008, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

Rocky M...... I'll be the first to say it I guess.

Can you really compare a fighter from from the 1940's to fighters from 2000?

The idea of a "legend" is great, but in 50 years, sports and athletes have come a long way.

Arnold is a LEGEND, but put him on a stage against Jay C. and Ronnie and he looks like a teenager.

And yet some how he still looks way better.

**Knockout_Power** · 12-17-2008, 10:14 AM

whats the most amazing thing about Tyson's punches is that he would hit that hard and his own body would not move on impact. Normally, when a punch lands, the fighter who throws it is pushed back slightly. Even Tyson's shoulder and hip follow through. I like how he cleaned up a division that was, at the time, a lot of just huge heavy punchers