Going to see the endo today no i got my protocol and will update this thread

[yannick35]

Ok spoke to him yesterday he is meeting me at is home office today weird the guy works in is home and seeing me on a Saturday.

I will be put on a 20 week deca durabolin cycle, to repair all my body, he said that this works like a charm. And that most people should do longer cycles due to deca being slow acting.

I will also buy 2 GH ampoules for my mix with dextrose and prolotherapy.

He will evaluate me for testosterone and see if i need that 200mg per week.

I will continue with him he seems very credible and after that for TRT. He will also give me an AI and a good diet plan.

He got is little business going good and very well connected, he follows a few recreational bodybuilders that do steroid cycle, TRT patience and more.

If everything goes well by this summer i should be set to go.

I will buy the deca not sure of the dosage or anything yet.

[ecsaaron]

Sorry, but sounds strange to me. Maybe after you see him things will be clearer. Deca with no test is a No-No

[JohnnyVegas]

It does sound odd to suggest Deca only...but I am interested to hear how your meeting went.

[yannick35]

Guys you read wrong its not deca only, its deca 200mg per week, Test E 200mg per week and masteron 100mg Twice a week.

Sounds real good.

[zaggahamma]

not sure if he meant that...the whole post sounded as he was typing underwater...if that makes sense

come on man

oh and yannick...your actually gonna update THIS thread? not make a new one ...or 20?

[JohnnyVegas]

Guys you read wrong its not deca only, its deca 200mg per week, Test E 200mg per week and masteron 100mg Twice a week.

Sounds real good.

Sorry, sounded like you were going to be given Deca and he was going to evaluate whether you needed Test.

It sounds great. When will you do blood work again to see how those levels are doing?

[yannick35]

Sorry, sounded like you were going to be given Deca and he was going to evaluate whether you needed Test.

It sounds great. When will you do blood work again to see how those levels are doing?

First and foremost i am going to go see my medical doctor that gave me the testosterone only and told me NOOOOOOO you don't need an AI and shove it up is face. Testosterone builds up in the body in time, and after a whole if there is no AI you start to feel worst then before, no energy, pain comes back a bit, depression, and weight gain. He told me that a guy came to see him and my medical doctor gave him testosterone only, after 3 months he was feeling sick has hell my medical doctor gave him 400mg of testosterone per week, after 6 months i asked my medical doctor for a AI he told him you don't need that, he was bloated, gained 50 pounds of fat, felt like hell.

Deca and masterone i bought on the black market from that guy I want to keep my medical doctor for blood work and to benefit of is ignorance to keep getting my testosterone at 9$ for 5ml.

I have also been switch to a semi vegetarian diet, less saturated fats. I still eat meat but twice a week the rest is eggs, and i will start to eat lentils and more.

[yannick35]

not sure if he meant that...the whole post sounded as he was typing underwater...if that makes sense

come on man

oh and yannick...your actually gonna update THIS thread? not make a new one ...or 20?

I will make new ones just for you since you seem to care soooo much ho and BTW jpkman i have never forced anyone to read my threads, you can ignore them if they bug you, like i ignore your dumb replies taht you make all the time.

[JD250]

Where do I find a doc that prescribes masteron ? WTF? My clinic sucks! Good luck man.

[yannick35]

Where do I find a doc that prescribes masteron ? WTF? My clinic sucks! Good luck man.

Honest i was frustrated has hell about what the endo told me, he is a personal trainer and a dietician, the guy is 55 years old and looks like a million dollars. Deca and Masteron where bought from him but i did not get a prescription.
I will have to buy more to finish my 20 weeks cycle but what i read and the comments i heard about deca and its power to heal the body and replace collagen cannot be ignored.

I went to is house and i was like a small kid in a candy store, the guy has everything from GH to Winstrol tabs to armidex.

I also have to buy some APL to keep my natural testosterone going but that will be in my second half of the cycle.

The guy also says that its better to do longer cycles with lower dosage, i feel that my noob years will be soon over and i will start to use cycles after this one. The only thing i can get a script for from that ignorant medical doctor that i been seeing is testosterone , i can even con him in giving me more Test E since he is such a jerk and when a patient shows up to is office feeling more tired after using 200mg per week with no AI is up the Testosterone dosage.
. I rather use materone then armidex, it has so much more to offer.

He also told me that for my anemia not to worry he has dealt wit many HIV patience putting them on deca, and he told me after 14 years i would be full blown aids by now if i had the disease.

When used correctly anabolic steroids can do a lot for the aging body, i have read many post on this board and know what i have to do, also i know when i lift weight i can really push myself and lift very heavy but i rather use lighter weights, i don't care with the AS i will still get full benefits.

Building stronger bones, core muscles that have lost there strength, you cannot rebuild does in physio therapy that is a bunch of $hit right there i know i been there and wasted my time.

He also told me that diet even when on AS is 80% of the equation, and that with age he had the same pains has me before going on is TRT protocol.

[yannick35]

I will keep you guys posted on how everything works, i also got a bad shoulder and i really want to see how deca affect this. Also with a good diet and i plan to do what i can in the gym 4 times per week, but diet is the key here.

I am also glad that he took me off all supplements except spiruline, the money i am going to save per month on supplements i will be able to put on food and future AS cycles, that will cost a lot less.

