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    Is 200 grams of protein enough for a cutting cycle?

    I'm 190 pounds (5'11 tall) right now and this is the amount of protein I'm getting. So far I'm in my 3rd week cycling trying to shred a bit (my bodyfat is very high) and have regained a lot of muscle mass. I have noticed I'm started to planteau though. For example, last week I was 192 pounds and this morning I weighted the same. It also looks like I didn't lose body fat because my waist is about the same as well. I'm not too sure how to keep lowering my calories because at this point I am only consuming less than 130grams of carbs. I do cardio 5 times a week (1 hour a day). Doing more than this will exhaust the fuck out of me.

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    Whats your whole day's meal plan? 7oz of protein a day is one meal tyically.

    My guess is you're body is in starvation mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    Whats your whole day's meal plan? 7oz of protein a day is one meal tyically.

    My guess is you're body is in starvation mode.
    Hi.

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    Whats your whole day's meal plan? 7oz of protein a day is one meal tyically.

    My guess is you're body is in starvation mode.
    I consume the most protein during the breakfast (65 grams of protein). Besides breakfast I have 3 more major meals each one having 5-6 Oz of protein on average. In my last meal I don't consume carbs aside of the greens/salad. I also have 1 to 2 snacks a day (usually some nuts or coffee with free sugar creamer).

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    Sources of protein:
    Ground turkey (93% lean), ground beef (96% lean), eggs (mostly egg whites), whey protein.

    Carbs: brown rice, oats... also bagels (half of a cinammon bagel a day which is only 120 calories). I'm not counting the carbs contained in the greens/veggies.

    Fats: avocado, peanut butter.

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    5'11" and 190lbs....what is your BF%?

    Cycling? you mean riding s bike? or running gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    Hi.



    I consume the most protein during the breakfast (65 grams of protein). Besides breakfast I have 3 more major meals each one having 5-6 Oz of protein on average. In my last meal I don't consume carbs aside of the greens/salad. I also have 1 to 2 snacks a day (usually some nuts or coffee with free sugar creamer).
    Your math is off, that's 530 grams not 200.

    Coffee is not a meal.

    I mean what is your exact meal plan...for example

    Meal One
    10oz liguid egg whites
    2 slices of white toast
    2 slices of turkey bacon
    1/2 cup of oats

    Meal 2
    8oz of lean meat
    4oz guac
    6oz greens

    Etc.
    Etc.

    There is no way in hell you should be running 600 mg of test or for that matter ANY anabolics with body fat that is "super high"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    Your math is off, that's 530 grams not 200.

    Coffee is not a meal.

    I mean what is your exact meal plan...for example

    Meal One
    10oz liguid egg whites
    2 slices of white toast
    2 slices of turkey bacon
    1/2 cup of oats

    Meal 2
    8oz of lean meat
    4oz guac
    6oz greens

    Etc.
    Etc.

    There is no way in hell you should be running 600 mg of test or for that matter ANY anabolics with body fat that is "super high"
    Do you consider 17% -18% bf super high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    Your math is off, that's 530 grams not 200.

    Coffee is not a meal.

    I mean what is your exact meal plan...for example

    Meal One
    10oz liguid egg whites
    2 slices of white toast
    2 slices of turkey bacon
    1/2 cup of oats

    Meal 2
    8oz of lean meat
    4oz guac
    6oz greens

    Etc.
    Etc.

    There is no way in hell you should be running 600 mg of test or for that matter ANY anabolics with body fat that is "super high"
    5-6 Oz of COOKED meal. Thats roughly around 40 Oz of protein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    Do you consider 17% -18% bf super high?
    At your height and weight IMO no.

