cutting diet

**stunner5000pt** · 07-12-2006, 06:15 PM

here is my cutting diet. could you suggest changes/improvements for it

i am 5' 8" 195 lbs bodyfat in the high teens (yes i am a fatass )
wake up
1 scoop whey in water
cardio

meal 1
50g oats, 250 mL egg whites, 1 scoop whey in water

meal 2
100 g tuna, 1 scoop whey in water + 2 tbsp flax seed oil

workout
PWO shake
2 scoops dextrose + 2 scoops whey in water

meal 3 PWO meal
2 chicken breasts, 2 slices of whole wheat bread

meal 4
100 g tuna
100g almonds

meal 5
1 chicken breast/xtra lean ground beef

meal 6
1 scoop whey in water + 2 tbsp flax seed oil
100g peanuts

meal 7 (just before bed)
1 scoop casein + 1 scoop whey in water

that comes to around 100 g carbs, 100 g fats and around 300 g protein
is this good?

Any help would be appreciated

**novastepp** · 07-12-2006, 06:45 PM

so that's 2800 cals, and IMO that might be high. i would say try going around 2200-2400 for 3 weeks and see whats up.

i would say drop teh whey before your cardio. your body is going to use that as fuel instead of fat. if you are going at a moderate level (60-70% MHR) you should be alright in terms of saving muscle.

make either meal 6 or 7 whole food. i think taht would help you stay out of the fasted state at night. the casein and flax shake before bed would be fine, maybe make meal 6 whole foods. maybe some natty peanut butter with a protein source.

i am not an advocta eof breads whle cutting. so my opinion would be drop teh whole wheat bread PPWO for a different carb source. you tried sweet potatoes? they worked wonders for me

again, stated many times here, you know what carbs work for you, so use them. these are just some things i would do in your shoes. i like different things, and different things work for different people. if you can cut with what i would call high cals, keep it up. if not i would say drop them by at least 400 right now. in any case... good luck bro

**stunner5000pt** · 07-12-2006, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

so that's 2800 cals, and IMO that might be high. i would say try going around 2200-2400 for 3 weeks and see whats up.

i would say drop teh whey before your cardio. your body is going to use that as fuel instead of fat. if you are going at a moderate level (60-70% MHR) you should be alright in terms of saving muscle.

make either meal 6 or 7 whole food. i think taht would help you stay out of the fasted state at night. the casein and flax shake before bed would be fine, maybe make meal 6 whole foods. maybe some natty peanut butter with a protein source.

i am not an advocta eof breads whle cutting. so my opinion would be drop teh whole wheat bread PPWO for a different carb source. you tried sweet potatoes? they worked wonders for me

again, stated many times here, you know what carbs work for you, so use them. these are just some things i would do in your shoes. i like different things, and different things work for different people. if you can cut with what i would call high cals, keep it up. if not i would say drop them by at least 400 right now. in any case... good luck bro

sweet potato.... will just regular potatoes be a suitable substitute if i couldnt get them? Im sur i could though...

why no breads??

this is my first time cutting so your help is greatly appreciated !!

**novastepp** · 07-12-2006, 07:18 PM

breads just don't work for me man. if you can pull it off, good. but the gluten in breads bloats me a lot. sometimes pasta will do it too, but generally i stick to sweet potatoes, and oats when cutting. more sweet potato than oats too. cutters are very bland IMO, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

regular potato is good, but sweet potato is better. a yam is the same as a sweet potato if that was the question of concern.

**copenhagen** · 07-12-2006, 07:21 PM

heres what i would do bro,

Originally Posted by stunner5000pt

here is my cutting diet. could you suggest changes/improvements for it

i am 5' 8" 195 lbs bodyfat in the high teens (yes i am a fatass )
wake up
1 scoop whey in water
cardio

meal 1
50g oats, 250 mL egg whites

meal 2
100 g tuna, 1 tbs light mayo,1/2 cup brown rice

workout
PWO shake
2 scoops dextrose + 2 scoops whey in water

meal 3 PWO meal
1 chicken breast 1 medium sweet potato

meal 4
100 g tuna
100g almonds
1 cup veggies

meal 5
1 chicken breast/1 cup veggies

meal 6[/B]
1 chicken breast + 1 tbsp flax seed oil, 1/2 cup veggies

meal 7 (just before bed)
1 scoop casein + 1 scoop whey in water

that comes to around 100 g carbs, 100 g fats and around 300 g protein
is this good?

Any help would be appreciated

good luck

**JohnboyF** · 07-12-2006, 07:28 PM

I agree with Nova bread is crap for me personally when cutting even when if its whole wheat. its just to processed.

Why dont you do cardio before the whey shake?
I also think you have to many shakes as well 4 shakes i counted. But otherwise stunner its not bad. Some minor tweaks and u should be okay to go.

**stunner5000pt** · 07-12-2006, 07:37 PM

ok ill tkae out hte whey riught before hte cardio

do you guys agree with copenhagen's alternations?

cardio

meal 1
50g oats, 250 mL egg whites

meal 2
100 g tuna, 1 tbs light mayo,1/2 cup brown rice

workout
PWO shake
2 scoops dextrose + 2 scoops whey in water

meal 3 PWO meal
1 chicken breast 1 medium sweet potato

[B}meal 4[/B]
100 g tuna
100g almonds
1 cup veggies

meal 5
1 chicken breast/1 cup veggies

meal 6
1 chicken breast + 1 tbsp flax seed oil, 1/2 cup veggies

[b]meal 7 (just before bed) [b]
1 scoop casein + 1 scoop whey in water

although i think theres not enuf protein in the breakfast time.. maybe 500 mL of egg whites then?

**novastepp** · 07-12-2006, 07:49 PM

veggies are a must yes. good call there. if light mayo is fat free may, then its ok. i personally would do without it and take some sugarfree orange flavored metamucil to get the tuna down. yes, do the 500ml of egg whites. i had troube with the conversion of egg whites in ml but i'd go for 9-12. liquid, well then yes 500ml will do i suppose. meal 5 you could make carb or fat. i think its looking good.

**stunner5000pt** · 07-12-2006, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

veggies are a must yes. good call there. if light mayo is fat free may, then its ok. i personally would do without it and take some sugarfree orange flavored metamucil to get the tuna down. yes, do the 500ml of egg whites. i had troube with the conversion of egg whites in ml but i'd go for 9-12. liquid, well then yes 500ml will do i suppose. meal 5 you could make carb or fat. i think its looking good.

thbats awesome

i m not really sure how many egg whites 250 mL is... i wonder