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    Please critique Diet/Training/Cycle plan

    Long time reader, infrequent poster here.

    Just wanted to get some feedback on a diet/training and cycle plan that I have...need help in a few areas.

    Quick stats on me:

    31 y/o
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    Solid 195lbs.
    8-10% BF
    Training for 7 years all natural
    Started lifting at 155 and put 40lbs on all natty...never lifted before 24 y/o

    Goals:
    -Put on quality 15-25lbs. of clean mass, maintain healthy weight and size. -Reduce fat to 6-8% BF

    This is the Diet plan:

    Meal #1 7 am
    -12 Egg White/3 whole
    -1 cup Oatmeal
    -1 cup lowfat yogurt/cottage cheese

    Meal #2 9 am
    -6 oz. Chicken breast
    -1 cup Brown Rice/Basmati rice
    -1 apple

    Meal #3 11-12 pm
    -2 cups wheat pasta/rice
    -3/4 cup salsa/lowfat marinara sauce
    -5 oz. chicken breast/ground turkey

    Meal #4 2-3 pm
    -4oz. Eye of Round beef/Ground Beef 95% Fat free
    -1 cup Frozen veggies
    -1/2 cup almonds or walnuts and 4 tbsp. natty PB

    Meal #5 6 pm (post-workout)
    -1 serving 40-50gr. Whey protein
    -2 cups whole milk
    -1 tbsp. Flaxseed oil
    -4 rice cakes

    Meal #6 7 pm
    -5 oz. Chicken Breast
    -1 cup rice
    -1 cup veggies

    Meal #7 8 pm
    -6 oz. Chicken breast
    -Baked Potatoe/Sweet potatoe

    Total Cals. 4600
    Total Protein 350 gr.
    Total Carbs 350 gr.
    Fats 100 gr.

    1 gal. of water daily

    Flexible on subbing out some food items for others of equal value.

    Training Plan:

    Week 1-8
    Mon - Chest/Tris
    Tues - Back/Bis
    Weds - Shoulders
    Thurs - Legs
    Fri - Lagging body parts/circuit train for 30-45 mins.
    Sat/Sun - Rest

    Week 9-12
    Mon - Chest/Tris/Shoulders
    Tues - Back/Bis
    Wed - Legs
    Thur-Sat - Repeat Mon-Wed.

    Most exercises will be basic compound exercises. Approx. 4-5 exercises per body part, 3-4 sets at 6-10 reps a piece not including warm ups

    Cardio will be performed either in the am after Meal 1 or post workout M-W-F

    Cycle plan is sketchy at this point. I plan on supplementing a TRT program but am unclear as to what I will be prescribed. Right now I am hedging my bets on Test C or P at weekly shots...my endo is giving me the option as to delivery method. I would like to supplement this with possibly Dbol , EQ or something along those lines. I'm looking for suggestions! PCT will include prescribed arimidex or nolva for pre-existing gyno. Might need more info on PCT protocols and what is available to me. I have a source for almost anything, so I am willing to adjust.

    I plan on using the Novice Cycle 3 as outlined on the homepage, basically consisting of Test E or C for 12 weeks and Dbol for 12 as well...I may need to supplement the amount that is going to be clinically administered, which I'm gathering will be around 200mgs a week

    Please, positive criticism only. If I'm all fukkered up then let me know what I need to adjust...everything thing is adjustable.

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    anyone? Is it bad, good, indifferent?

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    at meal 5 i would use water instead of milk and omit the flax oil, for faster digestion.

    meal 4 i would eat at least 6oz of meat.

    you could drink more water too.

    it looks pretty good, i would eat more green veggies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalsux
    at meal 5 i would use water instead of milk and omit the flax oil, for faster digestion.

    meal 4 i would eat at least 6oz of meat.

    you could drink more water too.

    it looks pretty good, i would eat more green veggies.

    What about using lowfat milk? Also, where could I put the Flax back in? Pre-bedtime shake?

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    Also, any thoughts on my cycle plans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    What about using lowfat milk? Also, where could I put the Flax back in? Pre-bedtime shake?
    flax at nighttime is great.

    you could use milk, it just slows down digestion, you need fast digestion after working out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    Also, any thoughts on my cycle plans?
    i like test e or c at 250mg per week.

    dbol for the first 5-6 weeks at 20-30mg per day.

    i would stay with that if its your 1st cycle.

    if you have to add something EQ at 600mg per week or deca at 400mg per week. your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalsux
    i like test e or c at 250mg per week.

    dbol for the first 5-6 weeks at 20-30mg per day.

    i would stay with that if its your 1st cycle.

    if you have to add something EQ at 600mg per week or deca at 400mg per week. your choice.

    I'm hoping to be at the threshhold for clinical usage...hence the 200mg/week. The way I figure, with my nat. test being as screwed up as it is, that any additional test in my body will yield a great response. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombguy
    I'm hoping to be at the threshhold for clinical usage...hence the 200mg/week. The way I figure, with my nat. test being as screwed up as it is, that any additional test in my body will yield a great response. Any thoughts?
    200 should be fine, i just said 250 cause its more common.

    yes, but it will take a few weeks to really get some thing from the test, like 5-6 weeks i think.
    but thats what the dbol is for, if you dont notice it enough on 20-30mg you could up it to 40-50mg per day. i got good pumps of 20-30mg.

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