Whats worse over or under eating?

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-02-2004, 03:54 AM

Im not talking eating way to much or starving yourself. But what is worse for a weight loss diet.

Eating a bit to much or a bit to little?

**beenie** · 04-02-2004, 05:57 AM

Neither is great. Too little and you lose muscle too much and you gain fat. So, you need to get it right.

**decadbal** · 04-02-2004, 07:20 AM

id go over, bc you can cardio it off, if your undernourished, youll prolly lose some muscle size and thats a big HELL NO...lol

**SwoleCat** · 04-02-2004, 08:26 AM

Are you worried you are doing one or the other?

~SC~

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-02-2004, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Are you worried you are doing one or the other?

~SC~

Yupp..
Im worried that Im undereating cause my weightloss is not going quite fast enough and maby eating to little is putting my body into starvation mode if such a thing exists??

But on the other hand Im gaining strenght and even size(new stretch marks on the trapz and my arms have grown can feel it in some clotes, but they sure havent become fatter) very good right now so undereating seems odd.

The thing is Im 100% sure Im not overeating, if I am then I must have the ****ties metabolism ever.

Feels like I cant push my food intake much lower

**daman1** · 04-02-2004, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by johan

Yupp..
Im worried that Im undereating cause my weightloss is not going quite fast enough and maby eating to little is putting my body into starvation mode if such a thing exists??

But on the other hand Im gaining strenght and even size(new stretch marks on the trapz and my arms have grown can feel it in some clotes, but they sure havent become fatter) very good right now so undereating seems odd.

The thing is Im 100% sure Im not overeating, if I am then I must have the ****ties metabolism ever.

Feels like I cant push my food intake much lower

The only way you'll know what works for your body is by trial and error. Try eating a little more for a bit. Toggle with things and learn your body. Once you do, you'll know it for life.

**Elliot** · 04-02-2004, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by daman1

The only way you'll know what works for your body is by trial and error. Try eating a little more for a bit. Toggle with things and learn your body. Once you do, you'll know it for life.

or read that book body 4 life.. god we should gather thoes things up and start a camp fire.. i got the smores

**SwoleCat** · 04-02-2004, 11:47 AM

You may not need to lower calories, but you may need to exchange grams of a macro for grams of another, and re-arrange some activities. Taking away food usually isn't the way to do it in a situation such as your's, but changing the food is.

~SC~

**Elliot** · 04-02-2004, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

You may not need to lower calories, but you may need to exchange grams of a macro for grams of another, and re-arrange some activities. Taking away food usually isn't the way to do it in a situation such as your's, but changing the food is.

~SC~

or your routine.. if your results are hindering change up your cardio and weight training.. skip a cheat day for once and see how it comes along..

**SwoleCat** · 04-02-2004, 11:52 AM

Yeah bro, change the routine.......that's what I meant by re-arrange some activities (cardio/weights)......

Shirt goes out today!

~SC~

**Elliot** · 04-02-2004, 11:59 AM

off topic swole should you do cardio while bulking..? it sounds like a dumbass idea but wouldnt it help prevent the excess fat gains while bulking..?

**daman1** · 04-02-2004, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Elliot

off topic swole should you do cardio while bulking..? it sounds like a dumbass idea but wouldnt it help prevent the excess fat gains while bulking..?

I do it 3 days a week when bulking..

**Elliot** · 04-02-2004, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by daman1

I do it 3 days a week when bulking..

yeah im a do that in the fall when i bulk..

**longhornDr** · 04-02-2004, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by johan

Yupp..
Im worried that Im undereating cause my weightloss is not going quite fast enough and maby eating to little is putting my body into starvation mode if such a thing exists??

But on the other hand Im gaining strenght and even size(new stretch marks on the trapz and my arms have grown can feel it in some clotes, but they sure havent become fatter) very good right now so undereating seems odd.

The thing is Im 100% sure Im not overeating, if I am then I must have the ****ties metabolism ever.

Feels like I cant push my food intake much lower

Don't get caught up worrying about what the scale says...if you're getting bigger/stronger and the mirror says you are leaning out, then obviously your diet is in check.

I've been running SC's SGX for 2 months now and my weight is exactly the same when I started but I'm much leaner and much stronger. Don't let the scale get to your head.

**SwoleCat** · 04-02-2004, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by longhornDr

I've been running SC's SGX for 2 months now and my weight is exactly the same when I started but I'm much leaner and much stronger. Don't let the scale get to your head.

