My TRT Script!

**Honkey_Kong** · 01-15-2011, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by bass

it was prescribed by the clinic's doctor i presume! i did complain about going to the bathroom allot and he said its because of the anastrazole, he said just keep drinking lots of water to stay hydrated until it normalizes. i believe the clinic is planning on ordering a blood work before my next script! so we'll see where everything is then!

The clinic you go to allows you to do the injections yourself? The place I go to, requires me to go in every week for an injection.

**bass** · 01-15-2011, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong;54***57

The clinic you go to allows you to do the injections yourself? The place I go to, requires me to go in every week for an injection.

as far as i know most do let you inject yourself!

**Triple Stack** · 01-16-2011, 08:08 AM

My urologist lets me inject myself, as well as my clinic. Both gave me the script and said "have at at it"!
But my urologist was kind enough to show me how do do it my first visit to him, and said only if I wanted to LOL

**Honkey_Kong** · 01-17-2011, 05:13 AM

I've only been to this one place, so I was assuming most places were like that. I should probably ask them if they'd let me inject myself at home.

**emmett** · 01-17-2011, 09:29 AM

Keep goin bro. My clinic is scribing me winny tabs as well as other stuff (test c,etc..). I'm going to do a months worth and see where that takes me. I was told it is good for helping with BF. Bass, were you offered Winny?

**APIs** · 01-17-2011, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

There is no price for true TRT. However, he stated he's going to use it as a cycle and run PCT. Thus, making it an expensive cycle. And you can put a price on that.

Adding compounds later after you find your sweet spot is understandable. But to initally start with three compounds when consistent blood levels should be established first? Come on jpkman, you've been around here long enough to know that's ridiclous.

So you have low test as determined by your doctor/physician and you are going to run this TRT script once a year? So the rest of the year you are going to have low test? PCT will do nothing if you are already shutdown. Just because it comes from a "clinic" doesn't mean it is actual testosterone replacement therapy. People of all types wander this forum. This goes against TRUE trt and just confuses people trying to learn.

To each their own, I don't care what you do. However, this should be in the Anabolic forum, not the HRT forum.

No offense to anyone, but I can understand some of the above concerns being raised by Dante. I know every Dr./Clinic is different, but when compared to my own TRT introduction, it does seem to be a lot of compounds @ elevated levels for someone 'just' starting out. Plus knowing that TRT is for life & that money is an issue going forward, wouldnt the OP be better off making this known to the Clinic & maybe concentrating on a Test Cyp/Enan only protocol to save money? Again, not bashing anyone - just my $0.02...

**bass** · 01-17-2011, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by emmett

Keep goin bro. My clinic is scribing me winny tabs as well as other stuff (test c,etc..). I'm going to do a months worth and see where that takes me. I was told it is good for helping with BF. Bass, were you offered Winny?

no but they put me on anavar !

**bass** · 01-17-2011, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by APIs

No offense to anyone, but I can understand some of the above concerns being raised by Dante. I know every Dr./Clinic is different, but when compared to my own TRT introduction, it does seem to be a lot of compounds @ elevated levels for someone 'just' starting out. Plus knowing that TRT is for life & that money is an issue going forward, wouldnt the OP be better off making this known to the Clinic & maybe concentrating on a Test Cyp/Enan only protocol to save money? Again, not bashing anyone - just my $0.02...

i agree! but for me i needed the deca to help with joint pain, and anavar for fat loss! i am sure i won't be on them after this script is finished, most likely I'll be on Test C and some inhibitors!

**bass** · 01-17-2011, 11:34 AM

I've been having back pains, it feels on the surface, it starts from the front center of the rib cage and wraps around to the center of my back, it feel tender, not sure if its a side or just pulled muscle or maybe rib out place!

**zaggahamma** · 01-17-2011, 12:37 PM

anavar DOES NOT/WILL NOT create fat loss

**bass** · 01-17-2011, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

anavar DOES NOT/WILL NOT create fat loss

i don't know exactly how it works, i am sure with good diet and exercise anavar will aid fat loss. also i read the profile from here,

http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php

and according to the chart anavar has the highest fat loss rating!

**zaggahamma** · 01-17-2011, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by bass

i don't know exactly how it works, i am sure with good diet and exercise anavar will aid fat loss. also i read the profile from here,

http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php

and according to the chart anavar has the highest fat loss rating!

i used to follow a couple anavar threads but dont most run var along with test?

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 12:01 AM

not sure why they prescribed it, it could be because of my creatinine serum level were on the high side, perhaps to help preserve muscle tissue!

