Who here uses MILK in their Protein Shakes?

**ShnouzedUp** · 09-27-2005, 02:11 AM

Hey guys! just had a little question. I was wondering how many of you use milk in your protein shakes... and if you do what kind of milk... of you do not use milk, why not?

I'm a 5'8'' 173 ectomorph with an extremely high metabolism..
I take 3 shakes a day with 2 scoops whey, 10oz milk, and 2 scoops ice cream. Am I a moron? or will this help me out?

Cheers!
g

**IBdmfkr** · 09-27-2005, 02:15 AM

Leave out the ice cream, Use skim milk. Eat more calories and don't rely on shakes for the bulk of your daily calorie consumption. Goodluck.

**bignatt** · 09-27-2005, 02:19 AM

I dont use milk ive read some pretty nasty articles about it.....i mean think about it your dirnking from a cows utter i mean i know it tastes good but....

**IBdmfkr** · 09-27-2005, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by bignatt

I dont use milk ive read some pretty nasty articles about it.....i mean think about it your dirnking from a cows utter i mean i know it tastes good but....

I only drink organic milk, most of the nasty stories are from the regular pasterized (puss)milk.

**bignatt** · 09-27-2005, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I only drink organic milk, most of the nasty stories are from the regular pasterized (puss)milk.

haha your right....you whore

**Chemical King** · 09-27-2005, 03:54 AM

i use water in all of my shakes but normaly at oats, and maybe a bananna

**MuckDog** · 09-27-2005, 04:03 AM

i just use water and water only. shakes taste fine. and its not like i sip them so....the 8 oz shakes go down easily...

**S.P.G** · 09-27-2005, 06:50 AM

water only for me.............

**G-Force** · 09-27-2005, 07:15 AM

i sometimes make mine half water half skimmed milk and throw a few spoon fulls of non fat bio yoghurt in for my PWO shake and a spoonful or two of honey (along with my whey / dex of course

**Dave321** · 09-27-2005, 07:47 AM

I use half milk, and the rest ice... milk makes me grow, growing makes justin happy.

**IBdmfkr** · 09-27-2005, 11:45 AM

If my source has it I obtain Breast milk for the nutritional value... MMMMM mmmm, taste so good.

**SoulCard** · 09-27-2005, 11:46 AM

i use skim milk at home...water at the office if i have one...i love milk!

**spywizard** · 09-27-2005, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by ShnouzedUp

Hey guys! just had a little question. I was wondering how many of you use milk in your protein shakes... and if you do what kind of milk... of you do not use milk, why not?

I'm a 5'8'' 173 ectomorph with an extremely high metabolism..
I take 3 shakes a day with 2 scoops whey, 10oz milk, and 2 scoops ice cream. Am I a moron? or will this help me out?

Cheers!
g

help you out to do what"""????

what is your goal in consuming all that lactose??

no, it's not a good idea..

**ShnouzedUp** · 09-27-2005, 01:30 PM

hey you coulda just said i was an idiot.. lol...

by the way i keep my cals between 3700-4200 a day....

i'm really tryin to bulk right now, so the milk and and ice cream was just a question if it would help bulk more or not.

but flame away, won't hurt my feelings...

later...

**MASTERDBOL** · 09-27-2005, 01:36 PM

i have always used 1% milk. and i've used ice cream. if your bulking....who cares. as long as your not replacing food meals with the shakes. the shakes should be pwo, before bed, and just in addition to your normal diet. if you have fast metabolism....eat away bro. the shakes arent going to hurt you, nor is the milk as long as youre not lactose intolerant. i'm not, and i consume almost a gallon per day (3/4 of a gallon anyway). gotta get the calories in for what your goal is. and shakes are a great supplement.

**spywizard** · 09-27-2005, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by ShnouzedUp

hey you coulda just said i was an idiot.. lol...

by the way i keep my cals between 3700-4200 a day....

i'm really tryin to bulk right now, so the milk and and ice cream was just a question if it would help bulk more or not.

but flame away, won't hurt my feelings...

later...

Bulking.. ahhhhhhhh..

now we can work with that..

there are 2 schools of thought..

