chemical muscle purity?

**JCFobsession** · 09-14-2013, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

You should clean that bathroom. Nasty stains.

Haaa the lighting is off, its cleaned mon-Fri

Annyyywhooooo lets focus on the point of providing picture to what it looks like and it's purity.

**testluva** · 09-14-2013, 12:46 AM

After my last cycle break I personally tried CM testP. Did 100mg on Friday and Sunday. Did BW on Monday morning. Labs came back 2,230 on my total T. I also have personally used the TNE75 one hour preWorkout and have the best training workouts when adding it to my cycle. I'm 51 years old and have been on HRT for over two years. CM is clean and very little to no PIP. I have also used CM liquid Cialis at 5mg twice a day. My primary reason was to lower my blood pressure and help control my prostate as recommended by my Urologist. BP went from an average of 155/80 to 115/68. Also my friends are currently on CM Anavar and are getting great results on it. Again this is my personal experience with CM. To me Unless you have a personal beef with a UGL you should keep comments to yourself and not bash a reputable UGL if there keeping customers happy. Keep up the good work Erik.

**marcus300** · 09-14-2013, 12:46 AM

I won't be posting members private pm's. I've been told by various members who are not willing to go on the open board due to loads of active reps operating and pushing CM. Various complaints of dirty unsterile gear, fake, and one who is being treated for an abscess.

If your happy with their gear keep on using it. Take the advice or leave it guys your risk.

Best of luck

**pasha** · 09-14-2013, 12:48 AM

my last cycle i ran CM and was planing on running it again.. i had a good cycle, we all know its good quality gear, it works... but the purity.. i dont know.. if its dirty gear i would think someone would have had a infection or something.. it would be good to know whats really going on... i have another cycle of CM gear, just dont know if i should toss it out or keep it..

**austinite** · 09-14-2013, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

After my last cycle break I personally tried CM testP. Did 100mg on Friday and Sunday. Did BW on Monday morning. Labs came back 2,230 on my total T. I also have personally used the TNE75 one hour preWorkout and have the best training workouts when adding it to my cycle. I'm 51 years old and have been on HRT for over two years. CM is clean and very little to no PIP. I have also used CM liquid Cialis at 5mg twice a day. My primary reason was to lower my blood pressure and help control my prostate as recommended by my Urologist. BP went from an average of 155/80 to 115/68. Also my friends are currently on CM Anavar and are getting great results on it. Again this is my personal experience with CM. To me Unless you have a personal beef with a UGL you should keep comments to yourself and not bash a reputable UGL if there keeping customers happy.

2230 from a pair of 100mg prop shots? Did I read that right?

**testluva** · 09-14-2013, 12:53 AM

Yup PM me your fax or email address and I'll send you my labs. I have nothing to hide.

**austinite** · 09-14-2013, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

Yup PM me your fax or email address and I'll send you my labs. I have nothing to hide.

Labs don't mean anything really. What was your level when you started? I can only assume over 1650?

**testluva** · 09-14-2013, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Labs don't mean anything really. What was your level when you started? I can only assume over 1650?

Labs don't mean anything? Really? Please explain your quote above for the audience.

**austinite** · 09-14-2013, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

Labs don't mean anything? Really? Please explain your quote above for the audience.

They don't tell me how much you've injected. What was your test level prior to cycle, and if you're on TRT, what's your protocol and where does it place you?

**testluva** · 09-14-2013, 01:04 AM

Wow ok now I see your attacking my personal experience on a product and want me to disclose my protocols in public. Why are you personally attacking me in a public forum for sharing my experience. I'm not some punk kid on a cycle. Why do you have so many pictures of Dana Lynn Bailey? If your a HRT specialist and in the medical profession you should respect others a little better. Especially older people.

**austinite** · 09-14-2013, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

Wow ok now I see your attacking my personal experience on a product and want me to disclose my protocols in public. Why are you personally attacking me in a public forum for sharing my experience. I'm not some punk kid on a cycle. Why do you have so many pictures of Dana Lynn Bailey?

Why are you so defensive? You posted your results, and I was curious. That is all. No need to get angry.

