Mayweather Vs. Marquez

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Any opinions?

[vpchill]

Mayweather in 5

[Brown Ninja]

marquez in a stunner!

[Brown Ninja]

actually Floyd should cruise....unfortunately

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Marquez is a strong fighter but Mayweather I think will win...

[Aaron-the-pitbull]

Mayweather is just pure class.

But we all know this is just the "starter" meal, the main course is yet to be served, roll on Mayweather vs The Pac Man !!

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[Aaron-the-pitbull]

Dude, i just got goosebumbs looking at that picture

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They are so gay!

[Biohazard74]

Mayweather is/was a bad ass. Wonder if the time off has had any affect on him. Either way im sure he will take this one..

BTW do you guys remember this?

Before his May 2007 fight with De La Hoya, Mayweather criticized the Ultimate Fighting Championship, stating that any quality boxer could easily become the champion and that, while boxing is an art, UFC was a temporary fad. UFC President Dana White stated that he was willing to organize a fight with then Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk, and the two met with Mayweather at his Las Vegas hotel. Mayweather publicly apologized to UFC and turned down the offer of a fight, saying "I respect MMA fighters and what they do in the UFC. I have no plans of fighting in mixed martial arts.

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^^ lolol... a-hole!

[Brown Ninja]

Sherk would destroy Floyd

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bump!

[icepick27]

mayweather should get past marquez ,no matter what ,cause the only good fight in boxing, left before the sport toaltly sinks ,is mayweather vs pac man ,and even though mayweather is probaly the biggest dooosh bag ,show off ,poor example of a athlete,and one of the greatest boxers in the past 30 years ,iam going to be rooting for him for the first time in my life cause he is from the usa ,and as much as i hate him i have to root for my country

[icepick27]

Mayweather is/was a bad ass. Wonder if the time off has had any affect on him. Either way im sure he will take this one..

BTW do you guys remember this?

Before his May 2007 fight with De La Hoya, Mayweather criticized the Ultimate Fighting Championship, stating that any quality boxer could easily become the champion and that, while boxing is an art, UFC was a temporary fad. UFC President Dana White stated that he was willing to organize a fight with then Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk, and the two met with Mayweather at his Las Vegas hotel. Mayweather publicly apologized to UFC and turned down the offer of a fight, saying "I respect MMA fighters and what they do in the UFC. I have no plans of fighting in mixed martial arts.

the greatest boxer o all time cant beat any mma fighter in the top ten ,not a shot in hell ,the striking is toatlly differnt some one who is sucsesful in boxing wont do shit in mma they would probaly loose in 30 seconds ,now if the take what the know from boxing and learn wrestling bjj,mutai,and the rest of the arts for 5 to ten years maybe they got a shot ,but no boxer can step in the ring only knowing boxing and get out of the first rounD NOT A SHOT IN HELL.......

[Cassano]

mayweather should get past marquez ,no matter what ,cause the only good fight in boxing, left before the sport toaltly sinks ,is mayweather vs pac man ,and even though mayweather is probaly the biggest dooosh bag ,show off ,poor example of a athlete,and one of the greatest boxers in the past 30 years ,iam going to be rooting for him for the first time in my life cause he is from the usa ,and as much as i hate him i have to root for my country

Poor example of an athlete??? Floyd is 1 of the best athletes in boxing. have you watched him train?

[onepunch09]

Mayweather is a hell of a fighter. He will get past Marquez no problem. To bad it will end there. The Pacman will destroy him and his unbeaten career will come to and end. Then he will sit at home counting his money wandering why the hell he didn't just stay retired.

[Brown Ninja]

the greatest boxer o all time cant beat any mma fighter in the top ten ,not a shot in hell ,the striking is toatlly differnt some one who is sucsesful in boxing wont do shit in mma they would probaly loose in 30 seconds ,now if the take what the know from boxing and learn wrestling bjj,mutai,and the rest of the arts for 5 to ten years maybe they got a shot ,but no boxer can step in the ring only knowing boxing and get out of the first rounD NOT A SHOT IN HELL.......

Except Ray Mercer

[graeme87]

Lol exactly a 50 year old badly washed up, fat out of shape ex pro boxer flattened an ex ufc champ in 9 seconds.

Look at chuck liddell, the most successful light heavyweight champ in ufc history. He made his career on striking (you might even go as far as to say a counter right hand and an occasional left hook rather than striking). He had good take down defence but he hardly had to use it and even that can be taught to a boxer in no time.

