Tai's PreComp HELP ME Thread

[taiboxa]

ok heres the agenda
stats are as fallows to this date

5'11 (lil under)
285lbs
14% might be a lil under right now

current cycle
TestE 250mg/E3D
TrenA 660mg/ED
Just finished halo at around 75-100mg ED waiting to get blood work done then will probably start on a small drol run to nerf appetite.
Deca200mg/EQ300mg per week for joints
IGF 100-120mcg ED
GH 4iu ED
no slin this go.. just dont feel like it

i have been training for the strong man but due to some people at my gym who are competitive BB'rs saying PL'rs dont have quality muscle and making fun of my fatness i decided to give this red river october show a go.
i actually competed in it 6yrs ago when i was 19 and got my ass handed to me LOL.

about 6 weeks out i will switch to prop/mast/win might keep tren since it does NOT affect my sleep at all, have practically 0 sides w/ it.

diet is as fallows to the most part w/ few variations here and there

morning after cardio
btw times are not exact im a nomad so i could get up at 5:00 or 11:00

breakfast after cardio
10eggwhites
4eggs
1cup oats

meal 2 usualy 2-3hrs later
orange roughy its a FISH for u tards 8oz
some sort of legume or lentil usally 0.5-1.5cups i like lima beans!
1/2cup green beans or broccoli

meal 3 2hrs before lifting usually
6baby carrots i like em
either 10oz porkchops or 10oz turkey breast
1cup oats or 4-6oz yam

pwo shake
40g Whey 20g Dex

pwo meal 30min after shake
1/2 grapefruit for blood pressure and health purposes
6oz yam
8oz porkchop
2eggs if im giong to go str8 to bed if not ommit this

pre bed meal
salmon 6oz
6 eggwhites
maybe some almonds for fiber?
1glass red whine

im trying to transition from strong man type of resistance training to BB type of regiment and i must say I HATE IT LOL

please any info/critiques would be greatly appreciated

[Death]

Your diet needs refinement for bodybuilding purposes, pre retirement meal, kinds if proteins and carbs specific for leaning up etc. Theres some pretty good examples on this site, try to expand your investigations in these areas for some ideas mate.....

[MrMent1on]

You should lower your Tren to 100mg per day and up your Deca to about 400 to 600 depending on you. personally I go with 600mg. Halo is totally not necessary at this time.. it can be used at the end of the cycle about 2 weeks out of your competition for hardening. anadrol helps with supressing your apetite.
your diet needs to be modified a bit, so remember protein /carbs or protein/fat, never carb/fat together at any time.

[MrMent1on]

Here is a Sample Diet. you will have to modify it for your weight.

Sample Diet:
Note: This is a sample diet for a 200 pound gentleman who is wishing to cut. We can assume his BF to be around 15%. This diet will NOT work for you if those criteria don’t apply to you; however it is easy to customize the below diet to take in account your own statistics. It is the principles that are applicable.. I am not going to post the total amount of calories, only the carb, protein and fat macros for the whole day.


Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein

Workout

Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition

Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

Meal 6:
Shake with Flax

That turns into approximately 300 grams protein, 130 grams Carbs, and 50 grams of fat.

[spywizard]

yea.. you can do this diet for a while, there are alot of carbs in it.. and drop the carrots.. ( i know you like them)

but as you get closer to the comp, you will really need to change what you are eating..

[*Narkissos*]

Will go tru it tonight and get back to tomorrow via PM tomorrow Tai.

