My 1st BJJTournament

**Deltasaurus** · 05-11-2009, 04:56 PM

i enjoyed the hell out of it.

I think my gassing had alot to do with nerves cuz i swear i have rolled way harder before just not infront of so many people.
In class im the to learn so i dont care about losing, its about learning.
Competition its like All or Nothing.
either way i changed my training.

I do 1 heavy set per exercise 3-7reps max, then after im done i do 3 ciruits at reps of 6-8
then 10-12
then 20-25

**WARMachine** · 05-11-2009, 05:19 PM

Nice job getting out there and competing brutha!

Im proud of you for getting out there.

Im sure thats more than a lot of people in class can say.

Kudos bro!

So!! Doing worlds?

**Deltasaurus** · 05-11-2009, 05:24 PM

I was considering it, not sure though theres a guy who has been white belt for 13months and he's in my weightclass at cassio's and i think hes taking Gold.
Im shooting for doing US OPEN and taking Gold their. not sure.

Man though my nerves killed my cardio

**ACJiujitsu** · 05-11-2009, 07:17 PM

do as many comps as you can,soon it will become just like rolling in class.I try to compete every few months and i have 2 coming up in June, about 2 weeks apart,one of which is grapplers quest.You'll be doin multiple divisions before you know it.

War....Sent you pM

**Deltasaurus** · 05-11-2009, 10:59 PM

u doing Worlds?

***RAGE*** · 05-11-2009, 11:24 PM

great job bro, it will get easier, the more you roll the better you will get, but remember it is a life style just like bb.

**ACJiujitsu** · 05-13-2009, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

u doing Worlds?

probably not,im juggling job,kids,training etc.Im gonna go on a strict weight training program,then do the pan-ams next year.Im content with grapplers quest and Bud cup etc.

**WARMachine** · 05-13-2009, 09:03 PM

^ think he was talkin to me. lol

No worries.

BTW, ive heard this is the last time Worlds will be in the US for a while. So if youve got the chance, go for it...

**amcon** · 05-13-2009, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

any tips or comments are Welcomed

dont break your arm and dont take any mt2 or viagra before you start your fight

**Deltasaurus** · 05-13-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

^ think he was talkin to me. lol

No worries.

BTW, ive heard this is the last time Worlds will be in the US for a while. So if youve got the chance, go for it...

yeah are you?

and why u think it wont be in the US for a while? i was under the impression they were having much bigger turn outs here then in Brazil

**WARMachine** · 05-13-2009, 11:18 PM

They are.

But its up to the IBJJF. AKA the Gracies.

I doubt itll be here next year. Mark my words...

**Deltasaurus** · 05-13-2009, 11:23 PM

i plan on going down there to watch my buddy's, if i go, i wanna meet up with u

**thabeastmaster** · 05-20-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by zimmy

Yep...doesn't matter if you pull guard...they still took you down.

not sure where u competed but pulling guard is NOT a takedown.....ive competed in NAGA and several other smaller venues on eastcoast....a takedown is a takedown...pulling guard is just that....pulling guard....i would know, thats all i used to do because my takedowns and takedown defense are GARBAGE CAN...LOL.....

**thabeastmaster** · 05-20-2009, 09:54 AM

A2theJ...congrats on your experience!!!

adrenaline dump is a huge factor the only way to get over that is...MORE COMPETITIONS!!! You learn so much about yourself via comp's...such a great experience....

you will have ups and downs....i stopped competing when i got tired of paying NAGA prices just to get held down by sandbagging wrestlers....i think the final straw for me was competing in the 2 year and under cat....and losing to a guy who admited to me after the match he had wrestled for 10 years but done judo for like 2 weeks and didnt even know any submissions...he said once he heard what school i trained at he got scared so he just took me down and stalled me for 5 minutes winning 2 nothing for the takedown points...not for 80 dollars...not me...lol

be prepared for it all...and above alllllllllllll else....HAVE FUN....
i cant train anymore due to several injuries and mentally it has destroyed me...enjoy it while you can!!!!