    YOU said super high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    5-6 Oz of COOKED meal. Thats roughly around 40 Oz of protein.
    Whats your whole day's meal plan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    Whats your whole day's meal plan?
    Morning
    Protein shake (2 1/2 scoops of whey protein plus berries and almond milk)
    1/2 teaspoon peanut butter
    30oz raw oats
    Half of bagel

    Noon
    5-6 Oz cooked ground turkey 93% fat
    50 Oz brown rice cooked
    Greens

    3pm
    5-6 Oz cooked ground turkey 93% fat
    50 Oz brown rice cooked
    Greens

    6pm
    Some nuts

    8pm
    Banana

    11pm
    5 Oz ground cook beef 96%
    Greens
    Half of avocado
    3 whole eggs and 1 egg white

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    I wake up sometimes at noon meaning that i have a late breakfast and 2nd meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    I'm 190 pounds (5'11 tall) right now and this is the amount of protein I'm getting. So far I'm in my 3rd week cycling trying to shred a bit (my bodyfat is very high) and have regained a lot of muscle mass. I have noticed I'm started to planteau though. For example, last week I was 192 pounds and this morning I weighted the same. It also looks like I didn't lose body fat because my waist is about the same as well. I'm not too sure how to keep lowering my calories because at this point I am only consuming less than 130grams of carbs. I do cardio 5 times a week (1 hour a day). Doing more than this will exhaust the fuck out of me.
    So ton answer your question 200 grams of protein daily should be fine and stay off the scale! Take weekly pictures and only get on the scale after a while if you’re not leaning, honestly as much as all that cardio sucks it’s necessary to get super lean but unless you’re closing in on super lean you cut your carbs too much and increased your cardio too much my thought process is to look at it like your taking 1.5-2 lbs body fat per week and only restrict when you have to because of progress, there also needs to be a refeed in there and the last 6 weeks is when you really start restricting carbs and doing the carb cycling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    Morning
    Protein shake (2 1/2 scoops of whey protein plus berries and almond milk)
    1/2 teaspoon peanut butter
    30oz raw oats
    Half of bagel

    Noon
    5-6 Oz cooked ground turkey 93% fat
    50 Oz brown rice cooked
    Greens

    3pm
    5-6 Oz cooked ground turkey 93% fat
    50 Oz brown rice cooked
    Greens

    6pm
    Some nuts

    8pm
    Banana

    11pm
    5 Oz ground cook beef 96%
    Greens
    Half of avocado
    3 whole eggs and 1 egg white
    OK, you're on the right track here, but IMO per my previous post you are not eating enough and are likely catabolic.

    Also, did I miss it: what cycle are you running?

    You need to make your 6pm and 8pm meals actual meals.

    I'd switch to white rice (brown rice has gluten) try having a pre-workout and post workout meal with 7oz of lean meat and about 3/4 cup of rice (thats a starting point, you may need to increase or decrease as needed)

    Eat every 3 hours EVERY DAY. No excuses.

    You're doing too much cardio; 30 minutes a day/steady pace >>> increaseing your calories steadily will add muscle, this can replace the need for excessive cardio.

    Do your cardo 1st thing in the am before Meal 1 or IMMEDIATELY after training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    Morning
    Protein shake (2 1/2 scoops of whey protein plus berries and almond milk)
    1/2 teaspoon peanut butter
    30oz raw oats
    Half of bagel

    Noon
    5-6 Oz cooked ground turkey 93% fat
    50 Oz brown rice cooked
    Greens

    3pm
    5-6 Oz cooked ground turkey 93% fat
    50 Oz brown rice cooked
    Greens

    6pm
    Some nuts

    8pm
    Banana

    11pm
    5 Oz ground cook beef 96%
    Greens
    Half of avocado
    3 whole eggs and 1 egg white
    Not enough food man. You need at least 6 complete meals a day. Some nuts and a banana are just snacks…. So from 3pm to 11 pm ur starving yourself. No wonder you’re not making any gains. You have 2 maybe and a strong maybe 3 solid meals. Cut a scoop and half of fake powder protein out and replace with liquid egg whites. Half a teaspoon of peanut butter is literally not even worth opening the damn jar .

    Forget about gear until you get your diet right. It’s about 40% right as of now. Lot of improvement needed. Then learn to train, this will take minimum 1-2 years. Then you might could add gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    OK, you're on the right track here, but IMO per my previous post you are not eating enough and are likely catabolic.

