Are All UGLs a Scam?

[4drol]

What do you guys think of Geneza pharm are these guys considered pharm grade or HG?

[Strongblood]

The brands Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma, Procom, Vermogi and a few more I can't recall now. Are they considered Pharmacy grade?

[ghettoboyd]

The brands Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma, Procom, Vermogi and a few more I can't recall now. Are they considered Pharmacy grade?

no they are all ugl, some may be of good quality but unless it comes from a licensed pharmaceutical company then no....

[Strongblood]

Thank you GettoBoyd. That's kind of what I thought.

[NumLock]

Well, my answer is - not all ugls are scam.
There are some that I've been using for years, and pretty happy with them.

[NumLock]

The brands Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma, Procom, Vermogi and a few more I can't recall now. Are they considered Pharmacy grade?

Wow, I do love Vermodje!

[noon]

I believe that over time all UGL will turn do to one reason or another.
Some are just systematic scammers.
Be safe every one
Go with your gut if it seems off or has floaters or what all toss it

[Mr.Anderson]

The brands Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma, Procom, Vermogi and a few more I can't recall now. Are they considered Pharmacy grade?

Ugls, but decent ugls. have been using them with no problems.

[LEO78]

The brands Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma, Procom, Vermogi and a few more I can't recall now. Are they considered Pharmacy grade?

These brands are all UGLs, though some of them (vermodje, kalpa, geneza) are of great quality.

[ggerman]

Have been using Ugls mostly (Radjay, Sp, Dragonpharm, Vermodje) and will keep on doing this.

[ggerman]

What do you guys think of Geneza pharm are these guys considered pharm grade or HG?

UGL. Not a bad one though.

[Nick147]

Have been using Ugls mostly (Radjay, Sp, Dragonpharm, Vermodje) and will keep on doing this.

So am I. I trust these Ugls.

[Mr.Anderson]

There are a lot of decent ugls : Kalpa, vermodje, balkan. good source is vital.

[JohnnyKirk]

The brands Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma, Procom, Vermogi and a few more I can't recall now. Are they considered Pharmacy grade?

They are not pharmacy grade, UGLs but gtg especially Vermodje, Kapla.
I would add Alpha, Rajay, Balkan, Sp Labs errrr..... Cannot recall more for now.

[BG]

If you guys look up most of these guys that posted in here and have less then 500 post they are reps for ugls. Look up all their post. All the same, vermoje, kalpa very good.

[BG]

They just sit in this part of the forum and wait for these questions.

[jstone]

All ugls will go bad at one point or another. BG is right about the reps here. You dont ever see this group of members anywhere else, they just spam this section with vermo is the best, I love me some vermo. Its one thing to rep a lab on a source board, but this is not the place.

[DrewZ]

Have had great gear from an online UGL source, have had poorly dosed gear from online source.

Its really disappointing finding out 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle you're using underdosed sh1t.

It's a crap shoot, total gamble if it isnt coming from a pharmacy.

[ruiner_]

They most certainly aren't. I don't have many 'sources' but the lab I have ran is decent.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Is there such a thing as pharma tren or methyl tren?

I didn't think it was considered to have medical purpose for humans.

[ghettoboyd]

Is there such a thing as pharma tren or methyl tren?

I didn't think it was considered to have medical purpose for humans.

hi, no there are no pharm grade tren for humans as its all made by ugls...methyl tren is oral tren but again made by ugl...

[TheTaxMan]

If you guys look up most of these guys that posted in here and have less then 500 post they are reps for ugls. Look up all their post. All the same, vermoje, kalpa very good.

Great call BG.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

hi, no there are no pharm grade tren for humans as its all made by ugls...methyl tren is oral tren but again made by ugl...

Yeah, I know methyl tren is the oral version. I just wondered if anyone made a pharmaceutical grade version of it. I guess I kinda worded that wrong. Thanks for the answer though.

[jstone]

Yeah, I know methyl tren is the oral version. I just wondered if anyone made a pharmaceutical grade version of it. I guess I kinda worded that wrong. Thanks for the answer though.

There used to be pharmaceutical grade tren , it was tren hex (parabolan ). I beleive the parabolan came from a french pharmecutical company called Negma. You wont be able to find it anymore, but it was very popular.

[Trapology]

You kinda gotta understand what youre getting into before you sit and criticize the way people do things and handle their business online
As much of a business some people try to make this its illegal and most guys just do what they can to get by. Using gear and keeping in shape is a life style and comes with it is a lot of trail and error and that comes with bouncing around and trying different sources.

So no they arnt all scams, not even close. But there comes a point you need to just take the dive and give it a shot. If the results arnt what you want then skip over to another brand next time. If you get scammed unfortunately that happens but just recoop and move on

Im new here to this board but ive been on many others for 10+ years, you just have to give something a shot and roll with the punches as they come along.

[jstone]

You kinda gotta understand what youre getting into before you sit and criticize the way people do things and handle their business online
As much of a business some people try to make this its illegal and most guys just do what they can to get by. Using gear and keeping in shape is a life style and comes with it is a lot of trail and error and that comes with bouncing around and trying different sources.