If you put an elite pro boxer in his prime in the octagon and you will see a serious one sided beating. And 9 time out of 10 I’ll be the boxer dishing it out.

I’ll be realistic if a good grappler or bjj guy gets him to the ground then we’ll see something along the lines of the Kongo vs Velasquez fight but even then Kongo does not have pro boxer skilled striking.

Mayweather would any lightweight in the ufc especially Sean Sherk

[graeme87]

Lol exactly a 50 year old badly washed up, fat out of shape ex pro boxer flattened an ex ufc champ in 9 seconds.

Look at chuck liddell, the most successful light heavyweight champ in ufc history. He made his career on striking (you might even go as far as to say a counter right hand and an occasional left hook rather than striking). He had good take down defence but he hardly had to use it and even that can be taught to a boxer in no time.

If you put an elite pro boxer in his prime in the octagon and you will see a serious one sided beating. And 9 time out of 10 I’ll be the boxer dishing it out.

I’ll be realistic if a good grappler or bjj guy gets him to the ground then we’ll see something along the lines of the Kongo vs Velasquez fight but even then Kongo does not have pro boxer skilled striking.

Mayweather would any lightweight in the ufc especially Sean Sherk

[Hunter]

Lol exactly a 50 year old badly washed up, fat out of shape ex pro boxer flattened an ex ufc champ in 9 seconds.

Look at chuck liddell, the most successful light heavyweight champ in ufc history. He made his career on striking (you might even go as far as to say a counter right hand and an occasional left hook rather than striking). He had good take down defence but he hardly had to use it and even that can be taught to a boxer in no time.

If you put an elite pro boxer in his prime in the octagon and you will see a serious one sided beating. And 9 time out of 10 I’ll be the boxer dishing it out.

I’ll be realistic if a good grappler or bjj guy gets him to the ground then we’ll see something along the lines of the Kongo vs Velasquez fight but even then Kongo does not have pro boxer skilled striking.

Mayweather would any lightweight in the ufc especially Sean Sherk

Mma is not boxing and vice versa. Just so you know mayweather ran his mouth till sherk started talking then he shut up. Your extremely wrong a good boxing in a boxing match would flatten the best mma fighter. In a mma fight the mixed martial artist flattens the boxer. Also you cant teach take down defense in"no time" I wrestled at the college level and you take a boxer and try to teach him to stop one of my takedowns. Your really talking out your ass.

[BgMc31]

Mma is not boxing and vice versa. Just so you know mayweather ran his mouth till sherk started talking then he shut up. Your extremely wrong a good boxing in a boxing match would flatten the best mma fighter. In a mma fight the mixed martial artist flattens the boxer. Also you cant teach take down defense in"no time" I wrestled at the college level and you take a boxer and try to teach him to stop one of my takedowns. Your really talking out your ass.

While I agree with your initial response about boxing and mma aren't the same, I would have to disagree with two points. 1st Mayweather didn't shut up because Sherk challenged him, he digressed on mma after watching some mma guys get down in his gym here in LV (inside information). Mayweather acknowledged and everyone should acknowledge that Sherk walks around a much bigger man than mayweather. Again, it had nothing to do with Sherk talking/challenging Mayweather, but rather Mayweather growing to appreciate mma because of its prevailence here in Las Vegas. 2nd, you are a mma fighter so of course you're going to side with a mma guy. There are many boxers who, like you, were former wrestlers so maybe you could take them down, maybe you couldn't. The fact that a championship boxer is an elite athlete shows that he has the ability to learn and adapt quickly. I don't know your true identity but unless you are also an elite athlete, I highly doubt you would be able to do much damage to an elite fighter, if that fighter was given a bit of take down defense training. Although not a boxer, Cung Le prevented Frank Shamrock from taking him down on a regular basis, so that speaks volumes about what a elite striker can do. Just my .02.

BTW, Mayweather in 8!!! LOL!!!

