sciroxx ??

**jrlabat** · 01-16-2013, 06:15 PM

Whats up with these guys ?? are they gtg??

**austinite** · 01-16-2013, 09:29 PM

Yes. They're great.

**harley121** · 01-18-2013, 07:08 AM

I saw on another board that someone gave them a great thumbs up as long as they werent coming out of Israel. Anyone know anything about that?

**snowman** · 01-18-2013, 07:57 AM

not sure where you guys are from, but i said this before ,and i will say it again... here in Europe, the sciroxx i found its not good, and its fake.... i have used sciroxx when i used to live in Canada, coming from the us, and that sciroxx was good, nothing compared to the crap here in Europe, all i see is fakes... in my opinion, If you getting your product from Europe, be really careful

**JWP806** · 01-18-2013, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yes. They're great.

x2. Currently running Sciroxx cyp and tren ace. I've also ran their enth and deca . Outstanding results.

**Myron Gains** · 01-18-2013, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by snowman

not sure where you guys are from, but i said this before ,and i will say it again... here in Europe, the sciroxx i found its not good, and its fake.... i have used sciroxx when i used to live in Canada, coming from the us, and that sciroxx was good, nothing compared to the crap here in Europe, all i see is fakes... in my opinion, If you getting your product from Europe, be really careful

I can say with confidence that my source operates out of Europe and that their Sciroxx is the real deal....

**stpete** · 01-18-2013, 03:56 PM

Sciroxx is good.

**bodybuilder** · 01-20-2013, 11:25 PM

One of the best ugl's out there.

**Wes201** · 01-25-2013, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yes. They're great.

But there seems to be many vendors of this name brand. When you say they are great, are you referring to domestic or oversees?

**tdoe11** · 02-23-2013, 11:32 PM

*real* sciroxx from sciroxx comes from Belgium. It's good. But there is some fakes. Their website has a section where you can vertify your stuff

**snowblowjoe** · 03-04-2013, 06:20 PM

As long as you order from their site you're okay right

**austinite** · 03-04-2013, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

As long as you order from their site you're okay right

they dont sell directly.

**< <Samson> >** · 03-04-2013, 10:11 PM

You can verify with Sciroxx that the source is an authorized reseller.

**snowblowjoe** · 03-04-2013, 11:37 PM

Austinite yes they do. I've ordered from Karl if you email them Karl will be the 1 that probably gets back to you

**alex_schwarzenegger** · 03-18-2013, 11:35 AM

Anyone know about euro********?

**Scigen** · 04-01-2013, 11:35 PM

I can say with confidence that my source operates out of Europe and that their Sciroxx is the real deal....

How can one define the "real deal" when talking about underground labs? ANYONE with access to internet can set up a lab.

Do you think that any of the ug labs have any form of certification or quality control? Or their owners the KNOWLEDGE to enforce themselves a level of standards? There is a reason one needs millions in capital and much more so in human resources to set up a pharmaceutical company that is actually eligible for authority approval i.e. producing a product with consistent quality and no fluctuations in any of its parameters.

And even if the sciroxx guys or the BD or anyone is meticulous and tries to maintain something akin to a proper aseptic and standardized procedure how would they go about testing the quality of their raw material? Pharmaceuticals have in house facilities for sample testing, its nigh impossible for someone without huge funds and a proper chemical engineer to work a GC/MS and bio cultures...

So my advice as an actual producer is this: Go with what works, not by "authenticity", there is no such thing. Most european sciroxx is not the "original" one. Problem is (and the guys are competitors!) they are better, they come from a country with more lax standards of raw material control...

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Scigen

How can one define the "real deal" when talking about underground labs? ANYONE with access to internet can set up a lab.

Do you think that any of the ug labs have any form of certification or quality control? Or their owners the KNOWLEDGE to enforce themselves a level of standards? There is a reason one needs millions in capital and much more so in human resources to set up a pharmaceutical company that is actually eligible for authority approval i.e. producing a product with consistent quality and no fluctuations in any of its parameters.

And even if the sciroxx guys or the BD or anyone is meticulous and tries to maintain something akin to a proper aseptic and standardized procedure how would they go about testing the quality of their raw material? Pharmaceuticals have in house facilities for sample testing, its nigh impossible for someone without huge funds and a proper chemical engineer to work a GC/MS and bio cultures...

So my advice as an actual producer is this: Go with what works, not by "authenticity", there is no such thing. Most european sciroxx is not the "original" one. Problem is (and the guys are competitors!) they are better, they come from a country with more lax standards of raw material control...

I have no idea what are you talking about!!!! Real deal about a ugl is not about authenticity of their raw material, is about being faked from another source and not really the ugl who makes sciroxx. Thats the whole point of this thread to see if the gear is legit and you will get what you paid for. We are not here to go into chemistry. You have a point but is besides the point. You are talking about something totally different here my friend. I suggest you read on the whole thing first to understand and give a proper answer to the question!!!

A lot of UGLs are legit (they sell quality products) not compared ever to pharm grade obviously for the reasons you stated but those ugls since they have quality products they most of the time get counterfeited by other ugls who are trying to make a quick buck by selling bunk gear.

**Scigen** · 04-02-2013, 05:07 PM

Real deal about a ugl is not about authenticity of their raw material, is about being faked from another source and not really the ugl who makes sciroxx. Thats the whole point of this thread to see if the gear is legit and you will get what you paid for.

And what difference would that make? Say your sciroxx is actually sciroxx. Then what? Even the most well intentioned UG lab owner does not have the means, man power, knowledge and equipment to actually make a difference in the quality of the product.

