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    Lesnar vs. Carwin

    I'm suprised none of you have brought this up yet. Any validity to it?


    http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

    I don't know who I would decide on at the moment, but I would LOVE to see Carwin KO him.

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    i hope carwin pummels him.....

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    Im sure everyone who isnt a WWE fan wants to see Lesnar get his face crushed, but as pointed out by that article, if Gonzaga took Carwin down with minimal effort, I dont think Lensar will have much problems either.

    Who knows, its still a sport of timing. Could be anyones match

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    On a side note, I wish Gonzaga could have put in a better effort against Carwin, I really would have liked to watch him and Lesnar.

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    Lesnar will destroy Carwin, Its going to take a very effective striker to beat Lesnar.

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    Gonzaga definitely caught him with a good shot before he went in for that takedown. Both Lesnar and Carwin come from similar amateur wrestling backgrounds. I think Carwin has better hands, and it would be a huge mistake for Brock to try to stand and trade punches with him. Carwin FTW by TKO in the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Lesnar will destroy Carwin, Its going to take a very effective striker to beat Lesnar.

    Lesnar by murder in round one. I don't see how it could go any other way. Carwin can not defend the take down but I think Brock could take a few of Carwin's punches.

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    Gonzaga definitely caught him with a good shot before he went in for that takedown. Both Lesnar and Carwin come from similar amateur wrestling backgrounds. I think Carwin has better hands, and it would be a huge mistake for Brock to try to stand and trade punches with him. Carwin FTW by TKO in the first round.
    That prediction is laughable at best..... No one is going to KO Brock in the first round atleast no one thats on the map at this time.

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    Big WWE fan back in the day, I take it?

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    Carwin is a bad man. I got my money on lesner though.

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    Carwin got rocked, taken down, but was right back up and ended the fight with a punch, a short one at that, after the scramble. I think his wrestling is very solid but not better than Brocks. Its not as if he was dominated by GG on the mat. That said I still see Brock running away with this one

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    lesnar is to big to strong and to fast i'd like to see what his chin is like. and i'm gonna piss alot of people off but wwe and ufc type subjects should never be put in the same thread wwe is like a bad bollywood movie they need more acting classes mma is the real deal.sorry bro's

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    Carwin was very close to getting KTFO against Gonzaga, so I would naturally assume that Lesnar hits harder than Gonzaga. But still Lesnar was D-1 wrestling champ and Carwin was D-2 or something like that. Not close in talent pool if you ask me. But Carwin does have power, so anything could happen but most likely it wont.

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    BTW, if the fighting odds are anywhere reasonable for Lesnar, I am unloading my money on him. And I f-cking can't stand the guy by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That prediction is laughable at best..... No one is going to KO Brock in the first round atleast no one thats on the map at this time.
    Your way off, Mir had him stunned, if he had kept punching instead of a jumping knee Brock would have went down.


    Im not sure about Carwin but I think Gonzaga can take Brock...atleast with a good game plan...

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    Carwin is so overrated he fought a hot and cold GG and now alot of people think he is something special, he isnt. Brock is gonna run away with this fight. The difference between a Div 2 national champ and a Div 1 is night and day 99% of the time. Brock will take him down and pound him out a stoppage in the 3rd or 4th would be my prediction.

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    Carwin is a badass no doubt, saw him destroy Gonzaga... but I just dont thing he has what it takes to beat Brock..I know who could though, Kimbo! yeah right! Kimbo would get his ass handed to him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Carwin is a badass no doubt, saw him destroy Gonzaga... but I just dont thing he has what it takes to beat Brock..I know who could though, Kimbo! yeah right! Kimbo would get his ass handed to him!
    He hardly destroyed nappa there......he was getting tooled and caught nappa with a punch.

    Nappa would beat Carwin 7 of 10 fights. It was easy to see from that fight who the more skilled fighter was.

    He got too confident, got caught with his hands down.

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    Your way off, Mir had him stunned, if he had kept punching instead of a jumping knee Brock would have went down.
    You must have seen a different fight than I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dogg View Post
    He hardly destroyed nappa there......he was getting tooled and caught nappa with a punch.

    Nappa would beat Carwin 7 of 10 fights. It was easy to see from that fight who the more skilled fighter was.

    He got too confident, got caught with his hands down.
    x 2 I didnt want to get into it with him....

    Quote Originally Posted by gunslinger2 View Post
    You must have seen a different fight than I did.
    Watch the fight again, the two of them were up against the fence, Brock was covered up and didnt know what to do...any good striker would have had a good chance to put him away there. He was bent over covering his big head and then dumbass Mir launches his leg into Brocks arms giving him the take down. He got pounded out for it too.