    Also, did I miss it: what cycle are you running?

    You need to make your 6pm and 8pm meals actual meals.

    I'd switch to white rice (brown rice has gluten) try having a pre-workout and post workout meal with 7oz of lean meat and about 3/4 cup of rice (thats a starting point, you may need to increase or decrease as needed)

    Eat every 3 hours EVERY DAY. No excuses.

    You're doing too much cardio; 30 minutes a day/steady pace >>> increaseing your calories steadily will add muscle, this can replace the need for excessive cardio.

    Do your cardo 1st thing in the am before Meal 1 or IMMEDIATELY after training.
    I do cardios at night after my workouts. I go to bed a 2am regularly and wake up at noon lately during my vacation.

    My cycle consists of 600mg test C twice a week and dbol 50mg a day. I'm already on my fourth week but it looks like I reached a plateau in my last 10 days (same bf%, same weight). My first meal sometimes is at 2pm when I wake up late. You can say I fast during the morning. Is it too bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Not enough food man. You need at least 6 complete meals a day. Some nuts and a banana are just snacks…. So from 3pm to 11 pm ur starving yourself. No wonder you’re not making any gains. You have 2 maybe and a strong maybe 3 solid meals. Cut a scoop and half of fake powder protein out and replace with liquid egg whites. Half a teaspoon of peanut butter is literally not even worth opening the damn jar .

    Forget about gear until you get your diet right. It’s about 40% right as of now. Lot of improvement needed. Then learn to train, this will take minimum 1-2 years. Then you might could add gear.
    I'm doing a cutting cycle. This is 3rd cycle (2nd cutting cycle). I've been training for long. I'm 40 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    I'm doing a cutting cycle. This is 3rd cycle (2nd cutting cycle). I've been training for long. I'm 40 years old.
    Oh. Well, sounds like you got everything figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Oh. Well, sounds like you got everything figured out.
    Sorry. I was trying to highlight I'm doing a cutting cycle in case you missed it.

    Do you still think I'm starving? It's sound a bit contradictory considering I'm trying to lose weight. I usually have a cheating day with lots of carbs every 2 weeks to load by body with more carbs. I did a fasting yesterday and plan to do another one tomorrow.

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    So the general consensus is that I have to add more food? Maybe more carbs? Maybe 300 calories more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    So the general consensus is that I have to add more food? Maybe more carbs? Maybe 300 calories more?
    Read my previous ppst #14

    .....and you need to shelf the anabolics for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaron View Post
    I'm 190 pounds (5'11 tall) right now and this is the amount of protein I'm getting. So far I'm in my 3rd week cycling trying to shred a bit (my bodyfat is very high) and have regained a lot of muscle mass. I have noticed I'm started to planteau though. For example, last week I was 192 pounds and this morning I weighted the same. It also looks like I didn't lose body fat because my waist is about the same as well. I'm not too sure how to keep lowering my calories because at this point I am only consuming less than 130grams of carbs. I do cardio 5 times a week (1 hour a day). Doing more than this will exhaust the fuck out of me.
    Just wanna say one thing. Actually u burn pretty little from moving/training.
    If u wanna loose weigth, cardio is not that efficient.
    Think of it this way. We were hunters/runners. Had to run for a day to get a meal.
    If the body burned a lot during exercise, we would be gone long time ago.

    Hormones, fasting and when u eat, not what, is more important.

    The most efficient is training in a fasted state. 20 hours wo food or more, especially when u get a GHboost from it. Growth hormone will protect muscles and burn fat.
    Always train in a fasted state, bro. New life, new look.

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    It really depends on your individual needs, but 200 grams of protein can be sufficient for many during a cutting cycle. Focus on a balanced diet, stay in a caloric deficit, and monitor your progress to adjust as needed. Also u may find it interesting how garlic can help u with it (https://betterme.world/articles/eati...ic-before-bed/) .Your body's response is the best guide. Good luck
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    wait, I may be a little high here but does that say 2 meals with 50 ounces of rice in each?

    or is it typo and should say 5?
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