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 10:50 AM

i am having unusual lower back pain, kind of like muscle aches and ribs feel tender to touch! i wonder if this is caused by Anastrozole! i will contact my clinic today. any thoughts on this? i am still taking 1/2 tablet a day which is 1/2 mg.

**flatscat** · 01-18-2011, 11:02 AM

I never heard of it causing ribs to ache, but as you know that is a ton, and I have heard of too much drying joints and causing issues there.

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 12:17 PM

thanks FlatsCat! i emailed my clinic and within 30 minutes they were on the phone, my coordinator and the endo, the endo asked how much water i was drinking and i told him two liters! he said no i need to drink at least one gallon, he recommend 1.5 to 2 gallons a day. he said the muscle ache and cramps is from not drinking enough water while on Anastrozole. so I'll work on that and see if it improves! i made a mistake in one of my posts when someone asked why was the anavar prescribed, i said it was to lean me out! well i was wrong, the endo said one of the benefits of Anastrozole is to make more more lean! so it was the anastrozole not the anavar!

my biceps are bigger and stronger, i love ho they feel and look! i took my third injection today, its getting easier every time! i am hopping that it will not get sore this time but will keep you posted!

**JohnnyVegas** · 01-18-2011, 12:43 PM

Man, it is hard to drink a gallon of water a day. I have been trying.

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

Man, it is hard to drink a gallon of water a day. I have been trying.

i know! its even harder in winter! if i drink one gallon ed i go to the bathroom every 40 minutes!

**flatscat** · 01-18-2011, 12:58 PM

So what was the purpose of the Anavar ? You are making my head spin brah.

Don't get me wrong - I do wish you all the best. I am just confused with your doc's. We all, (or almost all of us) want the most out of our protocol. I just cant see prescribing you all of those compounds when you first start. I am dying to add Anavar to my trt, and will soon, but I have been on test and and ai, then after a while, test, hcg and an ai, then after my body adjusted to that I added some deca . I learned how my body reacted to each compound and was better off for it. Now if I add Anavar I will know exactly what differences I feel and can attribute to it. If I have an adverse reaction to it, I will know what caused it. I just don't want you to increase your odds of failure because you do not know what is doing what to your body. Maybe I am full of shiat, but the shiat is just tryin to look out for ya.

Now on the the adex "leaning you out". It does reduce the amount of water retained - so is that what they are talking about? Also, as you reduce BF, which will be easier for most with the t and a sensible diet and cardio, it will be easier to put on more lean mass, because we know BF adds to E2 and I believe the adex plays a big role in that reduction. Is that what they are sayin?

I am glad your bi's are looking bigger and are stronger and hopefully all of this will work like a champ for you. I know you have been round the block and are not a newb to putting different compounds into your body. And I know why you are doing it. Just take it slow, and take it all in. If you feel like something is off, after you email your coordinator, let us know and maybe we can help also.

Flats

**JohnnyVegas** · 01-18-2011, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by bass

i know! its even harder in winter! if i drink one gallon ed i go to the bathroom every 40 minutes!

You and me both!

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 01:23 PM

i am trying to upload photos for a while now, but for some reason its not letting me! I'll try to link it somehow!

**zaggahamma** · 01-18-2011, 01:41 PM

agree with flats and glad its working for you

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

So what was the purpose of the Anavar ? You are making my head spin brah.

Don't get me wrong - I do wish you all the best. I am just confused with your doc's. We all, (or almost all of us) want the most out of our protocol. I just cant see prescribing you all of those compounds when you first start. I am dying to add Anavar to my trt, and will soon, but I have been on test and and ai, then after a while, test, hcg and an ai, then after my body adjusted to that I added some deca . I learned how my body reacted to each compound and was better off for it. Now if I add Anavar I will know exactly what differences I feel and can attribute to it. If I have an adverse reaction to it, I will know what caused it. I just don't want you to increase your odds of failure because you do not know what is doing what to your body. Maybe I am full of shiat, but the shiat is just tryin to look out for ya.

Now on the the adex "leaning you out". It does reduce the amount of water retained - so is that what they are talking about? Also, as you reduce BF, which will be easier for most with the t and a sensible diet and cardio, it will be easier to put on more lean mass, because we know BF adds to E2 and I believe the adex plays a big role in that reduction. Is that what they are sayin?

I am glad your bi's are looking bigger and are stronger and hopefully all of this will work like a champ for you. I know you have been round the block and are not a newb to putting different compounds into your body. And I know why you are doing it. Just take it slow, and take it all in. If you feel like something is off, after you email your coordinator, let us know and maybe we can help also.

