Newbies this is for you

[dvldg]

Besides the obvious I've found the answer to every question so far simply by reading old threads. Thanks guys.

[digitalje5u5]

Great post.

[nygsxr1000]

i appreciate all of these sticky threads they are very useful

[eljugo16]

great post ron

[VickDMS2]

Hey guys, i'm not sure if i'm posting in the right spot, kind of new to this. I have never used any steroids before. I'm 236, 5' 9", 25 years old and got a decent build. I've read alot about winny but i can't seem to get a straight answer on it cause everyone says different things. I'm not looking to get bigger, i just want to cut up. I'm gonna start taking winny. My question is, should i start taking 50mg a day, being i havent taken any steroids before? And on my off days of working out should i still inject and continue to? And also how long should i do it for?

[frazer21]

hi ppl im 21 and just started out and i was wantin all the help from all you experience

[JackBauer]

thank you very much ron for that contribution.... very helpful....bump

[hotjocknsocks]

GREAT info guys. thanks from a newbie

[bowonly]

BEST POST I HAVE READ SO FAR... Thanks!

[mpi]

excellent

[BEAMERMAN]

this thread has answered alot of my questions

[pittie]

I've just started a cycle of Trenbolone Enanthate and I'm supposed to be mixing it 1ml to 1ml twice a week with B12. The thing is that the B12 wont mix beacause it's not an oil base. so it just sits in the middle of the tren .is this ok to inject anyway?

[pump.joe]

Bookmarked.

[dockery14]

i way 160 i have been working out for 4 years and i would like to have some personal advice what would be good to get started on. a friend told me tren would work but i read up and i learned that he was full of sh**. So any advice would be helpful

[h33_h33_h33]

ok so i made so many researches i wana start on a cycle.. however im quite desperate.. im 5 kilos above my normal weight.. the weight im suppose to be according to calculations.. i started working out almost a month ago heavy to warm up muscles.. do u think im ready to go on it? if i do what would the results be.. am i gonna gain weight rather than musles mass.. doesnt steroids burn fat too?? keep in mind im not aiming big.. just fit.. two substance testosron and winstrol .. 6 week cylce! just a push..

[personaltrainermark]

Keep up the good work. Thanks for the info.

[bowonly]

WOW.. interesting how the PCT recommendations has changed since this was originally posted...or has it?

[jmoose]

"I'm new and I'm looking for a good fist cycle"

Ok new guys this seems to be a big topic here so here is a post for you. First of all this is not a recipe just a guide line on what you should be researching. You need to learn about these substances in more depth than I will go into here. However, for the new member just coming to AR I think this will answer a lot of questions. If nothing else you will see that there is a lot of studying in your future and there is no quick way to cycle properly

1st cut vs bulk

A lot of people seem to feel you can both cut and bulk at the same time. Well I'm telling you right now to forget that idea. If your ready to start your journey down the dark path you should start it with a good old fashion bulking stack. Don't waist your first stack with a cutter. Save that for after you've gained some more size. If you feel like you need to cut, do it naturally before your first cycle.

Diet

This IMO is where most mistakes are made. I try to keep it somewhat clean while bulking but some of you worry way too much about what you eat. This causes many of you to not eat enough. I also think people need to get more carbs while bulking. I've seen many people trying to bulk on what I would consider a cutting diet.

For bulking I suggest high protein, med carbs and low fats. As a general rule I try to consume about 2 g of protein per lb daily while bulking although sometimes I don't get it all in. When I'm not bulking my carb intake is quite low so the boost in carbs gives me quite a treat.

Do some research before you start any Anabolic cycle on how your body reacts to certain diets. If you in an advanced enough stage to be using Anabolics you should already know how you reacts to diets and exactly how many calories you need to eat to accomplish the weight you are looking to acquire. Ask for diet help if you need it. There are many people on AR who know more about diet than I ever will.

Make sure you get a good multi-vit in the mix. Specially with low fat diets.

The Gear
The are many right and many wrong ways to do things here. There is no one magic formula for cycling. Many people do it many different ways. Many of those ways work well. Many don't. Things I may suggest others may say I'm way off base. I can only tell you what I have learned from experience. You have to make your own decisions for yourself

Its become a common thing that many vets here suggest a test only first cycle. Thats fine. I'm sure you'll get some good gains from it. I myself like a little more in the mix. Like I said test only is fine if you want to stop there.