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    great match up both good wrestlers, advantage to Brock because i think he has more expierience in D-1. both decent strikers, with that being said i say Brock by 3rd round knockout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter View Post
    Carwin is so overrated he fought a hot and cold GG and now alot of people think he is something special, he isnt. Brock is gonna run away with this fight. The difference between a Div 2 national champ and a Div 1 is night and day 99% of the time. Brock will take him down and pound him out a stoppage in the 3rd or 4th would be my prediction.
    i agree with you 100% about your perdeiction i feel the same way , carwin is like being really good in highscool wrestling were brock is like being #1 in the world , there wrestling is light years apart ,and i think brock can squeeze this one out if he has a solid game plan and sticks to it . but anytime during this fight that they are on the feet i feel that brock is at a disavantage and if he gets cought with a shot ,its lights out but why no love for carwin ? he is good. i dont know why people insist on hating on ufc fighters, i think he is better then every heavyweight not in the ufc besides fedor , and in my opinion , he is in the top 5 maybe top 3 ,just because the jittbags at wamma , (a bunch of old washed up bitter fighters )that hate the ufc rank all there guys low

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    Quote Originally Posted by icepick27 View Post
    i agree with you 100% about your perdeiction i feel the same way , carwin is like being really good in highscool wrestling were brock is like being #1 in the world , there wrestling is light years apart ,and i think brock can squeeze this one out if he has a solid game plan and sticks to it . but anytime during this fight that they are on the feet i feel that brock is at a disavantage and if he gets cought with a shot ,its lights out but why no love for carwin ? he is good. i dont know why people insist on hating on ufc fighters, i think he is better then every heavyweight not in the ufc besides fedor , and in my opinion , he is in the top 5 maybe top 3 ,just because the jittbags at wamma , (a bunch of old washed up bitter fighters )that hate the ufc rank all there guys low
    I dont hate him just dont jump on hype bandwagons. He beat a hot and cold gonzaga. That is his only decent win. Gonzaga got caught, he was clearly the more skilled fighter. Like another member said he seven out of ten times Gonzaga wins. He knocks out one hot and cold fighter and he becomes top 3? thats just dumb.

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    honestly i wonder where Carwins mindset will be for this fight. if im not mistaken Carwin was supposed to fight Cain any truth to this or did they already fight?? and like mn_fighter i do not hate Carwin i just wonder why beating Gonzaga makes him deserving to fight Brock. But i guess you could of said the same for Brock when he fought Randy either way its gna be a good fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter View Post
    I dont hate him just dont jump on hype bandwagons. He beat a hot and cold gonzaga. That is his only decent win. Gonzaga got caught, he was clearly the more skilled fighter. Like another member said he seven out of ten times Gonzaga wins. He knocks out one hot and cold fighter and he becomes top 3? thats just dumb.

    i think he is top 5 , but you just make him sound bad , gonzaga is more then a hot cold fighter he was on like a 3 or 4 fight win streak , and on his way to another title shot ,when carwin kod him ,gonzoga is just young and made some rookie mistakes , i still think he is really good , .. and for the record brock was supposed to fight fedor ,and carwin was to fight cain , when the fedor thing fell through they need some one good to fill that slot and carwin was the next best thing ,so he may of got a early title shot ,but he still deserves it .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by icepick27 View Post
    i think he is top 5 , but you just make him sound bad , gonzaga is more then a hot cold fighter he was on like a 3 or 4 fight win streak , and on his way to another title shot ,when carwin kod him ,gonzoga is just young and made some rookie mistakes , i still think he is really good , .. and for the record brock was supposed to fight fedor ,and carwin was to fight cain , when the fedor thing fell through they need some one good to fill that slot and carwin was the next best thing ,so he may of got a early title shot ,but he still deserves it .....