Flats

thanks again, thats why i am posting on the daily basis so you and others can help me better understand and ask my clinic the right questions! i will ask him exactly why the anavar and get back to you!

**flatscat** · 01-18-2011, 02:07 PM

Bass,

Thanks, but as long as YOU know the reason and are comfortable with it - and what they are doing makes sense to YOU, that is all that matters really.

Flats

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 02:18 PM

FlatsCat, i really appreciate your comments, my first and foremost goal doing the TRT is to better my health not destroy it. so please feel free to chime anytime you see/read something suspicious! i will report as much as i can not only for me but to help others to learn as i am learning now!

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 04:52 PM

damn i still can't upload photos!

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 04:58 PM

lets try this!

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 05:00 PM

WTF! sorry about the huge arm, i mean photo!!! hehe!

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 07:18 PM

oops! the photo is gone! i give up.

**bass** · 01-18-2011, 07:41 PM

OK, lets try it one more time!

**zaggahamma** · 01-18-2011, 09:48 PM

looks similar to the pic in your avy cept w/o the tendon lookin muscle (name?) closer to the elbow...with the close up it you wouldnt guess it were an arm of one in their mid 40's (skin/muscle tone wise) nice work bro...i promis one in april

**bass** · 01-19-2011, 12:03 AM

thanks, the difference is i am flexing hard in the avi and that was right after biceps workout, this one is at work with very light flex. i know my biceps have gotten bigger. now i need lose the fat!

**zaggahamma** · 01-19-2011, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by bass

thanks, the difference is i am flexing hard in the avi and that was right after biceps workout, this one is at work with very light flex. i know my biceps have gotten bigger. now i need lose the fat!

i hear ya bro...dont go and diet away muscle too!

**bass** · 01-19-2011, 09:38 AM

Update;

did my third injection yesterday and no soreness so far. overall i feel good, however i am getting real bad lower muscle cramps/tightness, when i contacted my clinic they said it was the Anastrozole! they said if the cramps don't go away with drinking lots of water i can stop for few days and see how it goes, i am thinking to stop now because i drank 1.5 gallons yesterday and had lots of lower back pain. i am also taking anavar 50mg ed, do you think i should stop taking it too or just the Anastrozole? I'll ask my coordinator as well.

**zaggahamma** · 01-19-2011, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by bass

Update;

did my third injection yesterday and no soreness so far. overall i feel good, however i am getting real bad lower muscle cramps/tightness, when i contacted my clinic they said it was the Anastrozole! they said if the cramps don't go away with drinking lots of water i can stop for few days and see how it goes, i am thinking to stop now because i drank 1.5 gallons yesterday and had lots of lower back pain. i am also taking anavar 50mg ed, do you think i should stop taking it too or just the Anastrozole? I'll ask my coordinator as well.

if u are having pains that DID NOT exist BEFORE this protocol i would seriously reconsider all....just have to wonder if you tried doing something a lil heavy or anything you didnt do before to cause it and it not to be the meds at all...did u say you liften often/heavy or not at all sorry cant remember details of every thread

**bass** · 01-19-2011, 10:07 AM

yes i do lift heavy four days and one day off. my muscles were very sore and tense before TRT, thats one of the reasons i considered TRT, the familiar pains are going away but the new one is my lower back. right now i feel no pain, i am assuming because i haven't taken the Anastrozole as of yet! just sent an email to the coordinator, I'll report back after i hear from him.

**bass** · 01-19-2011, 05:42 PM

all of a sudden i feel nauseous and looking pale! not sure if its because not taking the Anastrozole and anavar today, or its my stomach! my stomach is having mild cramps and making bubbling sounds! i get dizzy when i slant my head to the left or right.

**zaggahamma** · 01-19-2011, 08:55 PM

doesnt sound like something you DIDNT take....doctor asap

**bass** · 01-20-2011, 12:01 AM

if it didn't go away i would have rushed to the ER! but, its gone, it could have been something i ate, also some of my kids had the 24 hour bug so maybe that was it! i haven't heard from my coordinator as of yet! I'll follow up tomorrow...

**bass** · 01-20-2011, 10:20 AM

i haven't heard from the clinic as of yet! i believe my symptoms are related to the digestive system, I've paid a close attention to where and how i get the side pain. it seems to be more aggressive at night especially when i lay down to sleep. i was feeling nauseous yesterday but thats gone. the pain seems to build up slowly and when my stomach gurgles/bubbles it goes away, also when i go to the bathroom the pain subsides! is this symptom related to TRT or just a coincidence? i am planning to see my doctor today but it could take some time to diagnose what i have, so any help or information from you guys as to what this could be it will be greatly appreciated.