[Hunter]

While I agree with your initial response about boxing and mma aren't the same, I would have to disagree with two points. 1st Mayweather didn't shut up because Sherk challenged him, he digressed on mma after watching some mma guys get down in his gym here in LV (inside information). Mayweather acknowledged and everyone should acknowledge that Sherk walks around a much bigger man than mayweather. Again, it had nothing to do with Sherk talking/challenging Mayweather, but rather Mayweather growing to appreciate mma because of its prevailence here in Las Vegas. 2nd, you are a mma fighter so of course you're going to side with a mma guy. There are many boxers who, like you, were former wrestlers so maybe you could take them down, maybe you couldn't. The fact that a championship boxer is an elite athlete shows that he has the ability to learn and adapt quickly. I don't know your true identity but unless you are also an elite athlete, I highly doubt you would be able to do much damage to an elite fighter, if that fighter was given a bit of take down defense training. Although not a boxer, Cung Le prevented Frank Shamrock from taking him down on a regular basis, so that speaks volumes about what a elite striker can do. Just my .02.

BTW, Mayweather in 8!!! LOL!!!

I am not saying I am an elite fighter but I am an elite wrestler. I disagreed on the fact that you can learn takedown defense in "no time". I do not disagree on the fact that they are elite athletes and have the ability to learn grappling quickily. I just wish more boxing fans could learn to respect grappling the same way grapplers respect boxers. Also thank you on the insight to the sherk/floyd drama.

[Hunter]

While I agree with your initial response about boxing and mma aren't the same, I would have to disagree with two points. 1st Mayweather didn't shut up because Sherk challenged him, he digressed on mma after watching some mma guys get down in his gym here in LV (inside information). Mayweather acknowledged and everyone should acknowledge that Sherk walks around a much bigger man than mayweather. Again, it had nothing to do with Sherk talking/challenging Mayweather, but rather Mayweather growing to appreciate mma because of its prevailence here in Las Vegas. 2nd, you are a mma fighter so of course you're going to side with a mma guy. There are many boxers who, like you, were former wrestlers so maybe you could take them down, maybe you couldn't. The fact that a championship boxer is an elite athlete shows that he has the ability to learn and adapt quickly. I don't know your true identity but unless you are also an elite athlete, I highly doubt you would be able to do much damage to an elite fighter, if that fighter was given a bit of take down defense training. Although not a boxer, Cung Le prevented Frank Shamrock from taking him down on a regular basis, so that speaks volumes about what a elite striker can do. Just my .02.

BTW, Mayweather in 8!!! LOL!!!

Frank didnt fight for years and it shows people bought into the hype of him coming back. I can also show you examples of elite strikers not fairing well during there cross over such as ludwig or semmy shilt(sp).

[BgMc31]

Frank didnt fight for years and it shows people bought into the hype of him coming back. I can also show you examples of elite strikers not fairing well during there cross over such as ludwig or semmy shilt(sp).

I think the disconnect between you and I is the definition of elite strikers and elite boxers, brotha. I don't feel many elite muay thai or TKD fighters could hang with an elite boxer, but that's just my opinion. The guys you mentioned weren't/aren't elite boxers. By elite boxers, I mean the Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones (in his prime), type boxers.

Question for you brotha, how many boxers have you come across? I ask that because most of the boxers I know respect wrestlers and share a kinship, but to many others, their only frame of reference of mma fighters are the TapOut shirt wearers.

[Hunter]

I think the disconnect between you and I is the definition of elite strikers and elite boxers, brotha. I don't feel many elite muay thai or TKD fighters could hang with an elite boxer, but that's just my opinion. The guys you mentioned weren't/aren't elite boxers. By elite boxers, I mean the Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones (in his prime), type boxers.

Question for you brotha, how many boxers have you come across? I ask that because most of the boxers I know respect wrestlers and share a kinship, but to many others, their only frame of reference of mma fighters are the TapOut shirt wearers.

Semmy S is an elite K1 striker, Hunt was very talented also. I do agree with you boxing being the best striking art. I ran into a few in college, was a large boxing gym in town not producing world champions but good boxers. Most were disrespectful and alot of boxing announcers seem to discredit grapplers as well I believe it was larry merchant who said I doubt matt hughes could do that, well no shit but I forget who was fighting but I doubt they could chain wrestle you get my drift? Ohh by they way I love to see kermit Citron make a cross over to mma.

[BgMc31]

^^^Brotha you took the words out of my mouth. Kermit Cintron has considered crossing over. I would also love to see him do it. He had a pretty good wrestling career. Jeremy Williams has also flirted with mma. I wouldn't take what Larry Merchant said to heart. Strange how someone could be such a renowned boxing analyzer and has never been in a boxing match in his life.

