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06-14-2010, 03:51 AM #121New Member
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Greetings, brothers.
First off, I am major new to this. I am in the planning stages of my first stack. I'm looking to go on a bulking stack before I go on the shredding one.
I am 28, about 6"0 and 235.4lbs.
My intended supplier recommended that I take Deca -300, Anavar and Trenbolone to start off with. Further research has brought to light the fact that Deca-300 and Tren are a bad combination, especially with regard to their shutting off natural test production.
Please help me out with ideas on a beginner bulking stack. I'm looking to pack on as much lean muscle as possible.
I appreciate all your anticipated help.
IIreX
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06-14-2010, 04:55 AM #122New Member
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Many thanks, brother Aimology. I am much indebted. If I may trouble you a bit further and enquire as to your recommendations for pre and post cycle therapy for purposes of avoiding avoidable issues, what would you say?
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07-02-2010, 05:20 AM #123New Member
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Brothers, I just wanted to find out whether in you all's experience, there are supplements out there that are best avoided if one is on gear. I'm certain that different considerations apply depending on whether one is on a bulking or a shredding cycle. I would be indebted if you all could point me in the right direction on this. On the strength of you all's advice, I shall be hitting some gear within the next ten weeks. This constituting a twelve week course of test enth and dbol .
Your assistance would be much appreciated.
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07-04-2010, 02:26 PM #124New Member
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I'm tired alot!
I'm a newbie and i'll keep this short. I've been on test for two months now and thinking of the third. I just want some answers as to why i'm tired so much?
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07-05-2010, 03:45 PM #125Junior Member
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It could be you've been on too long. your androgen receptors are'full' and need an off cycle. You're tired because your natty test production is zero'd out and shut down now.
Hate to say it, but some serious PCT is needed now. Clomid, HCG .
I'd go off cycle, do PCT and get blood work done.
Look up ASIH (anabolic Steroid Induced Hypogonadism)
or it could be an infection, diet, could be a lot of things, but from what I can read into this, I'd say hypogonadism is setting in.
Good luck, hope you feel better.
Just FYI...you'd get more feedback making your own thread. Sorry Ron that I answered this here, but I think the guy could do with some help.
Good luck
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07-10-2010, 09:02 PM #126
excellent post! simple, and to the point. good shit!
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Hi Guys,
Here's a question. I'm 45 years old, 6'2" 260 lbs. I've been working out all my life a side from 2-3 years recovering from a motorcycle accident. I switched jobs and started eating poorly and went up to about 25% BF. I'm on an island and limited to working out at home. Anyway, I was constantly having problems with muscle pulling, joint pain, neck problems, etc and could not get rid of the stomach. Anyway, invested in some really nice home gym equipment and also noticed that AAS along with everything else is legally obtained here). About 6 months ago I did a 400mg test c - Deca 400 mg and it was like magic!! I was taking Dbol at 30 mg ed, but my BP went up so I quit it. I PCT with nolva and clomid for 3 weeks and anyway, kept what appeared to me to be all of my muscle (- water). I'm 4 weeks into my second cycle and have noticed gains slowing. I'm down to about 18% BF and am thinking of upping my dose to 600 mg test c and leaving the Deca at 400 mg. I was also thinking of adding some stanazalol at 50 mg eod for the last 4 weeks of a 12 week cycle.
My work out is Ronnie's Slingshot Training with a 5 day split, one muscle group once a week:
Mon - Chest
Tues - Back
Wed - Arms
Thurs - Legs
Fri - Shoulders, abs
I do cardio on a eliptical machine for 30 min 4-5 times a week.
Diet-wise,
8:00 am 2 Bananas - cardio 30 minutes
9:30 Fruit salad w/yogurt oats, 3 hard boiled eggs 1 whole/2 whites
12:00 chicken coconut curry w/vegtables, rice
3:00 pm Chicken sandwich on whole wheat bread 3 eggs 1 whole/2 whites
6:00 Pre workout 3 bananas
Post workout whey protien shake w/bananas, mango OJ Pine apple juice 1 egg and milk.
9:00 pm grilled chicken or lean beef with garden salad or asparagus w/ olive oil.
I guess what I'm looking for is any suggestions, especially whether to include this Stanzolol for the last 4 weeks of my cycle. My BF% isn't dropping as fast as I would like, but I'm definitely looking better. (I'm not taking AAS to lose weight!) I've had no bad side effects from any of this, my libido has gone through the roof and I've started to have chics as young as 25 hitting on me. My lifts have gone way up and no hints of joint pain or injury. I guess I need to get blood work done but the place I'm at isn't easy to get this done. I probably could have done more research and went at this differently, but it's hard to say it was a mistake for me. Any heads up or any changes to diet or any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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07-12-2010, 11:31 AM #128
how many calories are you consuming each day?