    Agreed he does deserve it, i guess we are gonna find out if Carwin is ready to be elite or if Brock wins who's next for him? but it should be interesting to see if Brock can take a good punch and if Carwin can handle Brocks ground and pound. GOOD GOOD FIGHT

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    I think that Brock will put the hurt on. They are similar but Brock is better at everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Ninja View Post
    I think that Brock will put the hurt on. They are similar but Brock is better at everything
    I think brock is the better fighter overall because brock can control the pace of the fight ,and put the fight were every he wants it .he can take it on the ground or stand up he is going to control the pace ,but standing up I think he is at a disavantage ,carwin has better footwork ,and really puts his hips into his punches , at this point brock is all upperbody not saying brock is no slouch standing up ,cause we know if he connects odds are your going down ,but I just think in the stand up department carwin has a slight edge .brock controls the fight and wins a decsion ,and keeps the belt ,..but I won't be shocked if he gets kod early, either way its going to be a banger

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    O and by the way ,what's up brown ninja and mn fighter we haven't argued in a while should I through a **** fedor in there ..only kidding ,actully after all those fights about fedor , I actully like him more
    Because I went backed and rewatched most of his fights ,and he is great even though I still think he has fought c minius fighters the last cuple of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by icepick27 View Post
    I think brock is the better fighter overall because brock can control the pace of the fight ,and put the fight were every he wants it .he can take it on the ground or stand up he is going to control the pace ,but standing up I think he is at a disavantage ,carwin has better footwork ,and really puts his hips into his punches , at this point brock is all upperbody not saying brock is no slouch standing up ,cause we know if he connects odds are your going down ,but I just think in the stand up department carwin has a slight edge .brock controls the fight and wins a decsion ,and keeps the belt ,..but I won't be shocked if he gets kod early, either way its going to be a banger
    yea Brock is no slouch in tha stand up department but i agree ice Carwin should be tha better stand up fighter. but Brock has those humongous lunch box hands (have to watch out for those lol) im still going with Brock by 3rd round knockout.

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    I don't know guys.....once Carwin finally fought a decent fighter in Gonzaga.....he basically got the shit kicked out of him until he caught Gonzaga with that short powerful right.

    I mean Brock has fought a couple of former champions and put all of them away. Except when he got caught by Mir. So I am putting Brock way ahead of Carwin in this one and I still think he has the advantage standing up.

    The main reason I think Dana is giving this fight to Carwin is because Carwin made some remarks about how he hated the way Lesnar acted after beating Mir. And made some comments about his WWE past. So that will make this fight even more marketable.

    BTW, I have Lesnar by KO in the first.

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    iam shure that played a huge part of making the fight happen (carwin talking about lesnar) smart move on his part now he has a shot at the belt

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    Quote Originally Posted by southmadejd View Post
    I don't know guys.....once Carwin finally fought a decent fighter in Gonzaga.....he basically got the shit kicked out of him until he caught Gonzaga with that short powerful right.

    I mean Brock has fought a couple of former champions and put all of them away. Except when he got caught by Mir. So I am putting Brock way ahead of Carwin in this one and I still think he has the advantage standing up.

    The main reason I think Dana is giving this fight to Carwin is because Carwin made some remarks about how he hated the way Lesnar acted after beating Mir. And made some comments about his WWE past. So that will make this fight even more marketable.

    BTW, I have Lesnar by KO in the first.
    dont get it wrong i think brock is going to win but how do you think brock has better stand up ?? i just think carwin looks way lighter on his feet , throws better combos , better jab , nice with angles ,has a great straight right, and his footwork is alot better . brock throws bombs and his main goal is to take you down and smother you on the ground and pound you out

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    Quote Originally Posted by icepick27 View Post
    i think he is top 5 , but you just make him sound bad , gonzaga is more then a hot cold fighter he was on like a 3 or 4 fight win streak , and on his way to another title shot ,when carwin kod him ,gonzoga is just young and made some rookie mistakes , i still think he is really good , .. and for the record brock was supposed to fight fedor ,and carwin was to fight cain , when the fedor thing fell through they need some one good to fill that slot and carwin was the next best thing ,so he may of got a early title shot ,but he still deserves it .....
    No he beat two nobody's. before he got ko'd by carwin.

    His best win is against Crocop who just doesnt give a f*ck anymore. Before that is Carmelo M and fabio sherner and less we forget that moster Kevin jordan. Face it, he got overhyped he has great ability but is overhyped. I have him top 10 still but he doesnt have all these great wins like you seem to think and he doesnt. He got piss pounded by Werdum and Couture.

    You say I hate ufc fighters, I dont I just dont jump on the hype wagon I evalute on talent shown vs the talent they have fought. Gonzaga just like carwin overhyped.
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    I believe brock takes it. He is an incrediable athlete and i hate him with a passion. I still feel that he can deliver more power than most opponents and his wrestling is awesome! Who to beat brock? Well Fedor hands down!!!! I would put any amount of money on Fedor beatin the shit outa of brock!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter View Post
    No he beat two nobody's. before he got ko'd by carwin.

