HCG while on HRT, why?

**lovbyts** · 06-19-2009, 05:25 AM

OK I did a LOT of searching and could not really come up with a good answer.

Why take HCG while on HRT?

Does it really keep your natural Test working?

I understand that it helps the boys out but mine did not shirk that much but dont hang like they did which I like NOT hanging.

Does it have to do more with sperm count? I'm snipped so it doesn't matter.

Does insurance pay for it if I want to do it like they do my Test?

Will it boost my test levels overall (from what I read yes) and if so why not just take more Test E?

Please fill in what I'm missing.

**ZonaDave** · 06-19-2009, 01:40 PM

my first doc put me on Test Cyp and HCG over 10 months ago but i wasn't seeing the results i expected so last month i started seeing a new doc and he didn't want me on HCG and he said he rarely prescribes it. i've been off HCG for several months now and i don't notice a difference.

i never understood how HCG could be affective because of how unstable it is. users say it looses it's strength as time goes on so how are you suppose to manage E2 when this happens. some say they increase their dose as it ages but when do you increase it and by how much? it seems to me that as it ages and losses it's strength you'd have to regulate your AI dose to keep E2 in check.

i can see HCG working if you're secondary but if you're primary then you're already dealing with an unreliable source of T.

HCG hasn't been around that long so i wonder how patients got by all those years before. to top it off, it's expensive and hard to get sometimes.

**zaggahamma** · 06-19-2009, 02:10 PM

in your case i wouldnt see any benefit as you answered all your own questions but the boys may dwindle even more

**bullmastiff** · 06-19-2009, 06:25 PM

I think they will eventually dwindle anyways. Mine have after being on TRT for 4 years.
I take nothing but the test cyp. every two weeks at 250mg.

**zaggahamma** · 06-20-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by bullmastiff

I think they will eventually dwindle anyways. Mine have after being on TRT for 4 years.
I take nothing but the test cyp. every two weeks at 250mg.

yes that wut i'm saying but the point was will hcg prevent the dwindleage

**Kale** · 06-20-2009, 10:47 AM

If you like seeing your nuts every now and then then thats the only reason you would do HCG . I am starting tomorrow as a matter of fact because I cant remember what they looked like. Its does actually make me even more horny than usual as well

**zaggahamma** · 06-20-2009, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

If you like seeing your nuts every now and then then thats the only reason you would do HCG. I am starting tomorrow as a matter of fact because I cant remember what they looked like. Its does actually make me even more horny than usual as well

so kale....you've used hcg off and on? and can vouch for its use?

**Dont wanna be old** · 06-20-2009, 11:25 AM

I hope there's more feedback on this ! HCG is so expensive .

**Dont wanna be old** · 06-20-2009, 11:36 AM

Maybe I am the only one . Months back there was a shortage on HCG . I asked pharmacist why it's so expensive . He said he was upcharging because he wasn't making any money . Needless to say I found another pharmacy .

**Bio-Active** · 06-20-2009, 02:15 PM

My doc told me that if i used HCG that i would still be able to have children. That would be the only reason he would prescribe it.

**Kale** · 06-20-2009, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

so kale....you've used hcg off and on? and can vouch for its use?

Absolutely. My balls are back to normal size within a week, I usually run it for four weeks at 500IU EOD

**zaggahamma** · 06-20-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Absolutely. My balls are back to normal size within a week, I usually run it for four weeks at 500IU EOD

so gotta get me some

**ruffcute** · 06-20-2009, 08:29 PM

is it daily injections

**Kale** · 06-21-2009, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by ruffcute

is it daily injections

500 IU EOD or even twice a week is probably enough.

***T-MOS*** · 06-21-2009, 02:45 AM

I say...who needs it... The smaller the potatoes, the bigger the meat looks......LOLOLOLOL

**Kale** · 06-21-2009, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

I say...who needs it... The smaller the potatoes, the bigger the meat looks......LOLOLOLOL

I tend to agree but I have a pretty big sack anyway so its hard to tell. Some guys are totally paranoid about having small balls, God knows why

**lovbyts** · 06-21-2009, 03:02 AM

I prefer them pulled up instead of slapping my knees. LOL
Mine only pulled up probably like when I was 20s, NICE

Makes it easier to shave also.

OK TMI

**Kale** · 06-21-2009, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I prefer them pulled up instead of slapping my knees. LOL
Mine only pulled up probably like when I was 20s, NICE

Makes it easier to shave also.

OK TMI

Funny I was watching Dr 90210 the other night, thats a show on these gay plastic surgeons in Hollywood. The big thing at the moment is a a labia plasty for women and a scrotal lift for men. The mind boggles. Let me research "Scrotal Lift" and I will report back

**lovbyts** · 06-21-2009, 03:40 AM

Hahahaha only if they know they only have to shoot some test or deca and up they come. LOL

Nice to see you are back kale. I hope all is well.

I posted some pics today. Go give me a hard time LOL

**Kale** · 06-21-2009, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Hahahaha only if they know they only have to shoot some test or deca and up they come. LOL

Nice to see you are back kale. I hope all is well.

I posted some pics today. Go give me a hard time LOL

Thanks mate and the "hard time" has already been given

**clozto50** · 06-23-2009, 07:28 PM

Try rxhealthdrugs.com,much cheaper!

**zaggahamma** · 06-23-2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by clozto50

Try rxhealthdrugs.com,much cheaper!

so i went to that site and did a mock order for arimidex yes way cheaper i filled out all til asked for credit card...it never asks for RX?????? y would i need to get an rx from a doc if i can just go to that site without one? fishy?

**clozto50** · 06-24-2009, 04:44 AM

They are outside the US so you dont need a script.I just ordered hcg so will keep all posted.

**zaggahamma** · 06-24-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by clozto50

They are outside the US so you dont need a script.I just ordered hcg so will keep all posted.

yes please do...anyone else use them? i'd like to get hcg cheap

**flatscat** · 06-24-2009, 05:34 PM

You also have to consider the increase in E2 due to the increase in free t caused by the hcg and adjust your AI accordingly. So here is a scenario - a new trt user starts taking t, then hcg, then an AI. All will increase either total or free (if E2 is high to start with) and all will increase E2 in most men.