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07-13-2010, 06:11 PM #129New Member
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iv just started my corse. my question is i tasted the deca an tess to see what it tasted of because i got told some people who rip people of put oil in the vials. but it did tast like oil. is that what it tasts like? please some one anser 4 me pleas. (im not drinkin them im injectin but i wanted to no wat they tast like. thanks lee.
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07-13-2010, 06:17 PM #130
guys this is an educational thread, while it is an excellent read and I don't mind guys bumping it, if you have questions to ask not pertaining to this thread please start a thread of your own so we don't end up trying to respond to a bunch of people at once.
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07-13-2010, 06:23 PM #131New Member
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07-13-2010, 06:24 PM #132New Member
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i need some ones help
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07-13-2010, 06:25 PM #133
he wasn't talking to you, read my post above yours...
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07-14-2010, 06:37 PM #134New Member
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I am needing some advise can some one help out. I am 44 6'4" about 290 been out of the loop for about 5yrs. getting back in the program was gonna start off with sostanon 250 and wynstrol. any advise would be appreciated!!!!!
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07-15-2010, 02:47 PM #136Banned
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I really like your post!
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08-04-2010, 02:26 AM #137
Great read
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03-27-2011, 07:30 PM #138Junior Member
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Thanks
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06-06-2011, 05:24 PM #139Junior Member
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Great read. Very informative!
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08-08-2011, 12:33 AM #140
Great post I have a ton of more reading to do ........
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Lastnight I had this sharp pain in my heart an my whole left chest. Thought it would go away but it wouldnt! It kept me up for a good 15 20 min the whole night. The deeper the breathes I take the worst the pain got. Hope its not from my orals. I also drank that night.
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How bout 4 wks of A50 and 9 wks of test?
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09-10-2011, 03:57 PM #143New Member
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kitten hair thinning info
Anxious about your cat alopecia ? My spouse and I created list of indications ->cat hair loss
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09-30-2011, 09:03 PM #144New Member
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Question since I am new to this
I should start our with nolva
and take
day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed (every day)
day 12-21 50 mg ed
and what about day 21+
Also my reading English gets confused some times since I am usually not used to reading online.
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11-08-2011, 06:57 AM #145
Come on sticky this !
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11-10-2011, 03:02 PM #146Associate Member
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first cycle
Thanks for the education without you guys I would have been dangerously lost .Followed the advice for my first cycle and loved the strength and size gains and have kept them 4 weeks off and cant wait for the next one. thanks again for sharing
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need help and info
hi guys I'm a 33 yr old male looking for some help,i ask questions all the time but friends or acquaintances tell you different things so im hoping that your valuable knowledge will help me,recently bought super test 400 uglabs 100 mg prop 100mg heptylate 100mg meth enanthate cyp 100 mg curious on what size needles tou use also how many ccs every week what size gauge of needle and how i can get them,also waiting for him to get me some winstrol but keep getting excuse on when its coming so Please read the board rules before posting again..about me 6ft 3 215 i play soccer semi prof so what im looking to do is get a little stronger and faster so if anyone reads this please tell me what other things i should be taking while using like milk thistle taurine
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01-25-2012, 08:58 PM #149Junior Member
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Wow!! You never stop learning from this sight. About ever bro here is all about helping out.... thx agian
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02-10-2012, 01:52 AM #150New Member
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Help needed please: I'm about to start my first cycle ever and everybody seems to have there own opinions. Can someone please clarify for me exactly how much test prop and cyp I am supposed to take each week? Thanks in advance
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03-28-2012, 01:31 AM #152New Member
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Thanks for the info Ron
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03-28-2012, 07:38 AM #153New Member
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Just read this and went from a newbie who knew nothing, to still a newbie, but I'm a little bit more informed. Thanks.
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06-11-2012, 12:19 PM #154
So when stacking do you shoot the eq and test with two separate pins, or do you pull them both into the same syringe and shoot both at the same time... assuming 250 mg test, 250 mg eq...?
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07-08-2012, 11:34 AM #155
Very nice brother...great info. No bullshit
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08-01-2012, 02:24 PM #156New Member
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Awsome thread bro!!!
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09-10-2012, 04:25 PM #157
Ok so the OP says it's perfectly fine to run clomid only for pct on most cycles. I was told that is NOT ok for my current test e cycle. Now I'm getting mixed advice, can anyone clarify for me please?
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09-10-2012, 05:03 PM #158
The OP wrote that 10 years ago. This is an old thread. Read up in the PCT section to get the best info.
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09-10-2012, 05:14 PM #159Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas
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09-12-2012, 04:29 PM #160Junior Member
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does anyone know why people say EQ is useless?
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