So no they arnt all scams, not even close. But there comes a point you need to just take the dive and give it a shot. If the results arnt what you want then skip over to another brand next time. If you get scammed unfortunately that happens but just recoop and move on

Im new here to this board but ive been on many others for 10+ years, you just have to give something a shot and roll with the punches as they come along.

I agree with all of this. The one thing I hate is at one point or another even the good ones go bad, or get busted. Very rarely will a good legit source retire, and never intentionally screw anybody over.

The main point from your statement is this shit is illegal. People act like they're ordering creatine from an online supplement store.

Every time you order your taking a gamble. Just be smart.

[Juced_porkchop]

CoA's are worthless in this industry, since anyone could fake the results. Especially if the samples are sent in by the company selling the gear.

pretty much what I was going to say also

[< <Samson> >]

All the online review shit might as well not count

According to "online" info means nothing


Specially since everything from potency to sterility can vary from batch to batch.

[jonny2x4]

no they are all ugl, some may be of good quality but unless it comes from a licensed pharmaceutical company then no....

Agreed, these are grt ugls (Vermodje, Kalpa, Geneza, Dragon Pharma) if taken from a reliable source.

[michael30]

I don't think the results are legit... at all. It claims to be crowd funded and has something like 100 results up. The problem is, that's $50,000. Anyone who has *ever* dealt with a "donation" feature, knows you are not getting 50,000 in donations... probably ever. This site is obscure. It has a PR of 0 and it's mentioned *anywhere* on Google only 917 times. How does something with 900 mentions and a PR of 0, get $50,000 in "donations"?

Not possible. Pure faked results, period. This ain't Wedinos 2.0

This site is connected to an entire bodybuilding forum that I'm also a member of. 90% of the donations come from that forum. Anaboliclabs was set up by the site owner known as Millard Baker. Vets will know who I'm talking about

[Osprey]

I've never tried pharm-grade products since they are not available, have been always using UGLs, and I cannot compare these two. The ugl's i've tried were not scams (at least i hope so), so i guess i'll stick to them (balkan, vermodj, alpha)...

[Trevis]

I've never tried pharm-grade products since they are not available, have been always using UGLs, and I cannot compare these two. The ugl's i've tried were not scams (at least i hope so), so i guess i'll stick to them (balkan, vermodj, alpha)...

Always had good gains with the ugls listed.

[< <Samson> >]

Always had good gains with the ugls listed.

Of course


enter eye rolling smiley here

[Fabius Camillus]

I've never tried pharm-grade products since they are not available, have been always using UGLs, and I cannot compare these two. The ugl's i've tried were not scams (at least i hope so), so i guess i'll stick to them (balkan, vermodj, alpha)...

You never can tell. When I was hitting my lab hard I did it like a pharmacy company. Pumps fume hoods spinners vac ovens. Had about 20 grand in lab equipment to make sure my guys had good high end Russian raws that were sterile.

[< <Samson> >]

You never can tell. When I was hitting my lab hard I did it like a pharmacy company. Pumps fume hoods spinners vac ovens. Had about 20 grand in lab equipment to make sure my guys had good high end Russian raws that were sterile.

Ummm, wtf?


yeah

[NACH3]

You never can tell. When I was hitting my lab hard I did it like a pharmacy company. Pumps fume hoods spinners vac ovens. Had about 20 grand in lab equipment to make sure my guys had good high end Russian raws that were sterile.

Classic 2nd post! What's the question?? Lol

[NACH3]

Of course


enter eye rolling smiley here

I believe BG NAILED IT! All these guys are just reps they list the same bullsh!t all day erryday - all you hear is them saying Vermo(the big one here among these guys), Balkan, Alhpa pharma(which I've never used any of them(yet) - But have only heard good things) but he'll so does every UGL listed it seems

[Mp859]

I believe BG NAILED IT! All these guys are just reps they list the same bullsh!t all day erryday - all you hear is them saying Vermo(the big one here among these guys), Balkan, Alhpa pharma(which I've never used any of them(yet) - But have only heard good things) but he'll so does every UGL listed it seems

alpha pharma is horribly underdosed man.


It has been tested and shown to be underdosed ugl crap but they say it is pharma

[NACH3]

alpha pharma is horribly underdosed man.


It has been tested and shown to be underdosed ugl crap but they say it is pharma

Thanks for the heads up Mp859! Just judging by our 'reps' you'd think its overdosed

Thx much, have to appreciate good ole honesty!

[< <Samson> >]

alpha pharma is horribly underdosed man.


It has been tested and shown to be underdosed ugl crap but they say it is pharma

Dude - it has the name farma in its name


LoL


Oh UGL crap


I swear there is a new UGL every week & each one is the bestest one ever

All this vermog & watever the fvck - they just pop out of nowhere. . . . I swear it's all one dump making crap with dif names. For the most part at least. . . . it's y I use small UGL shit that no one ever really hears of. Or, one day just brew my own. . . But, the small UGL's have been good to me for the most part.