X-Tremely KEY!!!!!! My program is not just a program for "weight" loss.........those NEVER work.....

Very nice to hear, keep it up brutha!

~SC~

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 05:33 AM

Thanks for all the godd advices bro's. Im gonna leave the workouts as they are cause they are giving me huge strenght gains

but I can play around with cardio a bit, Increase it to a hour from 45 minutes.

Also gonna try and add some more healthy fats, olive oil in a shake before beed maby.

More carbs postworkout also seems like a good idea.

Another idea Im playing around with is a high carb day in the middle of the week?
Right now I stay below 100g carbs on workout day and below 50g on non workout days and have one pig out day every friday.
Maby my body needs another carb fueling day(but not another pig out day obviously)?

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 08:36 AM

Man ohh man I wrote earlier that my strenght gains are very good. But I have to say they are incredible. Im gaining strenght now almost better then when Im bulking. Its bloody insane, pulled a 44pound pr 1rm in deadlift today. Im just gaining like a mad man, how the hell is that possible while cutting harder then I have ever done before?

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 08:42 AM

I guess you are right when you said I shouldnt bother checking weight, I can see in the mirror that Im leaning out and the **** scale just plays tricks with the mind.
The ****ed upp thing is that I can flex in the mirror and feel very lean, then I jump on the scale and if I havent lost weight I suddenly look all fat when I flex. **** must have muscle dysmoprhia and anorexia combined

**usualsuspect** · 04-03-2004, 09:21 AM

Johan-get your bodyfat checked periodically to gauge your progress since the scale can be very misleading. The scale is pratically useless, especially when your auto cycling your carbs.

Do you measure all your food? I was very surprised how many calories I was depriving mybody of when I was eyeballing the amounts.

Good luck,
~US~

**daman1** · 04-03-2004, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by johan

must have muscle dysmoprhia and anorexia combined

I know the feeling bro. I try to limit getting on the scale as much as possible..

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by usualsuspect

Johan-get your bodyfat checked periodically to gauge your progress since the scale can be very misleading. The scale is pratically useless, especially when your auto cycling your carbs.

Do you measure all your food? I was very surprised how many calories I was depriving mybody of when I was eyeballing the amounts.

Good luck,
~US~

I dont know anywhere to check bodyfat realy

I dont trust those impedance scales one bit and I cant afford to buy calipers.

Yeah I messure and weight everything that goes into my mouth

Here is my diet outlined rougly. The kind of meats ect variates but the ammounts is about the same all the time.
http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=89813

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 09:26 AM

the only thing I do different now from that thread is that I eat more but smaller meals.

**daman1** · 04-03-2004, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by johan

the only thing I do different now from that thread is that I eat more but smaller meals.

Did you go on the calorie deficite like the bros were saying? Also, if I remember correctly, you werent getting enough protein. Did you up that?

D

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by daman1

Did you go on the calorie deficite like the bros were saying? Also, if I remember correctly, you werent getting enough protein. Did you up that?

D

I thought below 2000kcal is pretty low already?

Im afraid to cut it down lower to be honest

I get betwen 280 and 300g of protein a day and thats 1,5g/pound of bodyweight. Seems enough

**daman1** · 04-03-2004, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by johan

I thought below 2000kcal is pretty low already?

Im afraid to cut it down lower to be honest

I get betwen 280 and 300g of protein a day and thats 1,5g/pound of bodyweight. Seems enough

Well if it's working for you don't change it. I am by no means an expert about how your body works. That is a great protein intake. Keep up the good work and keep us posted!

D

**Kärnfysikern** · 04-03-2004, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by daman1

Well if it's working for you don't change it. I am by no means an expert about how your body works. That is a great protein intake. Keep up the good work and keep us posted!

D

How low do you usualy push yourself in kcal when cutting and at what bodyweight? How many g of protein do you eat?

What Im doing now is working but Im sure it could work alot better with a little tweaking, sorry if I come of as if I dont listen to your advices, I sure do and I appriciate them.

**daman1** · 04-03-2004, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by johan

How low do you usualy push yourself in kcal when cutting and at what bodyweight? How many g of protein do you eat?

What Im doing now is working but Im sure it could work alot better with a little tweaking, sorry if I come of as if I dont listen to your advices, I sure do and I appriciate them.

Well as you know it all varies with how much I weigh at the time, but I would say when I cut up I'm usually around 270-275 cutting down to 250-255. I usually put my intake to around 3000 cals. Lastly, I don't think you ignore my advice. It's just advice, and you know your body 100% more than I do. I am always here to help!