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    Question skinny guy needs help to eat right before cycle

    ok guys I have been getting my but kicked in 1 of the other forums. I have bought a cycle to start but I'm being told to get my diet in check. I am 6ft 165lbs and run religiously. I know from researching that diet is as if not more important then doing a cycle right. Does anyone have suggestions or a diet chart for me to live by? Thank you for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo31 View Post
    ok guys I have been getting my but kicked in 1 of the other forums. I have bought a cycle to start but I'm being told to get my diet in check. I am 6ft 165lbs and run religiously. I know from researching that diet is as if not more important then doing a cycle right. Does anyone have suggestions or a diet chart for me to live by? Thank you for your help
    read up dude, check out some of the posts on diets to give you somewhat of an idea. Besides that; diet, training, and cardio should be done first before choosing a cycle...

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    Welcome to the diet forum....

    if you have not already done so, post up your stats

    age
    weight
    height
    bf
    goals.. be specific

    please take the time to follow these directions, they will better prepair the both of us for the critique and tweaking of your diet..

    you need to figure our your BMR (this is the basal metabolic rate of your body... which means if you were to do nothing all day, ur body would burn these many calories)

    once u'v figured out your BMR, u need your TDEE (this is your total daily energy expenditure, it's based upon your activity level)


    But first things first, please post up your current diet.. you have to be brutally honest about what you've been eating on average for the last few weeks so i know where your metabolism is at..
    please include macros

    MACROS = pro/fat/cal/carb of every meal and a daily total on the bottom
    you can use fitday . com to help you our with this... be as detailed and specific as possible

    please include the time of when u eat and the time of your workout

    example:

    6am pro/carb/fat/cal
    10 egg whites 50/0/0/200
    1/2 cup oats- 3/50/2/218
    53/50/2/418


    REMEMBER

    1g protien - 4cal
    1g carb - 4cal
    1g fat - 9cal
    1g alcohol - 8cal (some would argue 7)



    also tell me what your workout reg is...



    BMR formula #1 (if you bf is high, use this one... you need an accurate bf reading)


    BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)



    in order to figure out your bmr, you need to know what your lean body mass is.. so, in turn, u need to know what your body fat percentage is...

    if you dont know your bodyfat percentage, go to your gym and get tested (please dont use electronic scales to get your bf checked, they're horrible)

    if you cannot find a gym to get tested at, please post up a picture for estimates, we're pretty good at it (you also have the option of pming it to me if you have more then 25 posts)

    Total weight x bf in decimel form = total bf weight

    Total weight - total bf weight = total lean body mass

    if your total lean body mass is in lbs, u can divide it by 2.2 to get it in kilograms..

    for example..

    i am 6'4 275lbs at 14% bf... so i would multiply 275 by .14 (converted from percent to decimal)= 38.5lbs

    275 - 38.5 = 236.5lbs lean body weight

    236.5 / 2.2 = 107.5 lean mass in kg

    370 + (21.6 x 107.5) = 2692 BMR (this is high for the average person, im a big guy)




    BMR formula #2 (only to be used if your bf is low)

    Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )


    female BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )


    TDEE

    Once u have you bmr, u need to calculate your TDEE, this is simply done with some multiplication...

    you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

    To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


    If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9



    Once you have your TDEE, i need you to watch these videos

    Milos Sarcev "Secret of the Pro's" on Nutrition

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

    this video will give you a great idea as to what your diet should be looking like and the foods you should be eating..

    it's also very informative as to how dieting works and what you need to be doing..


    once you've aquired this vast knowledge and done what i'v asked of you, please post up a new diet for critiquing and finalization...
    please include macros and times just as before...


    try to remember that dieting is not an overnight thing.. it takes time and patience....

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    32 years old
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    not sure on body fat but I know very little
    get ripped and build mass, looking at 1 to 2 cycle

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    you need to work through the WHOLE sticky bud... keep reading.. there's a wealth of knowledge in here..

    btw we dont spoon feed diets here, we help YOU customize one..

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    hey jamy, I tried to copy this so you did not have to but my computer locked up, lol! Maybe Ill beat you to it next time...

    off topic...

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    gotcha and thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsinc View Post
    hey jamy, I tried to copy this so you did not have to but my computer locked up, lol! Maybe Ill beat you to it next time...

    off topic...
    hey your more then welcome to use it bud...

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    Isn't there a copyright?

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    just give credit when credit is due

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