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    Raw eggs still bioavailable?

    I remember nark and Ibdmfkr talkin about how raw eggs protein isnt bioavailable so protein isnt as effective etc etc.

    Anyone know?

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    thats funny. i was just having a discussion about this with phate earlier today

    now by any means do i know what the hell im talking about

    but im paraphrasing phate

    if the egg whites are pasteurized... then they area heated to a high enough of a tempurate to activate the protein.

    so raw egg whites that you get from eggs out of the shell wont work unless you cook them

    but if you buy pasteurized egg whites in the cartons.. they will be good to go

    or so im told

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    I see but, WHY do they need to be heated for the protein to be "activated"?

    I read this just now just FYI

    The Health Benefits of Raw Eggs By John Claydon D.Hom



    The process of cooking eggs destroy the very goodness that our bodies so desperately need as the nature of proteins and fats is altered when exposed to heat. When cooked, the egg protein changes its chemical shape; it is often this process that can be the cause of allergies. Generally when eating raw eggs, any incidence of egg allergy will disappear.



    Surprisingly, in spite of ‘bad press’ raw eggs, organic or at least from a known source of healthy free-range chickens, are an excellent health tonic. The regular consumption of raw eggs will do wonders for your overall health. Exceptionally easy to digest, raw eggs provide a wonderful boost to the immune system, and a completely balanced nutritional package. A good immune system is one of several things the body needs to overcome cancer.



    Many people’s diets are deficient in high quality proteins and fats, and eggs are one the very best sources of these. Raw eggs have many benefits, they contain essential nutrients for the brain, nerves, glands and hormones, they are nutritionally balanced, and we highly recommend the addition of raw eggs to your nutritional programme. The sulphur amino acids help to keep you young, raw eggs also contain an abundance of other vital substances including protein, essential fatty acids along with niacin, riboflavin, biotin, choline, vitamins A, D and E, magnesium, potassium, phosphorous, manganese, iron, iodine, copper, zinc and sulphur. Egg yolks are one of the few foods that contain vitamin D.



    Poisoning from salmonella has been exaggerated in the past. A study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture in 2002 indicated that only 2.3 million, of the 69 billion eggs produced annually, are contaminated with salmonella. In other words 0.003% or 1 in every 30,000 eggs. The bulk of these come from battery chicken eggs and chickens kept in unhealthy conditions - only sick chickens lay salmonella contaminated eggs. If only healthy chicken eggs (organic and free range ideally) are consumed, then far less than one in 30,000 eggs are contaminated. Salmonella is a common micro-organism found almost everywhere, and is just as likely, or more likely, to proliferate on cooked food kept in the fridge. Infection is normally mild gastric symptoms, but in rare cases where the immune system is very low such in the elderly who have had much anti-biotic use, and the source is greatly contaminated, death can result. But such a person is highly lightly to contract one of many common micro-organisms and die from that. To give some perspective, in the highly unusual situation of contracting Salmonella, in a healthy person, an infection is nothing to worry about and is easily treated with high quality pro-biotics every half an hour until you feel better.



    Method of Consuming Raw Eggs



    From day one of starting raw eggs, your immune system becomes stronger and health will improve. We recommend Zell Oxygen as a key supplement for overall health enhancement. Three raw eggs a day (this will take the place of one meal), seems to be the preferred amount taken by people who regularly consume raw eggs. It is sensible to build up the amount of raw eggs consumed gradually. They are best taken by breaking them into a cup and swallowing whole. It can be helpful to cut through the yolk with a knife to make it easier to swallow, If you have a mental problem with swallowing raw eggs, (they are almost tasteless and easy to swallow) blend with a little goats or sheep’s milk or even avocado, but ideally raw eggs should not be blended as the molecular structure is damaged. Inspect the egg, if it has been cracked do not use it, once broken into the cup or blender smell it, if it smells off do not use it.



    It is best to keep eggs un-refrigerated, but in a cool place. Refrigeration can destroy the vital amino acids in raw eggs and can also disguise the distinctive smell of an egg that has gone off.



    Raw Eggs and Cholesterol



    There is no danger from the cholesterol build up since 2/3 of cholesterol in the body is produced by the liver. The amount of cholesterol consumed in the diet does not relate to the amount of cholesterol deposited. Many studies have shown that the cholesterol in eggs does not raise cholesterol level in the body. Furthermore, eggs contain Lecithin, a valuable nutrient that helps the body to process fats and cholesterol.



    Eggs contain valuable fat needed to keep us healthy. On the other hand heated or processed fats are converted into Trans-fats - toxic chemicals that harden in the body, around every cell and clog the circulation. Margarine contains an abundance of Trans-fats and is not part of a healthy diet. Do not be afraid of that natural product that has been eaten with no adverse effects for thousands of years, butter. The initial report that cholesterol in foods leads to health problems was released to the press without scientific validation, and has since been proven by hundreds of scientists and studies around the world to be completely false. The only benefits from the initial press release were to the margarine and vegetable oil industries.



    Raw Eggs and Biotin Deficiency



    Nature created an egg to be a balanced live food – as long as you eat the biotin rich yolk along with the white, there is no risk of a biotin deficiency.



    Quote from the book “The Recipe for Living Without Disease” By Aajonus Vonderplanitz



    Free range (ideally from healthy chickens, including organically certified, even better are fertile eggs).



