For TRT guys only please......

**Papa Smurf** · 06-05-2009, 09:26 AM

Hey Bros. This ? may have been asked, but my search reveled nothing, so Im gonna start a thread.

How many of you guys that are on TRT now, did cycles of steriods without proper pct or took them before the age of 25.

If any of you feel this information would not be wise to put out there for our younger readers, then I will remove this thread ASAP.

But I also think, these young guys may learn from our mistakes, if they will listen.

Me: Ran dbol only for 8 weeks when I was 21. After about a week, my balls broke out in a rash and I went to the doc thinkin I had the clap.

When I was 25, Ran 700mg week of cyp. for 12 weeks. No pct. Back then we just tapered up at first and then back down at the end. Never heard of pct back then.

Again, if anyone feels this is not the place for this, I will remove it!

***T-MOS*** · 06-05-2009, 10:09 AM

the thread is fine.

I was 35 before I ever started taking , so I can't help here.
but even 10 years ago PCT knowledge doesn't seem to be what it is today... I think I only took clomid for my first PCT

**Theatrix** · 06-05-2009, 10:34 AM

I was also around 35. My only PCT was clomid. Had a vasectomy at 40 and my Test was still ok because ooooops, had another kid.

**THORSZ** · 06-05-2009, 09:22 PM

Cycled twice about 10 years ago (33?)and didn't know about PCT. I felt fine when coming off though. Not sure if that messed up my levels. I think I was always low.

**bd50** · 06-05-2009, 11:50 PM

im on trt now, i'm 34,, and i messed around with some dbol , test, and other tabs several times since age 18, no pct ever. i think all that uneducated "experimenting" back then has something to do with my low natty test levels i discovered at 30.

feel good now on trt, but i dont have kids yet and want one,,, and im worried about fukkin something up with the long term trt. my doc says just let him know a few months before we plan for kids, and he will start checking sperm count and give me clomid.. i just hope thats enough to work.

**amcon** · 06-05-2009, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by bd50

im on trt now, i'm 34,, and i messed around with some dbol , test, and other tabs several times since age 18, no pct ever. i think all that uneducated "experimenting" back then has something to do with my low natty test levels i discovered at 30.

feel good now on trt, but i dont have kids yet and want one,,, and im worried about fukkin something up with the long term trt. my doc says just let him know a few months before we plan for kids, and he will start checking sperm count and give me clomid.. i just hope thats enough to work.

i have had two kids while i have been on a cycle - fyi

did you have a question?

**lovbyts** · 06-06-2009, 01:46 AM

Im not much help either, I did my first at 45 when I started HRT

**kickinit** · 06-06-2009, 04:20 PM

Never cycled, and currently on TRT at 32.

**warchild** · 06-06-2009, 05:49 PM

done a few cycles but only one pct, started trt at 25

**ENraged** · 06-06-2009, 06:00 PM

Nope no cycles currently 34 been on TRT since 33 and known about my low test issues for close to 5 years.

**ruffcute** · 06-06-2009, 06:18 PM

Started trt at 25 (about 5 months ago) but my reason was for a medical procedure. A little worried about the long term though, and having kids

**Pac Man** · 06-07-2009, 09:28 AM

Was on trt at age 25, never did a steroid cycle. still haven't. I stopped TRT now and live with low test because of my job.
My low test was believe to be from injuries sustained overseas.

**Bender45** · 06-07-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ironside

live with low test because of my job.

What does this mean, Ironside?

**Pac Man** · 06-09-2009, 06:12 PM

Military, I'm trying to see how S4 works. I know it won't do anything for my test levels but I have heard it gives the same feeling as test and that's all that really matters.

**warchild** · 06-09-2009, 06:49 PM

why wont the military let you take trt?

**AllPumpedUp** · 06-10-2009, 12:09 AM

I wan nit below 25 but same thing... no pct 2 cycles of test and tren and it shut me down

**Papa Smurf** · 06-11-2009, 07:33 PM

Need input (BUMP)

**Dont wanna be old** · 06-11-2009, 09:01 PM

I had tried 5 cycles before I started TRT . I didn't know importance of PCT . Let me tell you I payed the price. Anyone ever tried sublingual testosterone ? I ordered it from Canada . I guess you know there isn't such thing . This was knowledge I started with . After a month of putting drops under my tongue before workouts . I had bumps and thru out bottle . Gets better . I received a call from a US customs agent requesting a interview about my ordering of a controled substance . The agents believed my story . By looking at me you could tell I never had any muscle enhancing help . I think they laughed the asses off after they left my house . This was around 1994 . The other 4 times was real AAS . All ended in disaster .
I was 30 when I started making these mistakes. Steriods where a tabou subject around the gym . Unless you had connections . Therefor PCT would be like making a diamond out of a piece of coal .

**Pac Man** · 06-15-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by warchild28

why wont the military let you take trt?

Because I'm combat. I can't be dependent on any medications.
S4 I can start and stop without worry of PCT. If I could get nebido I would probably attempt to start trt under the table.

**amcon** · 06-15-2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ironside

Because I'm combat. I can't be dependent on any medications.
S4 I can start and stop without worry of PCT. If I could get nebido I would probably attempt to start trt under the table.

how can you say you can do s4 and no worry of pct? imho if you in combat go to you sargent and tell him your a bad ass and need aas to become a super hero!!!