Interesting Questionb

**speedtraining** · 04-14-2006, 03:59 PM

Say that you eat clean for the whole day then around night you have a binge on ice cream,eggs with yoke, porkroll, and some of those gold fish. which add up to about 700-800 calories, now your body goes to store all that as fat..When you wake up the next morning maybe 6-8 hours later and do cardio on a empty stomach and burn a 1000 cals did you reverse the harm of eating that food or no. thanks fellas.

Speed.

**dbstyles** · 04-14-2006, 04:22 PM

I don't think your body works on a one-to-one ratio as that.

**soccer#3** · 04-14-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by dbstyles

I don't think your body works on a one-to-one ratio as that.

agree wit him

**bcap** · 04-14-2006, 06:14 PM

I 3rd that. All the cals you eat at night wouldn't be storeed as fat anyway. I wouldn't sugest this.

**MarkyMark** · 04-14-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

Say that you eat clean for the whole day then around night you have a binge on ice cream,eggs with yoke, porkroll, and some of those gold fish. which add up to about 700-800 calories, now your body goes to store all that as fat..When you wake up the next morning maybe 6-8 hours later and do cardio on a empty stomach and burn a 1000 cals did you reverse the harm of eating that food or no. thanks fellas.

Speed.

Based on your question ... Are you just trying to sabotage your progress? Bingeing just to try and work it off the next morning? If so .. Your right on track with all the other people you see in the gym year after year that never seem to make any progress...

**Myka** · 04-14-2006, 06:27 PM

how are you going to burn 1000 cals in one cardio session

...say good bye to muscle

**MarkyMark** · 04-14-2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by NewKid

how are you going to burn 1000 cals in one cardio session

...say good bye to muscle

I think some of these machines are out of whack... My cousin keeps telling me that he burns 650 calories in 35 minutes.. I just laugh ...

Wow... Let the eating begin...

**bcap** · 04-14-2006, 06:40 PM

LOL Yeah I agree here. People fail on their diets/workout regimines because they say "oh well I can eat this meal full of complete ass because i will workout later and it'll all be even".

**speedtraining** · 04-14-2006, 07:04 PM

It was just a question i did it once and that was last night, if your going to say i'm not going to make progress post your pics up bro i'm 6'1 255 at 9% bf, last night i had a horrible cheating binge and was wondering if my morning cardio burnt those bad cals off thats all.

**bcap** · 04-14-2006, 07:12 PM

Bro my pics are posted go check on the 12 week transformation diet. I'm not saying its horrible that you did this i'm saying that the general thought of people who don't knwo what theyre talking about is just that they can eat what they want then workout and its all good again. Big deal - you had a splurge, just don't do it again

**mwolffey** · 04-14-2006, 09:41 PM

lee priest and his former wife bonnie, ate a whole cheesecake on regular occations and did tons of cardio the next day to reverse it all...the just split up the sessions

**bombguy** · 04-14-2006, 11:11 PM

Bro I'm there with you...today, the day after I finally get my diet where it should be, I couldn't resist a delicious bowl of Mini-Spooners. I fell off the wagon, but it's not like this is an everyday thing. It'll happen!

**speedtraining** · 04-15-2006, 01:48 AM

yeah its not a easy journey bulking is alot more fun..

**thegeneral** · 04-15-2006, 06:01 AM

im in the same boat as you bro.

had my first weeks weigh in for my cutting diet and was 4.6 lb under... decided to celebrate that and my birthday by drinking/eating a ton of unhealthy shit/lots of sugar. its incredible how addictive sugar is when you havnt had much for a few weeks. makes ur body feel like hell but u still crave it.

now its time to get back on track. i know how ya feel.... i wish i could just do 3000 calories of cardio and be even.

**MarkyMark** · 04-15-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

It was just a question i did it once and that was last night, if your going to say i'm not going to make progress post your pics up bro i'm 6'1 255 at 9% bf, last night i had a horrible cheating binge and was wondering if my morning cardio burnt those bad cals off thats all.

Wouldn't that be a cheat day question... based on your knowledge I would have understood you better if it wasnt asked in the way you posted ...

**Steve80** · 04-15-2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

Say that you eat clean for the whole day then around night you have a binge on ice cream,eggs with yoke, porkroll, and some of those gold fish. which add up to about 700-800 calories, now your body goes to store all that as fat..When you wake up the next morning maybe 6-8 hours later and do cardio on a empty stomach and burn a 1000 cals did you reverse the harm of eating that food or no. thanks fellas.

Speed.