The most coming thing to ad is deca . Yes its mild on the sides. Yes you get good gains. However, if you do chose deca it will mean that an anti estrogen alone will not prevent gyno 100%. Another substance such as bromo will be needed in case of progesterone related gyno. For this reason alone I suggest eq (Equipoise ). The gains are not quit as big but you will keep more of them and that sounds like a good trade off to me.

Dbol and other orals.
I know many of you would like to ad these to a first stack. I did and from experience let me tell you its not a good idea. The side effects are just too high. I was doubled over in bed from my the pains in my liver. Other have had pains from excessive back pumps to the point of missing workouts. trust me on this one save the orals till you know how your gonna react to a all injectable cycle it will make it easier

Doses

I suggest you run test at about 500mg. Some say thats over kill and 250mg is plenty first time around. For some maybe. I know for a fact for me it wouldn't have been enough. I upped my doses mid cycle from 400mg to 600mg before I got satisfactory results from my test. To me 500mg is in no way shape or form excessive.

For the eq or deca I would run it at 300-400mg. Ran mine at 400mg. I felt it had a great effect on me.

Other thing you need to be taking

Lots of water. I am not shitting you when I say on a cycle I drink 2+ gallons a day. I just drink it out of a 1 gallon jug. Hope you don't get in trouble at work for being in the bathroom every 15 min.

Anti estrogen. I personally take nolva though out the whole cycle @ 20mg. If I feel itchy or sore nipples I up it to 50mg till its gone. Then its back to 20mg. I run it till I'm done with my PCT (post cycle therapy ). Other good things to run with or instead of nolva liquadex, ferma, Arimidex . Read around you'll see a couple others. Nolva for me is simply cheap available and effective.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) I follow the idea that clomid alone is a perfectly fine PCT for most cycles. I will say for any kinda cycle your going to be doing here it is. The thing is you wanna start your clomid when the majority of the anabolics are out of your system. For that you need to know that test Enathate (which is the test I recommend you use right now) after 2 weeks will diminish enough to Begin PCT. For deca and eq it will be roughly 3 weeks. So you will simply end the eq/deca a week before the test.

The correct way to run clomid:
day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed (every day)
day 12-21 50 mg ed

Final thought

For the most part this is very general. I tried to keep it that way. I did not intend this to be a all you need to know about steroids by Ron type of thing. I do not have all the answers. There are many things to learn and I just wanted to give you a good step in the right direction. I have been on this board for years and all I have learned it has taught me. Still everyday I learn something new. Take your time. Read the threads. Read the educational forum. Ask questions. There are many very smart Bros on here. Take advantage of them. Steroids are not a quick fix like some people think. They are a drug you are putting into your body. Make sure before you do this you know what they are and what they will do to you.

Can anyone tell me how many vials I would need to buy of Deca and Test E along with how much nolva and clomid?

[Kale]

Can anyone tell me how many vials I would need to buy of Deca and Test E along with how much nolva and clomid?

Dude this is the wrong place to ask questions. You need to read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

[ralf_snake]

So i take it that test: is just plain Testosteron you take always as a basis?


''If you feel like you need to cut, do it naturally before your first cycle. ''

Q:I dont get it, so why is cutting naturally so important before your first cycle.

Q: Whats the deal with ''Growth plates''. What are they and why cant poeple cycle before 21 so those plates are matured.

[ralf_snake]

So i take it that test: is just plain Testosteron you take always as a basis?


''If you feel like you need to cut, do it naturally before your first cycle. ''

Q:I dont get it, so why is cutting naturally so important before your first cycle.

Q: Whats the deal with ''Growth plates''. What are they and why cant poeple cycle before 21 so those plates are matured.

Any help guys?

[deebeebee]

great post, very helpful 4 us newbs

[ab037]

excellent post ron. Helps me plan for my cycles

[ralf_snake]

Shit, really tell me, what is the big difference if someone start Steroids at 18 in stead of 21.

I know you could stop growing, but seriously what can be so bad for you that you should start at 21.

[beast300]

Great post. But you said you were taking nolva though out the whole cycle @ 20mg until done with pct. Where you taking 20mg every day?

[BG]

Just so you guys know, he wont be answering any questions.