    His best win is against Crocop who just doesnt give a f*ck anymore. Before that is Carmelo M and fabio sherner and less we forget that moster Kevin jordan. Face it, he got overhyped he has great ability but is overhyped. I have him top 10 still but he doesnt have all these great wins like you seem to think and he doesnt. He got piss pounded by Werdum and Couture.

    You say I hate ufc fighters, I dont I just dont jump on the hype wagon I evalute on talent shown vs the talent they have fought. Gonzaga just like carwin overhyped.

    Honestly.....who wins really consistently in the UFC HW class?

    That last person who won a few in a row was Tim Sylvia. Randy had a little run, but it was short lived. The fights have been really unpredictable of late in the HW class.

    Nappa is always considered a hard fight, honestly he just makes poor mistakes. Werdum should not have been dropped from the UFC cause he's a legitimate top 5 HW too. Nappa loosing to him, is nothing to be ashamed of. Werdum has better BJJ than the Nog brothers, probably the best ground game in the HW class.

    Nappa is no slouch on the ground and has devastating striking power, he's a large heavy weight too, I believe he was 260 when he fought carwin.

    Nappa has every tool needed to be a top 10 HW for a long time. He just has to learn to keep his hands up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dogg View Post
    Honestly.....who wins really consistently in the UFC HW class?

    That last person who won a few in a row was Tim Sylvia. Randy had a little run, but it was short lived. The fights have been really unpredictable of late in the HW class.

    Nappa is always considered a hard fight, honestly he just makes poor mistakes. Werdum should not have been dropped from the UFC cause he's a legitimate top 5 HW too. Nappa loosing to him, is nothing to be ashamed of. Werdum has better BJJ than the Nog brothers, probably the best ground game in the HW class.

    Nappa is no slouch on the ground and has devastating striking power, he's a large heavy weight too, I believe he was 260 when he fought carwin.

    Nappa has every tool needed to be a top 10 HW for a long time. He just has to learn to keep his hands up.
    I agree he isnt a slouch. Simply saying he is young and got over hyped the ufc does that and it hurts young up coming fighters. Napao hit the radar and started getting thrown into fights. In the ufc you are better off flying just under the radar getting your experiance and then getting thrown into those big contests i.e Jon fitch.

    I even agreed with you that that GG is better then carwin and got caught. Just saying he is not this world beater yet(Yet is the key word) that the ufc made him out to be and then hyped up him even more to make carwin look better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn_fighter View Post
    No he beat two nobody's. before he got ko'd by carwin.

    His best win is against Crocop who just doesnt give a f*ck anymore. Before that is Carmelo M and fabio sherner and less we forget that moster Kevin jordan. Face it, he got overhyped he has great ability but is overhyped. I have him top 10 still but he doesnt have all these great wins like you seem to think and he doesnt. He got piss pounded by Werdum and Couture.

    You say I hate ufc fighters, I dont I just dont jump on the hype wagon I evalute on talent shown vs the talent they have fought. Gonzaga just like carwin overhyped.
    i agree with you , about fighters being overhyped and i just think gonzonga made some young mistakes ..
    as for carwin (IMO) he did fly under the radar i rember reading about him when he was 6-0 when he was still doing mma part time , and it was under upncomming fighters ,, then he went to 8-0 thats when the ufc signed him since then he has fought a few nobodys and was working his way up the ladder finishing almost all of his opponents in the first round and by killer ground n pound or by sweet one punch knockouts ,then the ufc gave him his first really good fighter and he knocked him out in the first round too ,thats kinda of flying under the radar to me ? so what maybe he did get a shot early ,he deserves it just as much as anyone else , and if you want to talk about OVERHYPED ,i got a few, werdoom and josh barrnet , are soo over hyped ,werdoom was good 5 years ago and barnett wasnt even good 5 years ago when the compition was great over japan he sucked , and in his last 10 fights he is 1 and 2 against top 10 fighters he just started putting away some c minius fighters and every one jumped on him cause they wanted him to fight fedor

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    I don't know much about carwin, because I have seen his fights, but only on youtube.

    but from what I have seen I think brock will win this.. to me carwin looks more like a very strong guy that has just enough skills to taking people down.. but front what i have seen .. and please realize this is a youtube education I don't actually fallow the guy. he doesn't seem to be a good striker, yes he has a great punch when he gets all into it, but he isn't a natural striker. meaning he isn't like some of the other guys that their body just naturally moves with every punch...

    i say a good match but brock in two rounds

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    Carwin should have had couple more big fights before having is shot against Lesner.

    lesner will destroy him

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