    “Raw eggs are one of the best compact foods in nature. Eggs are the ultimate, complete fast food. However the protein in eggs is not utilised for cellular reproduction. They are utilised for regeneration and maintenance. The relationship between raw eggs and salmonella poisoning is a myth"

    (Reference the great egg panic by Emily Green, LA R times Jan 2000)



    Eggs are remarkable for everyone especially the infirm. Three years ago a medical doctor called me on a Thursday evening about her 70 yr old female patient with emphysema. She explained that her patient had been mainly bed-ridden for two years, was on 100% oxygen and respiratory machines. She prognosed that her patient would die that weekend unless I could help. I told her that the only thing I thought might help at that late stage was eggs. I recommended that she get her patient 10 dozen raw eggs, and put them on her bed table. I suggested that she ask her patient to eat one as often as she could and that there was no limit. Very early Monday morning, I received a call from the patient. She told me that she was off the machines, out of bed and feeling stronger that she had in years. She had eaten 66 eggs over the weekend.



    If eggs are whipped, beaten or blended without raw milk, raw cream, or coconut cream, many of the enzymes are oxidised and lost.” It is best to break open the egg into a cup or glass and swallow whole. Most people are repelled by this, but with a little courage it is found to be easy. There is almost no taste and the egg, even big ones are easily swallowed. Generally, I find, 3 to 4 eggs taken in the morning are an important part of my well-being programme. The cholesterol in raw eggs is not deposited in the arteries and is an essential nutrient for aiding health and well-being. The white of the egg has been said to interfere with biotin assimilation, but nature knows best by making the egg yolk very rich in biotin. The egg in its entirety is a very balanced food and only supports health and should be taken in its entirety, yolk and white together.



    Disclaimer: Regenerative Nutrition advocates a holistic approach to natural health and wellbeing. The body's ability and power to heal depends upon the totality of diet, nutrition, lifestyle and environmental factors. No claims for the cure of any disease is intended, or implied. Always consult a health care practitioner when combating disease states. The statements in this article have not been approved by the FDA.

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    It is best to keep eggs un-refrigerated, but in a cool place. Refrigeration can destroy the vital amino acids in raw eggs and can also disguise the distinctive smell of an egg that has gone off.
    Raw Eggs and Biotin Deficiency
    Nature created an egg to be a balanced live food – as long as you eat the biotin rich yolk along with the white, there is no risk of a biotin deficiency.



    these 2 points were most interesting

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    I got salmonella this winter from contaminated peanuts. ****ing sucked. Puked my guts out for 2 weeks. I'll stick to pasturized eggs even if the risk of salmonella is pretty low right out of the shell. The texture is also a whole lot more pleasant once they're pasturized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    It is best to keep eggs un-refrigerated, but in a cool place. Refrigeration can destroy the vital amino acids in raw eggs and can also disguise the distinctive smell of an egg that has gone off.
    Raw Eggs and Biotin Deficiency
    Nature created an egg to be a balanced live food – as long as you eat the biotin rich yolk along with the white, there is no risk of a biotin deficiency.



    these 2 points were most interesting



    yea wtf????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dehydromethandrotren View Post
    yea wtf????
    well im refridgerating my egg white in cartons
    along with my whole eggs. cuz thats just crazy talk. lol

    and so ill drink some of pre packaged egg whites and throw in some regular whole eggs with em so i get the proper nutrient out of the yolk so i dont become biotin deficient?

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    I hate how its always an unanswered question though....

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    Simple answer yes or no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do eggs need to be cooked?

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    thank you for posting a proyolk article. i have constantly been laughed at for admitting that i eat alot of whole eggs.
    i now consume about a dozen a day.
    i haven't drank them though.
    after reading this i am gonna try it. makes things easier to clean lol.

    i once was told raw eggs will make a human throw up and was an old remedy for upset stomaches or food poison.. anyone know about this?

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    phate where are you? we need a definate answer.

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    I am still wandering on this? I eat free range unpasturi2ed eggs though... I am a whole egg eater to 1* so let them laugh at the both of us. The only downside is the higher cholesterol and fat, but I am sure that's no matter with the workout ethic that I am sure we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakie View Post
    I am still wandering on this? I eat free range unpasturi2ed eggs though... I am a whole egg eater to 1* so let them laugh at the both of us. The only downside is the higher cholesterol and fat, but I am sure that's no matter with the workout ethic that I am sure we have.
    the higher cholesterol and fat are nothing to worry about. it's not what it looks like on paper. it's all good for you.

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    I know, that's why I munch away at the good stuff. I have extra room for the calories anyway... Too la2y to cut out the yolks too. That is probably the biggest part of it. I feel like I am wasting food too.

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    I stopped cooking eggs about a month ago. Now all I do is drink them raw. And those little cartons of "Only Whites" are great when you are in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeldno View Post
    Simple answer yes or no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do eggs need to be cooked?
    to get the most of out them and eliminate the risk of biotin deficiency, yes

    Quote Originally Posted by kalspic View Post
    phate where are you? we need a definate answer.
    what's the question bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post
    And those little cartons of "Only Whites" are great when you are in the car.
    this is a sign of a real man

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    it was the op's question. but it was already answered. thanks.

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