Are All UGLs a Scam?

**GreyHemi** · 03-01-2016, 05:42 PM

I have been very fortunate with the UGLs that I have used. Every blend of test I have used comes back in blood tests as so high it's unreadable. The deca I have used, that's harder to measure than testosterone because there is no blood test.............. But the deca from dear departed source (it was known as 2 letters of the alphabet) was fantastic for my joints aches and pains.

Not all UGLs are crap. It's pot luck and you gotta get blood labs to see if it's real or not. Every time you start a new bottle of test on a cycle, get your labs. If you are going to pay for the gear, then pay the $100 for insurance that it is real.

Now then, just because you bought testosterone dosed at 300mg/ml and you inject and get your labs and its off the chart, does that mean it's 300mg and not 200mg? No. I'm sure there is a lot of under dosing going on, but you have to get labs to see if you're wasting your time or not with the gear you're using.

**Mp859** · 03-01-2016, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by GreyHemi

I have been very fortunate with the UGLs that I have used. Every blend of test I have used comes back in blood tests as so high it's unreadable. The deca I have used, that's harder to measure than testosterone because there is no blood test.............. But the deca from dear departed source (it was known as 2 letters of the alphabet) was fantastic for my joints aches and pains. Not all UGLs are crap. It's pot luck and you gotta get blood labs to see if it's real or not. Every time you start a new bottle of test on a cycle, get your labs. If you are going to pay for the gear, then pay the $100 for insurance that it is real. Now then, just because you bought testosterone dosed at 300mg/ml and you inject and get your labs and its off the chart, does that mean it's 300mg and not 200mg? No. I'm sure there is a lot of under dosing going on, but you have to get labs to see if you're wasting your time or not with the gear you're using.

You can read the testosterone level regardless of how high it is. Just use quest instead, their reading doesn't stop at 1500. They use a different testing method and without looking at my notes I can't remember what it is called.

**mike198** · 03-01-2016, 10:04 PM

Anybody ever try Unigen? Human grade apparently. I've been spending quite a bit of money on my prescribed gear through an anti aging clinic. Trying to find human grade stuff elsewhere to ease the budget

**Easyroller** · 03-05-2016, 03:59 PM

Ive made solid gains using UGL's but would I use UGL if i had acess to Real Pharma stuff, No.

**Bonaparte** · 03-06-2016, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by mike198

Anybody ever try Unigen? Human grade apparently. I've been spending quite a bit of money on my prescribed gear through an anti aging clinic. Trying to find human grade stuff elsewhere to ease the budget

That's a Thai "pharma company", so essentially a fancy UGL.

**Logical1** · 04-16-2016, 09:41 PM

Does anyone have any experience with Alpha Pro Labs?
I have a nice opportunity to grab some gear but they are an UGL and I'm just a little lacking in the confidence dept. you know the deal, ask 500 different people and you will get 500 different answers...
Thanks Logical1

**jstone** · 04-17-2016, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Mp859

You can read the testosterone level regardless of how high it is. Just use quest instead, their reading doesn't stop at 1500. They use a different testing method and without looking at my notes I can't remember what it is called.

You can get this test done through labcorp as well. You just need to make sure the test you get says LC/MS. Which means they test your blood with a liquid chromatography/mass spectrometry. This test will give you the actual number.