[Hunter]

^^^Brotha you took the words out of my mouth. Kermit Cintron has considered crossing over. I would also love to see him do it. He had a pretty good wrestling career. Jeremy Williams has also flirted with mma. I wouldn't take what Larry Merchant said to heart. Strange how someone could be such a renowned boxing analyzer and has never been in a boxing match in his life.

I think as mma continues to grow we are gonna see more and more elite strikers come into the game. One thing is that most elite k1 etc strikers have shown is they dont like to train the ground game for what ever reason well most college wrestlers coming out love to train stand up simply becouse we where never allowed to punch some one in the face. I hardly take anything Larry M takes to heart lol. Thanks for the debate by they way it was insightful with no flaming which is always nice.

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I will still ko ninja...

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postponed damn!

[WDMF]

Mayweather is just a show bunny. The problem he has is that he calls out other athletes in their sport, but isn't man enough to walk their walk. He does it to generate hype so he can cash in. Just like a female would do for a Sugga Daddy.

At the end of the day...sometimes there is more to life than money and fame.

He should walk or shut up.

[100m champ]

Maywether will pick apart marques eazy with his speed

[BgMc31]

Mayweather is just a show bunny. The problem he has is that he calls out other athletes in their sport, but isn't man enough to walk their walk. He does it to generate hype so he can cash in. Just like a female would do for a Sugga Daddy.

At the end of the day...sometimes there is more to life than money and fame.

He should walk or shut up.

Absolutely ridiculous!!!!

[WDMF]

No offense...he's a great boxer no doubt. He's keep talking smack about MMA guys, but he won't fight them. That's lame. Like the guy in high school who always talks when his friends are around, but as soon as you catch him alone it's a different story.

[BgMc31]

1st of all, go back and read the other posts in this thread about Mayweather and MMA. And how many MMA guys will fight a boxer in a pure boxing match...NONE!!!

Mayweather has MMA guys training at his gym in Vegas. He respects MMA and has come out saying so.

[Hunter]

1st of all, go back and read the other posts in this thread about Mayweather and MMA. And how many MMA guys will fight a boxer in a pure boxing match...NONE!!!

Mayweather has MMA guys training at his gym in Vegas. He respects MMA and has come out saying so.

+1 a boxer has a good chance of hanging with an elite kickboxer in a kickboxing bout in a boxing bout the kickboxer imo would get taken apart. I start by saying that you take mma's best striker and put him in a pure boxing match he would get taken apart the same way a boxer would get taken apart by a high level mma fighter. Two different sports.

[BgMc31]

+1 a boxer has a good chance of hanging with an elite kickboxer in a kickboxing bout in a boxing bout the kickboxer imo would get taken apart. I start by saying that you take mma's best striker and put him in a pure boxing match he would get taken apart the same way a boxer would get taken apart by a high level mma fighter. Two different sports.

great minds, brotha...great minds...!!!!

[WDMF]

1st of all, go back and read the other posts in this thread about Mayweather and MMA. And how many MMA guys will fight a boxer in a pure boxing match...NONE!!!

Mayweather has MMA guys training at his gym in Vegas. He respects MMA and has come out saying so.

The link below is what I mean.

http://mmamania.com/2009/07/17/floyd...-on-his-level/

He says that MMA fighters are not even on his level due to the length of a boxing match. This whole concept is what started the UFC. My style can beat your style.

True that most MMA guys cannot beat a boxer in a pure boxing match, but how many MMA guys do you know get in the spotlight and talk about how boxing is not comparable to MMA?

All I'm saying is that if your man enough to verbally knock another man's walk in life, is that you should walk that walk instead of verbally attacking it.

Don't talk about it, be about it.

[BgMc31]

There are plenty of MMA guys who talk smack about boxers but there are no MMA guys on Mayweather's popularity except for Lesnar and maybe GSP and Couture (I'm talking about overall popularity outside the sport). None of them could hang with Mayweather in a boxing match. The man walks the walk. His money and record speak for itself. I'll try to find the clip but on ESPN, he talked about how after watching MMA guys train at his facility he talked about his respect for MMA and how he was willing to train MMA guys with their standup. This was of course while he was 'retired'.

[WDMF]

I would just love to see Mayweather get into the cage. He's got the money and the training staff to hire the right trainers. I wish he would just do it for the challenge. I'm sure he could get a mil to step into the cage and get down. I listen to the guy talk and there's a part of me who thinks he wants some action.