Oh darn....What if I mess up my HRT?

[Spyke]

You sure they used the same labs for both tests? Scales may not be the same.

[goumcanes]

Wow..quite the situation for an early 20 something..i hope all works out. I went through the SAME process with a few exceptions I will share with you and some stuff to consider. Im 40 yrs old..training for last 20 years for health and some size..never got above 215 lbs at 6'0 and averaged about 11% b/f up to 16% at my worst. Started feeling like crap and had NO desire to have sex with my wife and she wanted kids BAD approx 5 years ago....got her pregnant first time both attempts and we now have two kids. In 2003 I had my test levels checked...SCARY LOW....came back at 84 with virtually no FSH and LH production at all....they had me do bone density tests and MRI's for tumors...everything normal...thank god. Well...I failed to tell them that (1) I played with prohormones big time for approx 9 months straight up to blood test with no pct whatsoever and (2) I was averaging a lot of jack daniels to "numb" the brain as they say. Endo started me on 200mg every 2 weeks of Test Ent...I felt AWESOME.....Needless to say...I wanted to experiment with pct to see if I could elevate my natural levels....tried HGC/Clomid a few times and actually saw the levels rise into the low 200's but the FHS and LH numbers still were virtually nonexistent. Back on HRT......Finally in Dec 2005 when my ALT liver enzymes jumped to 113 (range 3-60) I decided to stop everything entirely. I stopped the nightly jack daniels....stopped the injections..stopped the tylenol for aches..real clean ..ran 30,000 IU's of HCG alone (no clomid/no nolvadex ) and lab work for April 2006 showed Total test count moved up to 219 ng/dl...FSH 1.8 and LH 1.8 (within normal ranges). I think I was really doing a number on my body with my best friend Jack.....then I tested again in June 2006 and test number was in low 300's.with FHS and LH above 2.0...FINALLY I had a solution. I restarted the test ent at 200 mg twice a week because, quite honestly..I have never felt better on the HRT...three weeks ago I stopped again...doing the HCG with (little if any of old Jack these days) and I will probably let my body rest for into mid 2007....get some more blood tests and start HRT again for 2 mos. Good luck my friend...I hope you find your solution!

[zaggahamma]

Wow..quite the situation for an early 20 something..i hope all works out. I went through the SAME process with a few exceptions I will share with you and some stuff to consider. Im 40 yrs old..training for last 20 years for health and some size..never got above 215 lbs at 6'0 and averaged about 11% b/f up to 16% at my worst. Started feeling like crap and had NO desire to have sex with my wife and she wanted kids BAD approx 5 years ago....got her pregnant first time both attempts and we now have two kids. In 2003 I had my test levels checked...SCARY LOW....came back at 84 with virtually no FSH and LH production at all....they had me do bone density tests and MRI's for tumors...everything normal...thank god. Well...I failed to tell them that (1) I played with prohormones big time for approx 9 months straight up to blood test with no pct whatsoever and (2) I was averaging a lot of jack daniels to "numb" the brain as they say. Endo started me on 200mg every 2 weeks of Test Ent...I felt AWESOME.....Needless to say...I wanted to experiment with pct to see if I could elevate my natural levels....tried HGC/Clomid a few times and actually saw the levels rise into the low 200's but the FHS and LH numbers still were virtually nonexistent. Back on HRT......Finally in Dec 2005 when my ALT liver enzymes jumped to 113 (range 3-60) I decided to stop everything entirely. I stopped the nightly jack daniels....stopped the injections..stopped the tylenol for aches..real clean ..ran 30,000 IU's of HCG alone (no clomid/no nolvadex) and lab work for April 2006 showed Total test count moved up to 219 ng/dl...FSH 1.8 and LH 1.8 (within normal ranges). I think I was really doing a number on my body with my best friend Jack.....then I tested again in June 2006 and test number was in low 300's.with FHS and LH above 2.0...FINALLY I had a solution. I restarted the test ent at 200 mg twice a week because, quite honestly..I have never felt better on the HRT...three weeks ago I stopped again...doing the HCG with (little if any of old Jack these days) and I will probably let my body rest for into mid 2007....get some more blood tests and start HRT again for 2 mos. Good luck my friend...I hope you find your solution!

Hey man....welcome to AR...Congrats on the offspring
What was the moral to your story.....keep Jack Daniels in the closet for special occasions?

[liftin4life]

Haha...so regardless of what she chooses to do.......

I have a script for test injections of 200mg/ml and she didn't specify which ester....(that means I can get ANY type at that dosage...prop, enth, cyp.) I just got cyp and have enth on the way.

The script is enough for 2 years! 5 bottles! AND....my insurance is paying 100% of it! So either way...as long as there is no way she can cancel my script...even if we have a difference of opinion...I can stay on TRT and get a better Dr.

[zaggahamma]

Haha...so regardless of what she chooses to do.......

I have a script for test injections of 200mg/ml and she didn't specify which ester....(that means I can get ANY type at that dosage...prop, enth, cyp.) I just got cyp and have enth on the way.

The script is enough for 2 years! 5 bottles! AND....my insurance is paying 100% of it! So either way...as long as there is no way she can cancel my script...even if we have a difference of opinion...I can stay on TRT and get a better Dr.

never seen/heard of a script of test with refills
they classify that as controlled substance where i come from....sounds like u have AWESOME insurance, too.
glad u got some satisfaction bro

[liftin4life]

never seen/heard of a script of test with refills
they classify that as controlled substance where i come from....sounds like u have AWESOME insurance, too.
glad u got some satisfaction bro

Haha...yep yep...4 more bottles for me. Yeah...I have gov insurance :-). It pays for everything. Out of like $7k in medical bills...I've paid 45 bucks just from copays for visits...all bloodwork and the MRI were 100%.

[zaggahamma]

Haha...yep yep...4 more bottles for me. Yeah...I have gov insurance :-). It pays for everything. Out of like $7k in medical bills...I've paid 45 bucks just from copays for visits...all bloodwork and the MRI were 100%.

loves that free gear