1. just eat more.. but eat clean

2. eat everything you want, cause you will be running a cutter later

I like 1 because there is less fat to lose.. and the body responds with more muscle.. but hey.. that's me..

oh, and i don't like looking like a dough boy...

**ShnouzedUp** · 09-27-2005, 02:04 PM

i got a free tub of this weight gainer called Russian Bear 5000.... anyone heard of this? Or tried it? I would try it, but damn for some reason i just see me in class not being able to make it out of the room to the shitter and having to grab the trash can or something, like the guy from Van Wilder.

**ShnouzedUp** · 09-27-2005, 02:06 PM

oh yea, it says it has 5000 calories per serving in it.... and 0 fat

***Giantz11*** · 09-27-2005, 02:09 PM

5,000 cals per serving, Wow! And no fat? You sure about that, I don't even think you could drink that much if it was pure sugar.

**305GUY** · 09-27-2005, 02:14 PM

Russian Bear 5000

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 5 SCOOPS
Servings Per Container: 4

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 2600 N/A*

Protein 184 Gm N/A*

Carbohydrates 391 Gm N/A*

Medium Chain Triglycerides 46 Gm N/A*

Fat 0 Gm N/A*

Beta Carotene 2300 IU 460%
Vitamin D 460 IU 115%
Vitamin C 138 Mg 138%
Natural Vitamin E 69 IU 230%
Vitamin B-1 4 Mg 230%
Vitamin B-2 5 Mg 230%
Vitamin B-6 5 Mg 230%
Vitamin B-12 14 Mcg 230%
Niacin 46 Mg 230%
Pantothenic Acid 23 Mg 230%
Folic Acid 920 Mg 230%
Biotin 690 Mg 230%
Paba 23 Mg N/A*
Choline 460 Mg N/A*
Inositol 460 Mg N/A*
Calcium 1150 Mg 115%
Magnesium 460 Mg 115%
Phosphorus 805 Mg 115%
Iodine 35 Mg 23%
Potassium 1265 Mg N/A*
Zinc 17 Mg 115%
Copper 5 Mg 115%
Chromium 200 Mcg N/A*
Molybdenum 69 Mcg N/A*
Selenium 115 Mcg N/A*
Manganese 5 Mg N/A*

* Daily value not established

Other Ingredients:
Three stage carbohydrate mix (glucose polymers) containing complex, medium chain and simple carbohydrates, pharmaceutical grade protein blend consisting of non-fat milk solids and hydrolyzed egg white (albumin), medium chain triglycerides, vitamin, mineral, and liptropic mixture (which includes kreb''s cycle complexes) yohimbe bark, eleutherococcus, crystalline fructose, sikadeer antler powder, schizandra chinensis, inosine HXR, colostrum, boron, chromium picolinate.

Soviet & USA anabolic profile per serving: Yohimbe bark 1500 MG, sikadeer antler powder 500 MG, schizandra chinesis 500 MG, eleutherococcus 1000 MG, inosine HXR 500 MG, colostrum 400 MG, boron 3 MCG, chromium picolinate 200 MCG.

Typical amino acid profile per serving in water:
L-isoleucine 10540 MG, L-arginine 7135 MG, L-leucine 14467 MG, L-aspartic acid 4112 MG, L-lysine 14352MG, L-cystine 5957 MG, L-methionine 5023 MG, L-glutamic acid 38124 MG, L-phenylalanine 9232 MG, L-glycine 7148 MG, L-threonine 8427 MG, L-tryptophane 2180 MG, L-histidine 4766 MG, L-tyrosine 11904 MG, L-proline 11720 MG, L-valine 12512 MG, L-serine 6725 MG, alanine 1013 MG.

Directions:
As a dietary food supplement mix one serving together with one gallon of whole milk and drink throughout the day. Small drinks are preferable and can be spread out over one to four days. Drink whenever you choose including 30 minutes before bedtime. You will find Russian Bear 5000 Weight Gainer to taste great, if water is prefered instead of milk. You may also mix in a blender with ice for a delicious frosty milkshake.