**ACJiujitsu** · 05-24-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by thabeastmaster

not sure where u competed but pulling guard is NOT a takedown.....ive competed in NAGA and several other smaller venues on eastcoast....a takedown is a takedown...pulling guard is just that....pulling guard....i would know, thats all i used to do because my takedowns and takedown defense are GARBAGE CAN...LOL.....

he was saying if you pull guard to avoid a takedown,ie.if the guy is in the process of attempting a takedown and you pull guard while he's going for it,they still get the takedown points.Thats how it is in most events,US GRAPPLING,GRAPPLERS QUEST,ETC.

**Deltasaurus** · 05-27-2009, 10:28 PM

I got my first good sub on a blue belt today armbar from guard, he was a low level blue and i was strong and more athletic then him but he was about 30-40lbs heavier than me

woohoo

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-09-2009, 05:03 PM

good for you bro.its a great feeling when you realize that your learning.The 1st good sub on a higher rank makes it all worth it

**Deltasaurus** · 06-09-2009, 11:33 PM

Did u hear about Roger at the Worlds 9 subs all Gi chokes from mount.

Cass sound it was boring he would sweep everyone and mount and then Gi choke, he said its amazing how Dominant someone can be at the level, and how good it is too come into a tournament with a gameplan and how to move towards it in any position

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-11-2009, 10:10 AM

Yeah Roger's amazing.He's becoming one of the if not the G.O.A.T. They say once he gets mount its only a matter of time till he gets the sub. One of his students was saying that he practices that exact posistion and that choke/chokes all the time. He gets mount,then uses his hip to push his elbow,which makes it easier for him to get the 1st hand(lets say right hand) in the collar.Then he bases out on his left forearm over top of his opponents head,and sticks just his thumb in the collar on the other side.Then he brings the arm up over the face to the neck,and finishes the choke.His student says the pressure,and his insane grip are enough to make you want to tap before he even leans forward to finish.He's destroying people with very basic jiujitsu,which is nice to see,especially for guys who arent acrobatic.I really like the way that Roger,Kron etc play BJJ

**WARMachine** · 06-11-2009, 03:13 PM

Im not convinced that Roger is the GOAT till he and Xande go at it. Sucks he was hurt this year. He was at the comp though.

BTW, a few of Rogers wins were by ezikel as well. But nonetheless, he was very impressive.

Everyone knew what he was going to do, and no one could stop it. I think he only got 4 points scored on him in all 9 fights. One guy got a takedown, and the other got the sweep. Then Roger swept back.

It was a great tournament overall. Allian ce has some loud motherfvckers man...

I was at the tourn all weekend. Had some young guys REALLY step up. I had a fantastic time. Shame you couldnt come down AJ.

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-12-2009, 08:03 AM

how did marcos terragrossa do?Who was the suprise of the tourney for you War?Who impressed you the most?

**Deltasaurus** · 06-12-2009, 07:53 PM

Marco's
did well but ended up losing on points in the quarter finals i believe. not 100% though

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-16-2009, 07:16 PM

Marcos is a cool guy,i watched him and Jared weiner have a great match at Us grappling like 2 years ago.I think Jared won,but it was very close,although i could be wrong.

**WARMachine** · 06-19-2009, 01:38 PM

The surprise for me was watching Roger finish all his fights from mount. Everyone knew what he was gonna do, but he did it anyway.

I was hanging with Galvao for while on that Saturday. We were talking about Roger and if we had a shot against him. haha Hes a very nice guy man.

**Deltasaurus** · 06-19-2009, 02:39 PM

i talked to Marco's guess he got screwed tapped his 1st opponent and 2nd but ref didnt see it and gave dude the fight and guess what he was Gracie Barra. what do u know.

I like getting mount and doing the ezekiel choke but if they buck u back to guard u dont have the sub so wouldnt collar chokes be better?

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-20-2009, 09:32 AM

i think for myself,the collar choke from mount is the way to go.Like you said if you get reversed,you can lock up the full guard and have a better chance.Roger is a different animal,and once he gets mount he can pretty much do whatever he pleases.I thought the 1st match Roger had was also the most competitive.I dont remember who it was though.The guy almost pulled off a sweep,but ended up mounted and choked obviously.I'll see if i can find it.