Nark

[taiboxa]

You should lower your Tren to 100mg per day and up your Deca to about 400 to 600 depending on you. personally I go with 600mg. Halo is totally not necessary at this time.. it can be used at the end of the cycle about 2 weeks out of your competition for hardening. anadrol helps with supressing your apetite.
your diet needs to be modified a bit, so remember protein /carbs or protein/fat, never carb/fat together at any time.

why should i lower tren and raise deca?
i get like 0 siddes from tren even at 880/ED
the halo was used because i was doing str training previous to the decision to do this comp.

i have read/heard that fats w/ carbs cain aid both in digestion and regulation of blood sugar...

thanks for the help all

[MrMent1on]

why should i lower tren and raise deca ?
i get like 0 siddes from tren even at 880/ED
the halo was used because i was doing str training previous to the decision to do this comp.

i have read/heard that fats w/ carbs cain aid both in digestion and regulation of blood sugar...

thanks for the help all

Bro Tren is one of the strongest AAS it is very liver and kidney toxic causes high blood pressure and growth of the prostate tissue. So with that I personally would not use such high doses of tren.
As for Deca 200mg does not creat water retention, however you stated your usng it for joint pain but why not kill 2 birds with one stone by building some size with it also. doesage over 400mg causes water retention and thats whatactually makes the jionts feel like they are healed, also it is not liver toxic unlike tren.

Fat with Carbs is a big NO! NO! in pre contest diet. I will only make you retain Fat anf not loose much.
I hope that helped. if anyone disagree feel free to comment .

[doctorherb]

that tren dosage is insane...I agree with Ment on the fat/carb issue....Halo is cool the final 7-10 days, but wasted early in contest prep.

[taiboxa]

Bro Tren is one of the strongest AAS it is very liver and kidney toxic causes high blood pressure and growth of the prostate tissue. So with that I personally would not use such high doses of tren.
As for Deca 200mg does not creat water retention, however you stated your usng it for joint pain but why not kill 2 birds with one stone by building some size with it also. doesage over 400mg causes water retention and thats whatactually makes the jionts feel like they are healed, also it is not liver toxic unlike tren.

Fat with Carbs is a big NO! NO! in pre contest diet. I will only make you retain Fat anf not loose much.
I hope that helped. if anyone disagree feel free to comment .

i like it .. sounds good..
as far as tren toxicity.. i get blood work done quite frequently .. and have very lil problems... only things i have issues w/ are cholestrol on tren and liv zymes when i run a strong oral for 7+ weeks..
i have never had elevated liver enzymes from tren even at 300+mg ED but do love the body composition changes.

thanks again for ur feed back

[MrMent1on]

i like it .. sounds good..
as far as tren toxicity.. i get blood work done quite frequently .. and have very lil problems... only things i have issues w/ are cholestrol on tren and liv zymes when i run a strong oral for 7+ weeks..
i have never had elevated liver enzymes from tren even at 300+mg ED but do love the body composition changes.

thanks again for ur feed back

Well Bro as long as you take precaution then its all good, your body can handle that so if its not broke then dont fix it.Check out my 12 week Log if you didnt already maybe something in there might be of help. i'm currently 2 weeks out. 2 weeks out pictures will go up tonight.

[spound]

I can not believe that tren dosage...that is insane!! I DONT CARE WHAT YOUR BLOODWORK LOOKS LIKE! Your inside will turn to ****in mush bro! I am worried for you...that much is jsut not needed...if you think you NEED that much tren, then something else in your regiment is not right bro, jsut lookin out for ya, that scares me.

[taiboxa]

I can not believe that tren dosage...that is insane!! I DONT CARE WHAT YOUR BLOODWORK LOOKS LIKE! Your inside will turn to ****in mush bro! I am worried for you...that much is jsut not needed...if you think you NEED that much tren, then something else in your regiment is not right bro, jsut lookin out for ya, that scares me.

ha, i appreciate your concerns but i have seen higher doses
the one thing im lacking in my regiment is patience..
basically i wanna be a strong man but the way things are giong now days.. if u dont start early u will never make it

[spound]

ha, i appreciate your concerns but i have seen higher doses
the one thing im lacking in my regiment is patience..
basically i wanna be a strong man but the way things are giong now days.. if u dont start early u will never make it

Yea, well good luck with the comp and your strong man endeveors, I wish you the best seriously, but take care of yourself brother.

[Superhuman]

YOU ARE A SMALL PLANET!!! Seriously I had no idea you were that big Tai!