[nvjon157]

height:6'2
weight:165
age:18
body fat:N/A
bench:150-180

I need some help im looking forward to getting big quick without having the bitch tits side effects but idk what to start off with im in pretty good shapy but i wanna get bigger and bulk up. i have been taking legal supplements for years and busting my ass working out and barely got no results out of it and it really aggrevates how bad of a hard gainer i am.can someone give me some advice thanks

[Kale]

height:6'2
weight:165
age:18
body fat:N/A
bench:150-180

I need some help im looking forward to getting big quick without having the bitch tits side effects but idk what to start off with im in pretty good shapy but i wanna get bigger and bulk up. i have been taking legal supplements for years and busting my ass working out and barely got no results out of it and it really aggrevates how bad of a hard gainer i am.can someone give me some advice thanks

My advice is go start a new thread here http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/ Your questions will not get answered in this post. Its an educational thread and its not meant for questions and answers

[tommy22587]

nice post helps out a lot

[Harvey]

Hi mate
Thanks for the info, I have just started getting into weights again
seriously this time, I train 4-5 days a week with 3 other guys, I am
pretty unhappy with my gains so far, I have been at it this time
for around 2 months, I am saving up to go on a course, I only want
to go on 1 course. The fellow that is going to be instructing us on
how to go about it said he has seen an average result of 20kg for
the course (12 weeks in total). I have to save up first as it is quite
expensive, I will not start the course for another 6 weeks just yet.
If you only have intentions of doing one course and you are happy
with the results, (I want to bulk up, but not huge and slim down
a little, which I can do on a diet and cardio after the course) but
am a little worried about any needle marks that it may leave
and the post treatment, I obviously need to find out exactly what
he will be supplying me with so I can do some research.

One thing I would like to know is, when I find out what the particular
drug I can get, (I am in Australia) can I post the particular type
in the Education section and get peoples feedback and thoughts
on it? Would that be breaking the board rules? I would hate to get
the boot, as there seems to be an amazing amount of knowledge on
this site?


Sorry for the long message

[DFresh1975]

while on gear can one train more than usual?
in other words, people often say that a day of rest following each day in the gym is necessarry. does this hold true while on gear? or does gear allow one to be able to train more often?

[Stuey289]

Hiya iv been training for 2yr now try'd different steroids . . . suss / test prop / anadrol 50mg / test ethernate / . I struggle very bad to put weight on and keeping it on is even harder ! I weigh 10st 6 ~ Please can anyone give advice on the best stack i should use to bulk up im aiming for 13st . Any advice will be appreciated thanks.

[stoned]

im 39 years old 5.9 in tall 200lbs been working out for 6 months hard carido an lifting is 250 sustamed enuf once a week for starters along with the androl once a day

[MercuryEvo]

def should be a sticky because its pretty simple

[Stickdrop]

hey ron ive been doing a lot of research and i just came across ur post. Help me out with this. im about to start my 1st cycle. its actually 1/2 cycle of testosterone cypionate . My connect tells me to do 1cc twice a week with no piramid. So i start and end with 1cc. and takearomatize inhibitors which i think is nolva(anti estrogen) & 5 alpha reductase inhibitors. Where can i get this stuf & is this correct? Also novadex for pct. u say clomid. From what I know the life of this testosterone is 15 days so i start my pct 15 days after last injection right? im freaked out cause i dont want to go bald grow breasts and lose my manhood thats y i chose half cycle and i have dianabol i want to do in jan 2010. please give me your opinion. i want to start mon and avoid side effects if possible. im 26 5'10 at 180 lbs and very strong but very hard for me to put on mass im told its because of my job where i burn psycho amouts of calories climbing trees and labor which destroys my recovery. i have 2 pages worth of notes i just need a experienced human being to tell me whats best for my situation. what would u do with this 10ml of testosterone cypionate /

[weightslinger]

good post, appreciate the knowledge!

[Test 01]

great read thanks

[omg_miiiike]

Great thread, I will have to bookmark it for when I start my test cycle. One of the things that confuses me is loading the needle, if I wanted to do 250mg twice a week; is that 1cc on the needle? Also I have two bottles of Test E, they are 10ml each; how many weeks would that be good for if I did 500mg a week?

Here is what I have:
Another Test E question..

[BJJ]

"I'm new and I'm looking for a good fist cycle"

Ok new guys this seems to be a big topic here so here is a post for you. First of all this is not a recipe just a guide line on what you should be researching. You need to learn about these substances in more depth than I will go into here. However, for the new member just coming to AR I think this will answer a lot of questions. If nothing else you will see that there is a lot of studying in your future and there is no quick way to cycle properly

1st cut vs bulk

A lot of people seem to feel you can both cut and bulk at the same time. Well I'm telling you right now to forget that idea. If your ready to start your journey down the dark path you should start it with a good old fashion bulking stack. Don't waist your first stack with a cutter. Save that for after you've gained some more size. If you feel like you need to cut, do it naturally before your first cycle.

