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    Replace all sugar with sucralose?

    I read The Case Against Sugar book twice, and still not getting it. Why not get rid of sugar altogether and use sucralose to sweeten foods that need to be sweetened? Seems like an obvious solution to the sugar problem, no?

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    Sucralose (and other artificial sweeteners) are made by the sugar industry companies. They wouldn't terminate their most profitable ingredient.

    If you walk up and down all the non perishable aisles at the grocery store you'll count an easy 50+ brands. 4 companies own all those brands
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    Step 1: throw any book you own, written by Taubes in the trash.
    Step 2: never buy another one.
    Step 3: pick up biology texts if you want information and not made up bullshit.

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    These artificial sweetners and replacements concern me more than the real thing. I use real sugar and always will. I just don't use abuse it and use it in sparingly amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Sucralose (and other artificial sweeteners) are made by the sugar industry companies. They wouldn't terminate their most profitable ingredient.

    If you walk up and down all the non perishable aisles at the grocery store you'll count an easy 50+ brands. 4 companies own all those brands
    Yeah, but if one of those companies started replacing sugar with sweetener in their products wouldn't they have an advantage? Sucralose has no nutritional value. Market it right and they could charge premium prices, then the other companies would switch too.

    Obesity is an epidemic in the first world. People want to be less fat and they don't want to jog...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavefunction View Post
    Yeah, but if one of those companies started replacing sugar with sweetener in their products wouldn't they have an advantage? Sucralose has no nutritional value. Market it right and they could charge premium prices, then the other companies would switch too.

    Obesity is an epidemic in the first world. People want to be less fat and they don't want to jog...
    The obesity problem isn’t solely sugar’s doing. That’s the issue. Fatties want a simple boogeyman, but it doesn’t exist. Read this excerpt from The Hungry Brain to see how stupid the whole thing is.



    The source of the obesity epidemic is multifactorial, and just getting rid of sugar won’t help any more than the fat free Snackwells bullshit did. We have large corporations they employ people who are very good at making foods as easy to overconsume as possible.
    Sugar doesn’t help, but look at Jimmy Moore’s fat ass. Dude went “keto for health” and wanted to gain some “healthy weight”. He now looks like a My 600 lbs. Life casting reject, all thanks to overeating butter and eggs and bacon, etc.
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    I’m going to buy sucralose and try to cook healthy candy.

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    It's people's fault that gets them fat, not sugar's. I'm using sodium cyclamate (it's legal in my country) and I had periods of stress where I simply had a bad diet that got me fat without sugar.
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    You know what's strange about sucralose I'd check my fasted bg in the am then consume a drink that contained no sugar but sucralose and my bg would go up a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teejey View Post
    You know what's strange about sucralose I'd check my fasted bg in the am then consume a drink that contained no sugar but sucralose and my bg would go up a little bit.

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    What’s bg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavefunction View Post
    What’s bg?
    Blood glucose

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    sugar is a nutrient that can be very helpful and useful .. replacing sugar with an artificial sweetener is just plain silly. its like drinking non alcoholic beer. the whole reason you would drink a beer in the first place is for the alcohol content .. if you drink too much beer and you can't handle your liquor, thats your own damn fault you pussy . not the beers fault .
    same with sugar . just learn to use it with a purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    sugar is a nutrient that can be very helpful and useful ..
    In what cases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavefunction View Post
    In what cases?
    well for one, in case of death . a blood glucose (sugar) drip may be administered via IV to save your life in case of severe dehydration.

    many endurance athletes at the highest levels would of not of performed at the olympics and set world records if it were not for sugar being a useful tool
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    also .. biologically speaking . if your blood SUGAR is not maintained at a certain level , you will die . your body stores sugar easily because its an essential nutrient for life . if sugar gets too low , your brain stops working and you will go into a coma and eventually die unless your sugar levels are elevated

    the brain can work off ketones instead of sugar , but that takes time to build up . ketones are not just magically there from nothing.
    so sugar becomes an essential nutrient in most cases

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    What GH is posting here is exactly why I recommend you read texts and literature about biology and disease states, and not the nonsensical ramblings of Taubes and Fung about “big sugar” and other such nonsense.
    If you don’t understand how things function in the body, you’re going to be more prone to falling for bullshit quackery from people with an agenda.
    Taubes was once asked if he’d change his views if they were irrevocably refuted by the scientific method. He responded “no”. He’s held to that thus far.
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    Consuming too much sugar may lead to health issues but I have a sweet tooth so for me it's definitely hard to exclude it at all.

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    I use NOW BetterStevia power from this site instead of sugar. It contains pure Stevia extract. Also, it is zero-calorie and low glycemic As for me, this organic sweetener makes a perfectly healthy substitute for table sugar and artificial sweeteners. Though it is good to know other people's experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wavefunction View Post
    I read The Case Against Sugar book twice, and still not getting it. Why not get rid of sugar altogether and use sucralose to sweeten foods that need to be sweetened? Seems like an obvious solution to the sugar problem, no?
    Acute water retention is the biggest common issue. You will look like your E2 is high as hell if you use artifical sweetners to the max. If you ever wondered why "healthy" 50 year old peeps are dieing check their diet cola intake. It is the devil and the propaganda is thick. Sugar in proper ammounts is not an issue. Processed foods and artifical sweetners are the issue.

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