Cycles for the Newbie

[Montgomery]

The last two cycles are test enan/winny, and test cyp/winny. Why isn't there a prop/winny cycle? That's one I've thought of running.

Montgomery

[icedudez]

is the L.dex ed needed?

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[almostgone]

is the L.dex ed needed?

....Icedudez, without l-dex, I tend to retain some water....I agree with MM, I like to run a SERM and an A.I......
....I'd suggest hitting the PCT forum and the steroid profiles and research SERM, A-I, Nolvadex , Anastrozole, and Letrozole (Femara) and then you can make a decision based on your conclusions......

Good luck,
AG

[almostgone]

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[almostgone]

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[Testostack]

Awesome post MudMan, really .......That should be mandatory for newbies to read it before even considering a cycle of anything.........10 thumbs up!!

[Testostack]

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Just wanted to be sure.......
i'm a slow learner too , that'd make for my Test e only cycle:

Week 1,2: Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25mg ED
Week 3 - 12: 500mg Test E, Nolva 10mg ED, L-dex .25 ED.
Week 14: PCT

PCT:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

I don't want Clomid!! what could i replace it with?
And what about proviron ? heard that it works great w/ test.......should i use it and when?
Thx though for your post.

[Papi93]

Glad to have you on this site, Mudman. I would be lost without your advice. Can one use Liquidex while off-cycle as a natural test booster. It's being highly recommended by the supplement gurus. I was thinking it would be better to go with trib and tongkat because I will be using for my next cycle and PCT. It would only be used for only 4 weeks off-cycle, though. What are you thoughts?

[Papi93]

Sorry about that, here is what the cycle looks like:

Cycle-
1 – 12 Test E 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolva 10mg ED
1 – 12 Liquidex .25mg ED

PCT 2 weeks after last test e injection.

PCT-
1-4 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg Liquidex

[Testostack]

Sorry about that, here is what the cycle looks like:

Cycle-
1 – 12 Test E 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolva 10mg ED
1 – 12 Liquidex .25mg ED

PCT 2 weeks after last test e injection.

PCT-
1-4 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg Liquidex

Looks like we're in the same boat dude!
Except that i don't want Clomid and that for Test e only cycle MudMan said Tribulus would do the trick. If so, that'd be much easier to get than HCG /Clomid

[zomzom]

Nice post, i am thinking to use the Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 Proviron .25mg ED orAromasin; i think to use Aromasin because it has good effects for a pre contest, hardness and others.. I like to be in sharpe with a nice definition.

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose
for my first cycle.

Before to discover "The cycle for newbies" i was searching a nice lean mass builder without testo because i am scared about the fat free that would take many months before to re give me a lean built, i had found into the Anabolics2005 from WILLIAM LLEWELLYN a good "Beginner stack" without test, according to my objectives "Increase my overall lean mass but don t build up my muscle with a Fat Free."
I had choosen this cycle:

1-10 Deca 200mg/week during 10weeks
2-11 Proviron 50mg ED during 10weeks
4-11 Winny 20mg ED during 7weeks

1-I was thinking to increase the Deca to 400mg during the week 5-10 "yes it is crazy probably"
2-For the PCT i will use HCG for 3-4weeks of course "less crazy" and Clomid.

What do you think according to your experience and knowledge "Beginner stack is inside the Anabolics2005"?

[zomzom]

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[Bulkcut]

cycle 11 defenatly
i am going to add winny
Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED
Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

This is probably a really really stupid question but i am still researching
What is L-Dex? is that Letro or Armidex?
or something else?
i feel like a dumb ass asking but better be sure then not ask

[Im C murda]

word mudman

[aletnem]

hey man thanks for the info im also a newbie always looking for great threads to read and i would have to say that this one has helped me allot..... and saved me some time searching endless threads for this one post ,,,,, so from all the newbies thanks bro !!!!!

[TheMudMan]

cycle 11 defenatly
i am going to add winny
Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED
Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

This is probably a really really stupid question but i am still researching
What is L-Dex? is that Letro or Armidex?
or something else?
i feel like a dumb ass asking but better be sure then not ask

Sorry haven't seen this thread in a long time.......

L-dex also known as arimidex or liquidex is an AI like Letro (Femera)..... so they are from the same class of chemicals but different. Letro is a bit stronger than L-dex. So it does work better at stopping aromatization (up to 98%) but with it comes a price. A lot of guys using Letro will complain that a side effect that they get is low or no sex drive.

[Im C murda]

helped me out alot, is 25 mg proviron ed enough to run with 10mg nolva?

[TheMudMan]

helped me out alot, is 25 mg proviron ed enough to run with 10mg nolva?

Yes, that would work.

[*Narkissos*]

guess what Mud?
Bump!

Maybe i should sticky this...hm

[kloter1]

POST MASTER I AM SIGN IN AS THE WRONG PERSON AND HAD SOME QUESTIONS! PLEASE CONTACT ME AT: [email protected] THANKS B

OR Another "B" story thanks again

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bump for mudd. good post!!

[TheMudMan]

LOL....... that sure is a hijack

Thanks...... maybe we can get them to sticky it......... I don't want to do it since I made it LOL

[*Narkissos*]

I'll do it.. and clean up the hijacks... woot!

Stickied

[mikey86]

I recently started my first cycle ( noob ), 1ml of decca every 3 days. im just wondering whats a good cycle for me to go on after this one. I dont wana get extremely big, maybe to be like 160-165, im 140 right now. Someone told me i should take decca/testpropenate, but i was thinking about deca /dbol . can someone give me their opinion?

