taewkondo

**fitguy** · 03-13-2009, 05:15 PM

what do you guys think of it as far as self defense goes?

**Bench Machine** · 03-13-2009, 05:43 PM

It is ok but pretty expensive. WE call it takesonesdough

**fitguy** · 03-13-2009, 06:06 PM

is there much cardio in it? there is no use of hands whatsoever right?

**Bench Machine** · 03-13-2009, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

is there much cardio in it? there is no use of hands whatsoever right?

Yeah there is. Taewkondo means the way of the hand and foot so yes there is hands involved and some pretty killer kicks they are my favorite

***D7M*** · 03-13-2009, 06:12 PM

cardio is not that intense,

and for self defense there are much better options out there

**Hunter** · 03-13-2009, 07:28 PM

The lack of contact can be problem esp with all the pads you wear. Kyushin karate would be a better bet. I would look into boxing or muay thai tho. Bjj is a good bet also but going to the ground with multiple attackers is not the best idea how bjj is very effective. Judo with the right dojo is also very effective becouse a good throw on cement can be a fight ender. However if you become heavily reliant on the gi its not super effective however in colder climates a heavy jacket can function as a gi. Taekwondo is better then nothing and can be very effective with the right training and implimenting of its strengths

**WARMachine** · 03-15-2009, 07:06 PM

worthless...

Utterly worthless.

**swol_je** · 03-15-2009, 07:39 PM

I was in tae kwon do when I was 6 y/o till I was 13 y/o I am a 2nd degree black belt, but quit to pursue football in jr high. I wish i would have tried a few different martial arts instead of just sticking with one. But it definitly helpe me learn how to fight and counter attack.

**igorotsp** · 03-21-2009, 07:38 AM

Just what WARmachine said. Just worthless! Take BJJ and Muay Thai better

***T-MOS*** · 03-21-2009, 09:12 AM

Honestly TaeKwonDo is not much in the way of defense as it is a SPORT for competition. It stems from Tang Soo Do which is the original Korean Martial Art.

Tae Kwon Do students are taught how to be quick to get a point in but they usually are not taught power. They teach to use different parts of foot to "slap" a point in instead of proper way if you wanted to kill someone.

This is JUST my humble opinion and experience from 23 years of Tang Soo Do training and competing. I mean NO offense to any Tae Kwon Do students or schools.

**PittBoy** · 03-21-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Honestly TaeKwonDo is not much in the way of defense as it is a SPORT for competition. It stems from Tang Soo Do which is the original Korean Martial Art.

Tae Kwon Do students are taught how to be quick to get a point in but they usually are not taught power. They teach to use different parts of foot to "slap" a point in instead of proper way if you wanted to kill someone.

This is JUST my humble opinion and experience from 23 years of Tang Soo Do training and competing. I mean NO offense to any Tae Kwon Do students or schools.

I was under the impression that there were multiple styles of Taekwondo like there are multiple styles of karate.

The taekwondo style I studied focused on form and self defense and not on point sparring. The founder of the style also paid the Gracy's to train with him to show him some ground defense which we also learned. GrandMaster Lee also worked with some of the different divisions of state police to show them self defense techniques and pressure point techniques which we also learned.

I agree that I wouldn't study a martial art that was dedicated to point sparring but one that teaches self defense.

I also agree BJJ would be the way to go but it does all boil down to personal preference and BJJ schools aren't as available as standard karate schools are.

Just my .002

**Geordi LaForge** · 03-21-2009, 11:48 AM

Boxing.

Taekwondon't.

**elpropiotorvic** · 03-26-2009, 05:31 PM

i would say ur better off watching videos of self defense on youtube... try something thats got more contact

**Bench Machine** · 03-26-2009, 08:01 PM

This Guy might be able to teach you....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2U-Z...&feature=email

**thai-lan** · 03-26-2009, 11:14 PM

IMO taekwando sucks , me and most of my friends make fun of the people that train taekwando .

This video is a good example why i think it sucks. Hope you enjoy watching it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6EDuaIrDLg

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

IMO taekwando sucks , me and most of my friends make fun of the people that train taekwando .

This video is a good example why i think it sucks. Hope you enjoy watching it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6EDuaIrDLg

Damnn looked like he broke the guys neck...it also looked like the MMA guy had about 50 lbs over the karate guy

**Deltasaurus** · 03-26-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by derek7m

cardio is not that intense,

and for self defense there are much better options out there

I agree

Originally Posted by WARMachine

worthless...

Utterly worthless.

i dont agree its worthless but much better choices out there

Originally Posted by igorotsp

Just what WARmachine said. Just worthless! Take BJJ and Muay Thai better

now my point is if one were to take TKD for say 5 years and someone else took BJJ or Muay Thai for 1 year the latter to would win IMHO

-AJ

**WARMachine** · 03-26-2009, 11:26 PM

I think if you took MT for a month and liked to fight, youd probably beat the TKD guy.

**thai-lan** · 03-27-2009, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

I think if you took MT for a month and liked to fight, youd probably beat the TKD guy.

believe me you could beat tkd dudes. They are whole bunch of posers and in action they cant do shit , they d only get beaten !!