He is still bound by the quality of the chinese guy that sends the raws and the sub par, clandestine methods used to manufacture everything. He can not have GC/MS running samples of raws and finished product, does not have different lines of production for different products, does not have wet granulators and random sampling tablet hardness equipment.

So in the end, he takes some raw hormone from china more in hope than in expectation, mixes it with BA, BB and oil, filters through a 0.22 filter and sticks a pretty label on it.

My point is this: Brand name in the UG world has no weight or meaning, what you want is good references and actual use. What most here would call trust your source.

If anything a copy cat lab would have more funds to devote to good manufacturing procedures instead of fancy labels.

**panntastic** · 04-03-2013, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Scigen

And what difference would that make? Say your sciroxx is actually sciroxx. Then what? Even the most well intentioned UG lab owner does not have the means, man power, knowledge and equipment to actually make a difference in the quality of the product.

He is still bound by the quality of the chinese guy that sends the raws and the sub par, clandestine methods used to manufacture everything. He can not have GC/MS running samples of raws and finished product, does not have different lines of production for different products, does not have wet granulators and random sampling tablet hardness equipment.

So in the end, he takes some raw hormone from china more in hope than in expectation, mixes it with BA, BB and oil, filters through a 0.22 filter and sticks a pretty label on it.

My point is this: Brand name in the UG world has no weight or meaning, what you want is good references and actual use. What most here would call trust your source.

If anything a copy cat lab would have more funds to devote to good manufacturing procedures instead of fancy labels.

I'm calling you out here and now
You run your own lab don't you
I've read your previous posts and to me having your labs name as your username isn't good.
If your here to sell your homebrew then you can go now as we aren't that sort of website

**stpete** · 04-03-2013, 01:36 AM

Interesting...

**panntastic** · 04-03-2013, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by stpete

Interesting...

Have a read of his posts Pete he's definitely linked to SCIGEN brand
I've mentioned it to Marcus

**Scigen** · 04-03-2013, 08:44 AM

I'm calling you out here and now
You run your own lab don't you
I've read your previous posts and to me having your labs name as your username isn't good.
If your here to sell your homebrew then you can go now as we aren't that sort of website

I didnt hide it, actually my first post was on the thread with the scigen typo (the thestogen thing). A moderator deleted the post and told me that it was bordering on sourcing.

Which is NOT my intention. You can ask the moderator for my pm reply.

I will not, via the web or otherwise, i just wanted to share some "insider", journalistic type of information on the UG scene.

I was actually very surprised to find that a scigen product found its way here, and somewhat alarmed to be honest.

In any case, im not in the business per se any more, ive moved on. Im here for the info and the fun.

I thought that was obvious by the fact that I'm saying that the best an UG lab can do is quite far removed from any pharmaceutical product (I've worked in both types of industry). Is that advertising?:P

Anyway, back to the point, ug labs, even scirox are based on marketing and good intentions, EVERYONE is dependant on the quality of raw material which is dubious to say the least, so what you buy has a degree of uncertainty and previous or shared experience goes much further than a prety label or recognizable brand.

Interesting...

no, it quite mundane:P

**Wes201** · 04-03-2013, 11:47 PM

Somehow this thread turned into something way off from what op intended which was a very simple question "if anyone can say if sciroxx is legit or not".......Well op, to respond to that, yes. Sciroxx is a good quality ugl. But there is more then one ugl claiming to be distributing sciroxx products, so that is something to beware of. If geeting the gear straight fron sciroxx themselves then gtg. As far as anyone else with a different name claiming to carry sciroxx, well your guess is as good as mine. Its a roll of the dice bro. On another note, sciroxx is gtg, however imho, a little to pricey for ugl as there are many more ugls out there with more competative prices but that is all i can or will say about that as this board does not allow us to get into any specifics on pricing.....Just my .02

**blue28** · 04-06-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Scigen

I didnt hide it, actually my first post was on the thread with the scigen typo (the thestogen thing). A moderator deleted the post and told me that it was bordering on sourcing.

Which is NOT my intention. You can ask the moderator for my pm reply.

I will not, via the web or otherwise, i just wanted to share some "insider", journalistic type of information on the UG scene.

I was actually very surprised to find that a scigen product found its way here, and somewhat alarmed to be honest.

In any case, im not in the business per se any more, ive moved on. Im here for the info and the fun.

I thought that was obvious by the fact that I'm saying that the best an UG lab can do is quite far removed from any pharmaceutical product (I've worked in both types of industry). Is that advertising?:P

Anyway, back to the point, ug labs, even scirox are based on marketing and good intentions, EVERYONE is dependant on the quality of raw material which is dubious to say the least, so what you buy has a degree of uncertainty and previous or shared experience goes much further than a prety label or recognizable brand.

no, it quite mundane:P

Can I ask why you was somewhat alarmed?

**Scigen** · 04-07-2013, 01:18 AM

Because of the unwanted attention, i though i had some control over where goes what. Apparently i don't:P I left that type of business for something else some time ago so it was kind of peculiar given that i wasnt actively searching for new markets.

**JSumma** · 04-07-2013, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Austinite yes they do. I've ordered from Karl if you email them Karl will be the 1 that probably gets back to you

Are we talking about either of the two sites?

**XxAndreaxX** · 04-13-2013, 06:43 AM

I'm thinking about try some sciroxx stuff, but I'm in europe.
so if I order from their backup page, could I get some fakes by selecting Europa domestic for shipping??