Protocols are private? We all share protocols: http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...-protocol.html - If you don't want to, just say so man, I'm ok with that.

If you don't want to share, that's fine man. Calm down, they're just questions.

**austinite** · 09-14-2013, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by testluva

If your a HRT specialist and in the medical profession you should respect others a little better. Especially older people.

I see you edited and added to your post. How have I disrespected you? By being curious?

By the way, respect is earned, it doesn't come with age. And frankly, I was very respectful. In fact, you were very rude to me. Read back what we conversed and you'll see how belligerent you became.

**marcus300** · 09-14-2013, 02:27 AM

There's no need for any arguments guys. Facts are this is how ugls work. You will get good reviews and you will get bad reviews but without doubt most ugls will get mixed reviews. A lot are reps or people who are paid in gear to push certain labs.

What ugls do is sell a lot of underdosed gear aswell as overdosed gear, sometimes they will sell you a mix selection so you don't know what's real or bunk. I can also guarantee that some of these so called labs are in someone's kitchen and produced in unsterile conditions.
Take no notice of fancy Web sites even the best have turned bad.

This isn't something new this is old news and how these ugls operate but once bad reviews start coming through its obvious what's happening. Now you can carry on buying and risking dirty underdosed fake gear or find another lab. It's your choice but there is no need to argue because with every Ugl there is mixed reviews. It's the black market so you got to except you could run the risk.

Cm can't be trusted that's clear from what I've been told and it's not just once. .

Now either carry on injecting their oils or don't, doesn't bother me but I've warned you.

Best of luck

No need to keep going around in circles. Make your own mind up and let's leave it at that.

Thanks

**crazy mike** · 09-14-2013, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by brazuka

I am currently using chemical muscle and into my first week. Running their test E and liquid dbol , it's been 5 days and so far I am up roughly 6lbs (I attribute this to the dbol being legit hence the water weight early on). My strength and recovery have increased a pretty good amount already. The PIP I get is about 3 to 4 on a scale of 10 being the most pain (Although I may be experiencing this slight discomfort because I front loaded my first two shots with a 25g needle so my hands were not 100% still when injecting). My order arrived within 2 days of making payment and was very well air-tight sealed, and the communication I had with the owner was excellent. Up to this point I am very satisfied with everything and have not heard anybody say one bad thing about chemical muscle besides marcus.

So marcus if you are reading this I want to let you know that in no way is this calling you out or attacking you in any way. We all have a lot of respect for you this is the reason why despite only hearing good things about them we definitely have our concerns when you say it is dirty gear and garbage. You see we would all like to take your word for it however many of us have invested in chemical muscle or have been using them for months with great results. If money was not involved and I and others did not already order from them already your posts would have me 100% staying clear of them because we do trust your word. But for us who have spent money and have a stock and investment in them we would like to know why you say these things about the lab. Because if the gear really is dirty and garbage I would be more than glad to throw out all of my stock and say this isn't worth the money. But that's not the case here I have not heard from anybody else anything bad about this lab and people who have been using them for months seem to be satisfied so this is where it is tough for all of us.

Again I would like to say that in no way is this a personal call out or attacking you, just want to show our perspective on things. Because your word here is like us looking up to a role model, we respect it. Just wanting some elaboration on the whole situation and if I have broken any rules please PM me so I can edit this post or remove it all together. Thanks

^^^ I agree with this post and want to say to you Marcus I feel the same. I came ungled at this whole thing and was not disrespecting you. I could of directed all my posts to you but it wasn't about you. It was the principal.

I believe now that indirectly the Question has been answered. And that should be the end of this concern and direct discussion.

Everyone has heard many different opinions and experience and can make their own decision. FOR THIS THREAD Op has gotten his advise and more. The Cm question has been given fair review and this should suffice. Investigate more guys if you please, and report anything if you feel you need because that's what we do here, we share the good the bad and the ugly and or the Ugl's.

For me, I'm satisfied and hope everyone else is. I thank you Marcus for a clarification of your stand and knowledge now being straight forward.

With that being said I think we should stop all the fuss and carry with posting JUST straight forward personal experience with , well at least CM gear. The end.

...crazy mike