The vomiting after eating that horrible mix of crap should take care of the calories lol
Seriously though...Ice cream with eggs, porkroll, and gold fish crackers. how the hell could you stomach that mix!!!???!!!

**speedtraining** · 04-15-2006, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Wouldn't that be a cheat day question... based on your knowledge I would have understood you better if it wasnt asked in the way you posted ...

i guess you can call it what you want but i what I want to know is if you eat 800 or so cals then burn 1000 the next morning during cardio did you burn them cals off..

**MarkyMark** · 04-15-2006, 04:35 PM

Based on your posted stats I would expect you know this already...

**SwoleCat** · 04-15-2006, 10:27 PM

If you load up on shit before bed or in the middle of the night, you can bet most if not all will be stored as fat.

Doing cardio the next morning does not assure you that you reverse that damage, no, not at all. What's to say you don't cardio off glycogen and lean muscle instead of fat? There is no way to make SURE that the cardio cancels out the gorging of shit food in the middle of the night.

Nope.

~SC~

**SwoleCat** · 04-15-2006, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by mwolffey

lee priest and his former wife bonnie, ate a whole cheesecake on regular occations and did tons of cardio the next day to reverse it all...the just split up the sessions

Yeah, and their success has nothing to do with drugs, GH, T-3, IGF1, clen , etc. either right?

~SC~

**speedtraining** · 04-16-2006, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

If you load up on shit before bed or in the middle of the night, you can bet most if not all will be stored as fat.

Doing cardio the next morning does not assure you that you reverse that damage, no, not at all. What's to say you don't cardio off glycogen and lean muscle instead of fat? There is no way to make SURE that the cardio cancels out the gorging of shit food in the middle of the night.

Nope.

~SC~

what if you decide you need another meal and you eat salmon before bed is that so harsh, or should there really be a cut off time?

**speedtraining** · 04-16-2006, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Based on your posted stats I would expect you know this already...

sorry i didn't live up to your expectations..

**speedtraining** · 04-16-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Steve80

The vomiting after eating that horrible mix of crap should take care of the calories lol
Seriously though...Ice cream with eggs, porkroll, and gold fish crackers. how the hell could you stomach that mix!!!???!!!

i don't know but it tasted so good.

**MarkyMark** · 04-16-2006, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

sorry i didn't live up to your expectations..

Well if your at 9% BF .... and you didnt plan on making this a habit .. what was your point in asking the question...? Thats where you lost me brother ....
We all should have a cheat meal once a week .. as I have advocated with many others here ...

**speedtraining** · 04-17-2006, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Well if your at 9% BF .... and you didnt plan on making this a habit .. what was your point in asking the question...? Thats where you lost me brother ....
We all should have a cheat meal once a week .. as I have advocated with many others here ...

its basically the same point for all questions to attain knowledge and understand it, if you want to help i posted a question a few posts up.

**MarkyMark** · 04-17-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

what if you decide you need another meal and you eat salmon before bed is that so harsh, or should there really be a cut off time?

Hmm ...Yes I think you should have a cut off time .. you sure dont want to be staying up early morning snacking... sleep is crucial to muscle repair, so a schedule is important...
I am a firm believer in a set amount of calories and meals... So if I am bulking and my intake is around 4800 calories at any given point I would try and break that in 6 meals at 800 calories each or as close as I can... meal times would need to be stretched out enough for digestion so my meals would be like this...
730, 1000, 1230, 300, 7, 930 and that is if I train around 5 pm ... I have to schedule my diet around that if need be ... I really like training early morning cutting or bulking... because that just works better for me..

Keep up the great work Speed ... and good luck ...

Markymark

**steve0** · 04-17-2006, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

If you load up on shit before bed or in the middle of the night, you can bet most if not all will be stored as fat.

Doing cardio the next morning does not assure you that you reverse that damage, no, not at all. What's to say you don't cardio off glycogen and lean muscle instead of fat? There is no way to make SURE that the cardio cancels out the gorging of shit food in the middle of the night.

Nope.

~SC~

Yes i agree, but does it not matter if you havnt cheated in say 30-40 days and then have a big cheat day, with all the crap food you could imagine going down the pipes ??? besides being majorly bloted and holding water like a pregnant woman what other side effects whould there be to the body no to mention a good shock for the system.

**steve0** · 04-17-2006, 07:35 PM

speedtraining, your body will have have a very slow relese of calories through out the night there is no need to eat again if you can with stand it.

**SwoleCat** · 04-17-2006, 07:36 PM

Having a cheat day is fine, yes, but shoveling in 1000's of calories late night and trying to nullify effects from that is another idea entirely.

~SC~