***Giantz11*** · 09-27-2005, 02:26 PM

I see, well its 2,600 cals per serving and yes it does have fat 46g of fat. However its in the form of MCT's which are treated more like carbs upon digestion. Since you are an extreme Ecto and have a really hard time gaining weight I'd say you can use this, drink it with Skim not regular. I'd drop the Ice Cream too, I know you have a hard time gaining but Ice Cream is shit and bad for you.

**MatrixGuy** · 09-27-2005, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

I use half milk, and the rest ice... milk makes me grow, growing makes justin happy.

LMAO. How gay does that sound brotha! Growing makes Justin a happy bunny

**xtinaunasty** · 09-27-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

yes it does have fat 46g of fat. However its in the form of MCT's which are treated more like carbs upon digestion.

Really? So would you count the MCT's in your daily fat count? or towards the carbs? wouldn't the f**k up the calorie count?

**Gassy** · 09-27-2005, 06:45 PM

If you can digest milk well and it doesn't give you a lot of mucus in your sinuses, I don't see a problem with it. Many point out the sugar in milk, but milk has a glycemic index in the 30's, lower than most traditional bodybuilding carbs. Can anyone explain with a GI that low, how a few cups a day will make you fat?

**SMYL_GR8** · 09-27-2005, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

If my source has it I obtain Breast milk for the nutritional value... MMMMM mmmm, taste so good.

Oh and pasteurized milk-->Bad stuff. Haven't bought a gallon in 2 years or so.

***Giantz11*** · 09-27-2005, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

Really? So would you count the MCT's in your daily fat count? or towards the carbs? wouldn't the f**k up the calorie count?

Yes you still count them in your fat count but they are processed much like carbs because of their chain length. Hence MCT (Medium Chained Triglyceride). Virgin Coconut Oil is a good souce about 50% MCT's, 100% MCT Oil is also sold.

**ShnouzedUp** · 09-27-2005, 10:06 PM

Well i dunno.... you consider 5'8'' 173 extreme ecto? it is hard to keep the weight up though... and i'm consumin 3700-4200 calories clean..

**chest6** · 09-27-2005, 11:28 PM

I do it man. Im cutting now and I have switched to water.

**ShnouzedUp** · 09-28-2005, 02:16 AM

stay with milk?

**G-Force** · 09-28-2005, 03:19 AM

there is nothing wrong with milk

**xtinaunasty** · 09-28-2005, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

there is nothing wrong with milk

whats your reasoning behind this? im not saying i dont agree with you, i would seriously like to know why you think so...?

***Giantz11*** · 09-28-2005, 10:56 AM

What do you think is wrong with milk?

**xtinaunasty** · 09-28-2005, 10:59 AM

too much sugar...and when i have dairy i notice i hang on to belly fat. dont know why though.

***Giantz11*** · 09-28-2005, 11:03 AM

The sugar is fine if you are using it as a Pro/Carb meal. It may make you bloat a bit but any correlation to belly fat would be from excess cals.

**xtinaunasty** · 09-28-2005, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

It may make you bloat a bit

maybe that's what it was...cuz almost as soon as i cut out all the dairy i noticed i wasn't retaining as much water. thanks for the info!

***Giantz11*** · 09-28-2005, 11:11 AM

You could always try a bit of digestive enzymes like Lactaid, this probably would stop the bloat. Most people bloat from milk because they have a slight case of Lacrose intolerance. Lactose is a tough sugar to digest, so many are intolerant.

**G-Force** · 09-28-2005, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

whats your reasoning behind this? im not saying i dont agree with you, i would seriously like to know why you think so...?

i see giantz has already answered this for me

i used to be anti milk myslef
it was giantz who changed my opinion in a thread not so long ago

i never realised the sugars in milk had such a low GI

**xtinaunasty** · 09-28-2005, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

You could always try a bit of digestive enzymes like Lactaid, this probably would stop the bloat. Most people bloat from milk because they have a slight case of Lacrose intolerance. Lactose is a tough sugar to digest, so many are intolerant.

I'll try it...thanks!