Just like Japanese Jiujitsu guys !! This guy that i grappled with is black belt in JJ and he was too stubborn to tap out though i tapped him out twice , once with K-lock ( i hurt his shoulder because he didnt tap out when he was supposed to ) then triangle choke. what im trying to say is all those tkd , jj and shit like that are useless you will get somewhere only training boxing , muay thai, bjj.

**WARMachine** · 03-27-2009, 01:55 AM

I like Japanese Jiu Jitsu.

But thats probably cause i try to train as much as i can in every disipline.

**thai-lan** · 03-27-2009, 07:49 AM

sorry to talk shit about JJJ :P i hope no hard feelings... give bjj a try im sure you will like it

**Brown Ninja** · 03-28-2009, 08:47 PM

The Foot Fist Way

**WARMachine** · 03-31-2009, 01:59 AM

sorry to talk shit about JJJ :P i hope no hard feelings... give bjj a try im sure you will like it

Are you saying I should try BJJ?

I think i might!

**thai-lan** · 03-31-2009, 03:22 AM

yup bjj is good fun, especially if ur a quick learner you will love it

**CSAR** · 03-31-2009, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

yup bjj is good fun, especially if ur a quick learner you will love it

Dude, he's a BJJ instructor with his own dojo. That's like telling Ronnie Coleman, "Yup lifting weights is good fun, especially if ur a quick learner you will love it."

**thai-lan** · 03-31-2009, 01:54 PM

i dont even know him , i said bjj is good fun. I like training it and i said my personal opinion.
LOL at DOJO. I dont think anybody trains/instructs bjj would call the place DOJO... DOJO sounds like one of those gay kendo places to train

**Brown Ninja** · 03-31-2009, 04:34 PM

I challenge you to a duel at my dojo!

**thai-lan** · 03-31-2009, 04:39 PM

hope you dont make eye contact with your opponents

**CSAR** · 03-31-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

i dont even know him , i said bjj is good fun. I like training it and i said my personal opinion.
LOL at DOJO. I dont think anybody trains/instructs bjj would call the place DOJO... DOJO sounds like one of those gay kendo places to train

You wouldn't need to know him. Anyone who actually trains could read his posts and have an idea he is knowledgeable about BJJ. You'd have to be pretty ignorant (in addition to being a douchebag) not to notice and recommend BJJ to someone who does it for a living.

Jujutsu, jiujitsu, or however one chooses to spell it, is of Japanese etymology, as is dojo. There's nothing gay about it. BJJ dojo, BJJ academy, BJJ club, BJJ gym, etc., etc., whatever you want to call it would be acceptable. There's no need to bring your sexual preference into it. What you do in the privacy of your own home is your own business.

Here's a link to a BJJ dojo. Feel free to stop by and tell them what you think of their word choice and be sure to advise them to try it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6JwjLqL2mU

**Hunter** · 03-31-2009, 09:47 PM

Does anyone know I am knowledgable? *cries well holding bjj gi*

**thai-lan** · 03-31-2009, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by CSAR

You wouldn't need to know him. Anyone who actually trains could read his posts and have an idea he is knowledgeable about BJJ. You'd have to be pretty ignorant (in addition to being a douchebag) not to notice and recommend BJJ to someone who does it for a living.

Jujutsu, jiujitsu, or however one chooses to spell it, is of Japanese etymology, as is dojo. There's nothing gay about it. BJJ dojo, BJJ academy, BJJ club, BJJ gym, etc., etc., whatever you want to call it would be acceptable. There's no need to bring your sexual preference into it. What you do in the privacy of your own home is your own business.

Here's a link to a BJJ dojo. Feel free to stop by and tell them what you think of their word choice and be sure to advise them to try it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6JwjLqL2mU

whatever. anyway warmachine how long have you been training bjj for??

**CSAR** · 04-01-2009, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

Does anyone know I am knowledgable? *cries well holding bjj gi*

No we don't know, but we do think you're still in the closet. Your gi is very clean and smells of Channel Coco. Hmmm...suspicious to say the least.

**CSAR** · 04-01-2009, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

whatever.

Awww. Come on, let's all be friends now. No hard feelings. We all know I'm an asshole.

**Brown Ninja** · 04-01-2009, 10:03 AM

maybe you guys should fight at a dojo?

**thai-lan** · 04-01-2009, 12:01 PM

haha quit calling it dojo :P

**WARMachine** · 04-05-2009, 04:23 PM

anyway warmachine how long have you been training bjj for??

Been training since i was around 10? Didnt compete till i was about 15 though.

Wrestling longer than that.

Pretty much grappling my whole life.

Academy, School, Dojo, Studio... Same shit. Doesnt mean the same thing in english anyway...

**Brown Ninja** · 04-06-2009, 08:03 PM

I train at a brothel

**tyward** · 04-06-2009, 08:58 PM

Yes, Brown Ninja I've trained there too, but the belt levels are very confusing.

**maxx3** · 05-20-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

worthless...

Utterly worthless.

Agreed!

I took TKD for years, and many other systems...

If you want self defense (aka street fighting)... Go with a modern system like Krav Maga or others like that...

**maxx3** · 05-20-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by igorotsp

Just what WARmachine said. Just worthless! Take BJJ and Muay Thai better

BJJ (best to win on the ground)
Freestyle Wrestling (best for ground control)
Muay Thai (best all around stand up)
Boxing (best for the hands)
MMA (putting it all together)

but, all of those have rules... for self defense I would go Krav or something like that...

my .02

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