Thinking of Bulking with this. Please Critique :)

[massbuild]

Ok then here we go. Im 23 year old 145 pounds and 165 cm tall (or short!) Im not currently running any steroid cycle and I am just maintaining my weight atm. I am looking to start bulking up in the next couple of weeks and normally just "go for it" with food. However, I have thought and come up with the below diet and am wondering on some suggestions or critism (no flaming!) I will be running a four day split with weights and will be eating the same on each day regardless. I am looking to gain as much lean mass as possible as well as strength increase.



Breakfast
8am
Oats 183 9
Scrambled Egg 180 15
Toast 200 9

10am
Nectar Protein Drink 90 23

Dinner
1pm
Chicken 300 40
Rice 250 4
Gravy 50 0

Afternoon
5pm
Nectar Protein Drink 90 23
Natural Yogurt 250 25

Tea
8pm
Beef Steak 300 40
Jacket Potato 300 5
Gravy/Butter 100 0

After Tea/Gym
9pm
Generic Whey Protein 250 30

Supper
11pm
Oats 183 9
Chicken Sandwich 300 30

It comes to about 3000 cals and about 260 grams of protein.

please tell me what you all think

Thanks in advance

[Johny-too-small]

Gravy? Butter? Toast? lol. You need more EFA's and complex carbs, bro..

Also, too many protein drinks. Get your protein through real, solid, food sources. You need to list your fats and carb macros as well if you want any real feedback.

[massbuild]

tbh this is just a quick mock up and the values are from memory and i can only remember the values for calories and protein. The toast will be wholemeal bread to go with my scrambled eggs. Just wanted some gravy and butter for the steak and potato, i didnt think that would matter too much but if it does it could be easily dropped.

Im only having three protein drinks and two of those are pure protein with no fat/carbs!

[Johny-too-small]

tbh this is just a quick mock up and the values are from memory and i can only remember the values for calories and protein. The toast will be wholemeal bread to go with my scrambled eggs. Just wanted some gravy and butter for the steak and potato, i didnt think that would matter too much but if it does it could be easily dropped.

Im only having three protein drinks and two of those are pure protein with no fat/carbs!

I dont see an issue with your bread source. The potato should be red or sweet, imo, and Id avoid butter. Why put on fat when you dont have to.

Only 3 protein shakes? lol. 1 is more than enough. 2 is 2 too many, imo. You'll piss most of that protein away, because its not a quality source such as egg whites, chicken, fish, etc... The fact that you dont drink your protein with any carbs or fats makes matters worse!!

[ricker35910]

Ok then here we go. Im 23 year old 145 pounds and 165 cm tall (or short!) Im not currently running any steroid cycle and I am just maintaining my weight atm. I am looking to start bulking up in the next couple of weeks and normally just "go for it" with food. However, I have thought and come up with the below diet and am wondering on some suggestions or critism (no flaming!) I will be running a four day split with weights and will be eating the same on each day regardless. I am looking to gain as much lean mass as possible as well as strength increase.



Breakfast
8am
Oats 183 9
Scrambled Egg 180 15
Toast 200 9

10am
Nectar Protein Drink 90 23

Dinner
1pm
Chicken 300 40
Rice 250 4
Gravy 50 0

Afternoon
5pm
Nectar Protein Drink 90 23
Natural Yogurt 250 25

Tea
8pm
Beef Steak 300 40
Jacket Potato 300 5
Gravy/Butter 100 0

After Tea/Gym
9pm
Generic Whey Protein 250 30

Supper
11pm
Oats 183 9
Chicken Sandwich 300 30

It comes to about 3000 cals and about 260 grams of protein.

please tell me what you all think

Thanks in advance

i also don't like the 4hr break between dinner at 1 and your afternoon meal at 5 also you need carbs after you train especially if you're tryin to grow. you have no carbs at 10, 5 and 9 throw some potatos and brown rice in there

[Johny-too-small]

i also don't like the 4hr break between dinner at 1 and your afternoon meal at 5 also you need carbs after you train especially if you're tryin to grow. you have no carbs at 10, 5 and 9 throw some potatos and brown rice in there

Excellent point. Eating every 2.5 - 3 hours ideal.

[AandF6969]

Good points made above...

Whole foods are better than shakes... you would do well to replace one or two of your early day shakes with real foods.

[massbuild]

Whoa i didnt realise i had a four hour break in their! I think i might drop the 10am protein drink and add a chicken sandwich their instead. That way im gettin the protein plus carbs from the bread. I think i would just have to add some more bread or something at 5pm as i am still at work and won't have enough time to cook rice/potato. I think i will just add a potato to the 9pm meal.

Also, ricker, when you say to add the above carb filled foods do you mean just to add them and increase cals or to change things around so that i have the same amount of cals?

The rethink atm of the diet is as follows:

Breakfast
8am
Oats 183 9
Scrambled Egg 180 15
Toast 200 9

10am
Chicken Sandwich 300 20

Dinner
1pm
Chicken 300 40
Rice 250 4

Mid Afternoon
Chicken Sandwich 300 20

Afternoon
5pm
Nectar Protein Drink 90 23
Natural Yogurt 250 25
Wholemeal Bread 200 9

Tea
8pm
Beef Steak 300 40
Jacket Potato 300 5
Some kind of cheese 100 5

After Tea/Gym
9pm
Nectar Protein Drink 90 23
Rice 250 4

Supper
11pm
Oats 183 9
Wholemeal Toast 200 9

This brings the new total to 3136 calories and 302 grams of protein. Any other changes i should consider?

Thanks again.

[Johny-too-small]

Still need the rest of the macros...

Also, you need protein in your last meal.