[eL FriJolerO]

Hey guys, what's up!? I'm new to this forum and to all the anabolic stuff, i just started this tuesday using test250 and Decandrol300. Now, i know you guys probably hate all the newb quiestions, cause they must seem pretty damn obvious to you. But mudman, you very much seem to know your shit, so i gotta ask you...I saw your Cycles for new comers and i was just blown away, that seems to be a whole lot more than what i'm taking, like i said, i'm only taking Test and Deca , 600mgs of each per week, will i see decent gains with this, or do i need to crank up the doses, or more Anabolics perhaps?????
Really appreciate the answer.

[Frostman]

I've never tried steroids before, but I plan on using here in a couple of days. The problem is I don't know much about the cycles. Can anyone please tell me how to start and how will I know the steroids I get are real???

[Kale]

Start a new thread , dont ask the question in here as nobody will look at it

[Iceman69]

I'm seeing links to Clomid, L-dex and Nolva which take me to the Anabolic Review site which has an "Add To Cart" feature for shopping.

Is this a kosher place to buy my PCT stuff?

[TheMudMan]

I'm seeing links to Clomid, L-dex and Nolva which take me to the Anabolic Review site which has an "Add To Cart" feature for shopping.

Is this a kosher place to buy my PCT stuff?

Yes..............

Also everyone do not post questions in this thread........ create a new one so that they will get the attention by everyone in that forum.

[Iceman69]

Thanks man, sorry to post the question here.

Will make sure my noobitry is in the appropriate places next time.

[BigJames]

I am glad that this is a sticky now. All newbies should read this before they even start asking what they should take or how much they should take or if they should drink winny...

[FromTheWimbo]

thanks

[msu16366]

Great post, now insted of trying to explain everything to curious friends I can just point them to this thread. Great job

[spartus1]

I have been reading for months and have gotten a pretty good understanding on basic cycles. I just joined today. I need advise on what direction to go now.

I have two weeks left on my first 12 week cycle.

I am 6"2" 47 YRS old, (Much younger than my years) weight 240, 20.5 % BF, I have been weight lifting for 15 years. I started my Cycle 12/4/05.

500 mg Entanate per week Sunday and Thursday 250 each.
20 MG Nolvadex ED
2 IU HGH ED 5AM 1 IU 4PM 1 IU
D-bols week 4 & 5 30 mg ED 6 doses
Vitimans Muti ED
Milk thistle 800 mg ED
200 mg B6 ED

I went from 210 to 240, 4,000 calories ED 400 grams protine ED, Good sleep good diet. Except some drinking on weekends.

My gold now is to drop 11 LBS of body fat and not lose too much of my gains going into my PCT. I would like to use some of the stuff that I have on hand to my benifit, I am nott 100% sure what would be best for me at this point.

Here's some of the stuff I have on hand.
HCH, HGH, Clen , T3, R3 IGF-1 Long, Proviron , Nolvadex, Clomed.

Could you guys give me a stack that you might recommend for an optimial PCT cycle.

I paln to hit cycle two after 12 weeks off. My second cycle will include Deca in the first four weeks but no D-bols.

Thanks for the time!

[Kale]

Start a new thread in this forum with your question and it will be answerd there

[youngbuck1001]

Hi,
i'm new at this so I need some help? I am 24, I'm 6'0, with about 5-6% bodyfat. I have played baseball my whole life so im in good shape. I just graduated from college and this is my first year without baseball. I feel like I'm losing it a little bit. I don't want to take any big roids or no needles. I received 220 tabs of Dball (pink) and I was told to take 1 a day for a week/3 a day for a week/5 a day for a week/8 a day for a week/5 day for a week?3 a day for a week/1 a day for a week. Is this any good? And when should i take them during the day? Should I split them up or take them all at once?

[cb25]

Hi,
i'm new at this so I need some help? I am 24, I'm 6'0, with about 5-6% bodyfat. I have played baseball my whole life so im in good shape. I just graduated from college and this is my first year without baseball. I feel like I'm losing it a little bit. I don't want to take any big roids or no needles. I received 220 tabs of Dball (pink) and I was told to take 1 a day for a week/3 a day for a week/5 a day for a week/8 a day for a week/5 day for a week?3 a day for a week/1 a day for a week. Is this any good? And when should i take them during the day? Should I split them up or take them all at once?

first of all man, welcome - you've come to the right place to learn about this stuff.

secondly, a dbol only cycle isn't a smart choice. there's a lot of info on this site in regards to why, all you have to do is read/search, etc.

again welcome man, but research a bit more before using anything so you know how to maximize your gains, and do it safely.

[Bashar]

** TRENBOLINE **

I have been working out for many years now and I would like to increase my mass and become more cut.
I am 26, weight is 175, and height is 5'9"

I have tried winny before but I would like something stronger.
I don't want to get too huge but get some mass.

THINKING ABOUT TAKING Tren ???
Any suggestions, cycle uses and side effect info???

Thanks
Bashar

[hellomycognomen]

Hello, I'm kind of new to steriods and I had a
question about the labels and what they mean. I have
two bottles. One is of Deca 300mg-10ml and the other
is Stanozolol 50mg-20ml. My question is on the
numbers does it mean that each ml contains the number
of mg or is the number of mg the total amount that is
in the bottle? This is kind of confusing for me. I
would appreciate if you could clairify this for me.
Thanks
Also do any of you think that Equpoise is better than Deca

[freezingsebastian]

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 2:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 3:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 4:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 5:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 6:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 7:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
11 – 12 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 8:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
11 – 13 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 9:
1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 10:
1 – 12 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 400mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 weeks after last Cyp / Enan injection

Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

Cycle 12:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
8 – 13 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose


I dont get this HELP!!!
what's L-dex??
those ed mean each day?
whats the 1-10 400mg/wk please explain thanx

[halfmanhalfamazing21]

Yep great post indeed. Dbol and Winny got me rolling my first time and i havent looked back.