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    whats worse

    how important is meal for breakfast before working out. Because i find i can eat like two slices of bread 50 carbs and about 7 protein right when i wake up then go work out better then having to wake up and have a whole meal or shake and having to weight the hour to hour and a half when i am already waking up early for work

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    I dont know what the best answer is (perhaps the other bros can chime in) BUT i will go by my gut instinct

    2 slices of bread is fine to me... you are repleneshing your blood sugar level and halting your catabolism before you work out..obviously anything you burn will be the energy from the bread you eat so there should be no significant degree of muscle catabolism

    Here's just a few suggestions I have:

    - consume a casein shake or slow protein release food (cottage cheese, etc...) right before bed...so you dont wake up completely malnourished
    - Have 10-20g of glutamine (in water) with your bread
    - Carry a shake and drink it between your sets....I'm sure alot of bros are gonna disagree with this one

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    If you only eat two slices of bread and thats enough for your workout then you REALLY need to rethink your workout routine. I can't image giving your all on two slices of bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    If you only eat two slices of bread and thats enough for your workout then you REALLY need to rethink your workout routine. I can't image giving your all on two slices of bread.
    Oh REALLY NOW???

    That has nothing to do with intensity of workouts, some people can put out 100% 1st thing in the morning and some people have to.

    If you can do my workout better, or just keep up with me....Ill do things ur way from now on.....

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    Let me get this straight, so your saying you pre-workout meal doesn't really matter ? Because that was my point. How can you expect to get a killer workout when you only eat 2 slices of bread

    To me this is unheard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    Let me get this straight, so your saying you pre-workout meal doesn't really matter ? Because that was my point. How can you expect to get a killer workout when you only eat 2 slices of bread

    To me this is unheard of.
    I said some not all, to me, NO it doesnt matter one bit, I actually do better without it.

    I have a gatorade during the workout sometimes to rehydrate.

    Even when I was a bodybuilder Id workout 1st thing in the morning at times and lifted the same weights I did when I trained after a meal and made improvements and now Id say my workouts are way harder and I still finish em and improve.

    It all depends on the individual, like I said...some not all.

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    Like IFX said, some do some don't need a preworkout meal.
    Some do better eating pro/fat opposed to pro/carb preworkout.
    Me personally I need more than 1 MEAL to get anywhere in my workout.

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    See scrapakilla..what you just did

    opened up a can of worms

    but seriously, if 2 slices works for you, then why fix it if it aint broke! Ideally, a proper PWO meal would be best but since you dont want to wait around in the morning, it is understandable

    Be sure to adjust your daily macros accordingly

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    I said some not all, to me, NO it doesnt matter one bit, I actually do better without it.

    I have a gatorade during the workout sometimes to rehydrate.

    Even when I was a bodybuilder Id workout 1st thing in the morning at times and lifted the same weights I did when I trained after a meal and made improvements and now Id say my workouts are way harder and I still finish em and improve.

    It all depends on the individual, like I said...some not all.
    I call Bull Sh*t. No pre workout meal? were are you getting your energy from

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    Quote Originally Posted by suckysucky
    I call Bull Sh*t. No pre workout meal? were are you getting your energy from

    hey bro, your question has been asked and answered in the dialogue above...you're just begging to get into an argument...I suggest to stay out of this one

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    I said some not all, to me, NO it doesnt matter one bit, I actually do better without it.

    I have a gatorade during the workout sometimes to rehydrate.

    Even when I was a bodybuilder Id workout 1st thing in the morning at times and lifted the same weights I did when I trained after a meal and made improvements and now Id say my workouts are way harder and I still finish em and improve.

    It all depends on the individual, like I said...some not all.
    What show did you do?

    You claim you lifted the "same weight", well there was your problem, there is something called progressive overload where you lift more weight or do more reps Every time back in the gym.. obviously you were not gaining strength which equates to size, so I'd say whatever you were doing wasn't working to well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I**mfkr
    What show did you do?

    You claim you lifted the "same weight", well there was your problem, there is something called progressive overload where you lift more weight or do more reps Every time back in the gym.. obviously you were not gaining strength which equates to size, so I'd say whatever you were doing wasn't working to well.

    Just an observation.
    LOL

    No show bro, I was just a bodybuilder, not anywhere near professional my only comp was a local powerlifting comp when I was 17 thats it I even lost my worthless bronze medal in a cab.... ........


    I mean lifted the same weights I was when I was working out after food.

    AND

    Made improvements at the same time when I kept doing that for approx 2 months.

    I did make strength gains and size gains, I wasnt using any AAS and my diet was not that good.

    I say I was a bodybuilder because Im training intensely for a branch in the Military now, making strength, speed, endurance, size and over all preforamance gains, just working out 1st thing in the morning, 3 meals a day either 1000 calories or 2000 each depending on my workouts.

    I didnt say it works for everyone but some of us can do it and make progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrapakilla
    how important is meal for breakfast before working out. Because i find i can eat like two slices of bread 50 carbs and about 7 protein right when i wake up then go work out better then having to wake up and have a whole meal or shake and having to weight the hour to hour and a half when i am already waking up early for work
    i have been hearing about how it is good to have some protein in your body when you start your workout so i would at least up the protein to 30g or so. you have just gone all night without protein, and i think it would be detrimintal to work out when you are deficient in protein.

    good luck

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    Recommended Prot/Carb ratio I believe is 1gram of protein to 3-4carbs for optimal preformance.

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    i usually wake up at 7 and go to the gym at 8 am on an empty stomach...maybe i'll force myself to eat something....i may have extra energy while at the gym then.

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    Try drinking a small Preworkout drink at the least, and I'm not a big fan of supplements either.. Try 15grams Whey with 50grams of maltodextrin. It should do wonders for your workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane
    hey bro, your question has been asked and answered in the dialogue above...you're just begging to get into an argument...I suggest to stay out of this one

    peace
    was this towards me?
    Last edited by suckysucky; 09-23-2006 at 11:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suckysucky
    was this towards me?
    yeah, but don't take offense bro
    it was getting quite heated up there..didn't want you to get in the middle of the argument

    and starting with "bull $hit" is never an invitation for friendly dialogue...I'm sure you will agree

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane
    yeah, but don't take offense bro
    it was getting quite heated up there..didn't want you to get in the middle of the argument

    and starting with "bull $hit" is never an invitation for friendly dialogue...I'm sure you will agree

    cheers
    oo na, it was just weird that u said MY question has been answered. Cause i didnt ask a question. I know and therefor dont have to ask if a pre workout meal is nessacery no matter who says its not. no disrespect meant

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