Diet

This IMO is where most mistakes are made. I try to keep it somewhat clean while bulking but some of you worry way too much about what you eat. This causes many of you to not eat enough. I also think people need to get more carbs while bulking. I've seen many people trying to bulk on what I would consider a cutting diet.

For bulking I suggest high protein, med carbs and low fats. As a general rule I try to consume about 2 g of protein per lb daily while bulking although sometimes I don't get it all in. When I'm not bulking my carb intake is quite low so the boost in carbs gives me quite a treat.

Do some research before you start any Anabolic cycle on how your body reacts to certain diets. If you in an advanced enough stage to be using Anabolics you should already know how you reacts to diets and exactly how many calories you need to eat to accomplish the weight you are looking to acquire. Ask for diet help if you need it. There are many people on AR who know more about diet than I ever will.

Make sure you get a good multi-vit in the mix. Specially with low fat diets.

The Gear
The are many right and many wrong ways to do things here. There is no one magic formula for cycling. Many people do it many different ways. Many of those ways work well. Many don't. Things I may suggest others may say I'm way off base. I can only tell you what I have learned from experience. You have to make your own decisions for yourself

Its become a common thing that many vets here suggest a test only first cycle. Thats fine. I'm sure you'll get some good gains from it. I myself like a little more in the mix. Like I said test only is fine if you want to stop there.

The most coming thing to ad is deca . Yes its mild on the sides. Yes you get good gains. However, if you do chose deca it will mean that an anti estrogen alone will not prevent gyno 100%. Another substance such as bromo will be needed in case of progesterone related gyno. For this reason alone I suggest eq (Equipoise ). The gains are not quit as big but you will keep more of them and that sounds like a good trade off to me.

Dbol and other orals.
I know many of you would like to ad these to a first stack. I did and from experience let me tell you its not a good idea. The side effects are just too high. I was doubled over in bed from my the pains in my liver. Other have had pains from excessive back pumps to the point of missing workouts. trust me on this one save the orals till you know how your gonna react to a all injectable cycle it will make it easier

Doses

I suggest you run test at about 500mg. Some say thats over kill and 250mg is plenty first time around. For some maybe. I know for a fact for me it wouldn't have been enough. I upped my doses mid cycle from 400mg to 600mg before I got satisfactory results from my test. To me 500mg is in no way shape or form excessive.

For the eq or deca I would run it at 300-400mg. Ran mine at 400mg. I felt it had a great effect on me.

Other thing you need to be taking

Lots of water. I am not shitting you when I say on a cycle I drink 2+ gallons a day. I just drink it out of a 1 gallon jug. Hope you don't get in trouble at work for being in the bathroom every 15 min.

Anti estrogen. I personally take nolva though out the whole cycle @ 20mg. If I feel itchy or sore nipples I up it to 50mg till its gone. Then its back to 20mg. I run it till I'm done with my PCT (post cycle therapy ). Other good things to run with or instead of nolva liquadex, ferma, Arimidex . Read around you'll see a couple others. Nolva for me is simply cheap available and effective.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) I follow the idea that clomid alone is a perfectly fine PCT for most cycles. I will say for any kinda cycle your going to be doing here it is. The thing is you wanna start your clomid when the majority of the anabolics are out of your system. For that you need to know that test Enathate (which is the test I recommend you use right now) after 2 weeks will diminish enough to Begin PCT. For deca and eq it will be roughly 3 weeks. So you will simply end the eq/deca a week before the test.

The correct way to run clomid:
day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed (every day)
day 12-21 50 mg ed

Final thought

For the most part this is very general. I tried to keep it that way. I did not intend this to be a all you need to know about steroids by Ron type of thing. I do not have all the answers. There are many things to learn and I just wanted to give you a good step in the right direction. I have been on this board for years and all I have learned it has taught me. Still everyday I learn something new. Take your time. Read the threads. Read the educational forum. Ask questions. There are many very smart Bros on here. Take advantage of them. Steroids are not a quick fix like some people think. They are a drug you are putting into your body. Make sure before you do this you know what they are and what they will do to you.

Why is that?
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[mygreyhound]

thanx