[taiboxa]

YOU ARE A SMALL PLANET!!! Seriously I had no idea you were that big Tai!

yeah well i dont look it but thats what the scales and calipers tell me

[END-RAGE]

do u hav any pics tai?

[taiboxa]

do u hav any pics tai?

none yet.. lol
i have no camera, too poor to buy anything right now unless like.. every member wants to send me like 10 bux to make up for my 500bux i lost w/ my wallet

only pics i got are when i was around 9-10% 230-240 almost 2yrs ago

[MIKE_XXL]

Back off your tren dose and you will have money for Camera, and also you will never become a strong man if your kidneys and liver fail....just because you saw higher doses of tren being used does not make it right...that shiat is insane...XXL

[taiboxa]

Back off your tren dose and you will have money for Camera, and also you will never become a strong man if your kidneys and liver fail....just because you saw higher doses of tren being used does not make it right...that shiat is insane...XXL

aye.. i appreciate your input very much
i am .. im backin down to 330ED and replace the other 300mg tren w/ 300mast ED

i get blood work done very regularly and luckily all organs are up to par w/ 0 issues as of today.

[chest6]

You took a pic of Rhonda's car and you forgot to take a pic of yourself? booo

[taiboxa]

You took a pic of Rhonda's car and you forgot to take a pic of yourself? booo

cop took it and emailed it to her NUMNUTS

[END-RAGE]

tai boxa, not to hyjack your thread but i also wanted to do strongman in the future, and i was wanderin, wat AAS do u recomend for your best srength gains?, sorry for hyjackin but i had to ask

[taiboxa]

tai boxa, not to hyjack your thread but i also wanted to do strongman in the future, and i was wanderin, wat AAS do u recomend for your best srength gains?, sorry for hyjackin but i had to ask

lol its no prob i enjoy strenght training and str based cycles/regiments than i do BB so it is a pleasure to talk about it
firstly
it comes down to training and if u give me a sec i will dig something up for u of wat kinda stuff i do
but as far as cycles go
we will run test/deca as a back bone through out the endurance training phase and when we hit str training phase we will usually throw in tren w/ a dht oral such as win or drol.

[taiboxa]

i usually lift 3x a week IronMan Hit right now then goto WSB then to DC then repeeat but i keep tues/thurs open for functional str training.

tues is an explosive training day
i will sprint up (trudge slowly LOL) a 15yrd 40degree hill w/ a 80kg Log, i will fling/hurl a 50lb medicine ball granny style over me shoulder as high as i can, i will do sumo wresting w/ buddy (THAT SHIT IS HARD) and finish w/ 50yrd sprints... i dont do plyometrics anymore due to me weight.

thurs is usually focused primarily on endurance
this includes a subaru (car/stationwagon) that has a ball hitch that i hook up to my 160$harness and pull 80+yrds as str increases i will pull the emergency brake up 1- 2 clicks to add resistance respectively. i will do a farmers carry of 120lb DB's NO WRAPS for as far as i can w/ largest possible strides, i will flip a tracter tire (has weighted cables attatched to the inside so the weight is tripple that of a normal tractor tire-this is due to the fact i kan not afford a 800$ bulldozer tire the pro's use) approx 10 times rest repeat.. takes FOR EVER!!! and if it rains the night before.. well life just sucks then, doesnt it, next i have 2 weighted chains each weighs approx 100lbs i will grab them and drag them as i walk backwards doing intervals of 100yrds this is great for grip str and lower back conditioning- then i will finish w/ jumprope w/ 3minute intervals w/ 1minute rest w/ 5-10sets.

weekends i do yoga/pilates... u may laff but i gurantee i have one of the strongest cores on this forum and a strong core is essential for the log press.

btw im trying to get some pics taken of me diong strong man training hopefully i will get those up .. after this october show

[Superhuman]

wow, the strongman training actually sounds like fun.

[taiboxa]

wow, the strongman training actually sounds like fun.

ITS GREAT if u love injuries and aching joints! lol

[*Narkissos*]

Ygpm