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-20-2009, 09:33 AM

i just checked the youtube link and they pulled all his matches.

**ACJiujitsu** · 06-20-2009, 09:35 AM

I cant wait,monday night Relson is coming to do a seminar in Philly.Its alsways a good time and brings out all the other guys you dont normally see.

**bjpennnn** · 06-20-2009, 11:37 AM

the nerves your talking about are real, but its different when you get out there and are actually competing. its seems like you kick it up one r two gears that you never even knew you had ya know, and so does your competitor. My thing to you would be to try to stay as calm as you can, and as you know dont count on your strength as much, technique son.

**bjpennnn** · 06-20-2009, 11:38 AM

aww you do gi bjj lol dont like that stuff ha. hell of a workout though.

**Deltasaurus** · 06-20-2009, 11:54 AM

U may dislike it but know that in MMA all the top guys train or trained GI, coming up to a fight they may not but all of them at the top level trained GI, Penn,Gsp,Fedor,Anderson.etc

**WARMachine** · 06-20-2009, 11:15 PM

^ Actually Fedor didnt train BJJ.

But he does do Sambo. And thats with a GI so...

Mount isnt my position anyway bro. I like to go side control to north south. Even half guard.

Far side armbars, north south chokes, along with Cross collar chokes, and D'arce chokes from half guard and turtle postion. I usually score with the takedowns. Thats my bread and butter.

I didnt do so great recently. Still upset about it...

**MuscleScience** · 06-20-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

U may dislike it but know that in MMA all the top guys train or trained GI, coming up to a fight they may not but all of them at the top level trained GI, Penn,Gsp,Fedor,Anderson.etc

I dont much like training with a Gi when I do any martial art. However I see the value of starting off and learning the fundamentals. Since I train MMA just for fun and to help the guys train for their fights we train mostly without a gi just like in the fight. I have to admit that using the gi has great training and practical uses. I got my drunk ass saved a year or two ago in a bar by applying a choke I learned from the standing position from the first placed I trained Gi based BJJ.

**thabeastmaster** · 06-24-2009, 06:15 PM

as much as i hated Gi as i progressed, i still think it is ESSENTIAL for developing the fundamentals.....offensively the handles allow you to get that first submission a little easier...the more you get it, the closer you get to being able to put that move in your arsenal......defensively, once you are used to the TECHNICAL and PROPER way to get out of an attack with a Gi on....well, its a lot of fun when you take that thing off for the first time! Ive been off the mat since 06' and if i ever went back, id be wearing my Gi again until i got my game back....

**gunslinger2** · 09-16-2009, 12:26 AM

I also don't like training with the gi because I have seen many people grow very dependent on it. At my last school there were two guys that could beat me maybe half the time when we rolled with the gi, but when I took the gi off I could beat them every time we rolled because all of their hand holds went away.

I think its good to start with a gi, I did for my first 4-5 years, but after that I think its very important that you learn to roll without it. I win about 70-80% of the time with leg locks and rear naked choke.

**zimmy** · 09-16-2009, 06:20 AM

1. This is one old thread :P

2. I kinda have to disagree with you gunslinger...anyone can win at no gi...lets you be sloppy. If you can spar with a noose around your kneck then you know you can win without one.

**gunslinger2** · 09-16-2009, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by zimmy

1. This is one old thread :P

2. I kinda have to disagree with you gunslinger...anyone can win at no gi...lets you be sloppy. If you can spar with a noose around your kneck then you know you can win without one.

I understand where you are coming from here but "anyone can win at no gi" come on man, give people like Eddy Bravo some credit. You may want to rethink that statement a little bit.

Rolling no gi might let you slip out of a sloppy arm bar or a cheap but its more realistic. I can get an arm bar from guard with one hand if the guy has a gi for me to grab. On the other hand, if its no gi, I really have to have total control over his arm to get it or he slips out.

I also don't see many people wearing them in the summers here in the south.