[zaggahamma]

I will make new ones just for you since you seem to care soooo much ho and BTW jpkman i have never forced anyone to read my threads, you can ignore them if they bug you, like i ignore your dumb replies taht you make all the time.

Touche

[ecsaaron]

Sorry, sounded like you were going to be given Deca and he was going to evaluate whether you needed Test.

It sounds great. When will you do blood work again to see how those levels are doing?

Same way that I read it. I figured if I was wrong he would clarify. Thought he may have just misunderstood his Doc.

[yannick35]

In a world of confusion who can you thrust, with your health and more, seems that people who are suppose to be professional are just plain incompetent and when they have a bit of competence they are after your money.

A chiropractor with 35 years of experience adjusted me for a year and a half 3 times per week. This of course got my ligament laxity a lot worst, yet that idiot wanted to continue adjusting me and was all surprised when i told him to fu$$ off.

Why would i expect my medical doctor to be different, the guy takes in too many patience and is way above is head, its not normal for a semi private clinic to wait for nearly 3 hours to see the doctor. He talks too much. I have been also treated like a freaken lab rat, prolo, PRP, botox, prolo inside muscles, trigger points and now testosterone given the wrong way without AI, also told me i could eat anything and i will gain muscles not fat.

I am almost 40 years old now and have learned to accept incompetence in my life ever since i got injured 10 years ago, they are all university grads with shinny diploma on the wall that know nothing, they have all a preset made up plan to treat you, and if it does not work they give you pills. Its all planed. My medical doctor last time asked me if i was given pills for my pain, why do you think he gave me androgel instead of giving me the real thing, he makes a lot more money when prescribing androgel which is crap, hey don't take my word for it the endo i saw yesterday told me so, many people switch to injections to get full benefits of TRT.

Has i said many times to many people here don't be afraid to go elsewhere, to find another better medical doctor, endo or else, time is wasted with idiots. My medical doctor last told me i had Ehler Danlos stage 1, that idiot never bothered researching the thing i guess and was quick to brag about a cirque du soleil women he treated that had the disease, you know the people that can twist there body all kind of ways.

Well Ehler Danlos is a pretty serious diagnostic because people who have it, is hereditary btw have loose ligaments across the body, dislocated members happen all the time, pain, and a lot more. They can take there finger and pull it almost all the way down, and more.

I don't have Ehler Danlos when i went back i told him and he said no you have ligament laxity............ You see 99.9% of them are all idiots.

[JD250]

Keep us posted on how this cycle works for you, keep a log, I'm interested in how the Masteron treats you, will you be using an AI also?

BTW....you may want to edit your post, not sure exactly what your saying but it sounds like we're discussing prices that are not from a pharmacy or legit prescription.

Good luck bro, keep us posted on this.

[gixxerboy1]

please edit the prices out.
unless your taking mast e then 2x a week is not the right protocol.
And by the way this dr isnt good. He is a drug dealer with a prescription pad.
i dont know why he would recommend dextrose with hgh. that is a bad idea

[yannick35]

please edit the prices out.
unless your taking mast e then 2x a week is not the right protocol.
And by the way this dr isnt good. He is a drug dealer with a prescription pad.
i dont know why he would recommend dextrose with hgh. that is a bad idea

NO NO NO NO HGH with dextrose is for prolotherapy treatments it really is not part of my TRT plan.

Masterone is the AI has i have been told, i read a lot about this last night too and make total sense.

Yes i can keep a log, i am trying to drop the pounds, my dosage are really low, i am taking masterone twice a week split in 100mg for a total for 200mg per week, deca one shot 200mg per week and test E 200mg per week has well.

I am not looking into growing, building muscles right now, i am looking into repairing my body this is my ultimate goal, i have changed my diet really radical changes too. You are right about the comment drug dealer with a pad, but man this guy is the best in the buisness, he fixed some serious injuries with 20 weeks cycle like mine.

HGH and prolo will begin in about 6 weeks since all my dosage are fairly low i am giving it time to build in my system and the masteron to kick in. I have been very tired lately and i guess its because estrogen started to convert all that testosterone that i had in my body and without and AI i gained some serious fat.

[yannick35]

Prices where edited from my post

[gixxerboy1]

mast has some ai like properties but i would never use it as an ai. There are much better choices such as a-dex or aromasin .
And unstable blood levels can cause other side effects. Mast half life is to short to inject 2x a week. Unless its mast e

what i was saying about the dextrose and gh. is the gh already makes you insulin resistant which will cause a raise in your blood glucose. So taking dextrose is going to make that worse. High blood glucose calls with all other kinds of sides and long term issues.

[yannick35]

mast has some ai like properties but i would never use it as an ai. There are much better choices such as a-dex or aromasin .
And unstable blood levels can cause other side effects. Mast half life is to short to inject 2x a week. Unless its mast e

what i was saying about the dextrose and gh. is the gh already makes you insulin resistant which will cause a raise in your blood glucose. So taking dextrose is going to make that worse. High blood glucose calls with all other kinds of sides and long term issues.

Dextrose + GH fix lax ligaments, its common prolotherapy to cause inflammation to the site, with the GH its going to repair everything.

I do understand that concern too gixxerboy1 and i was really put on TRT just like that, my medical doctor has been known to make mistakes in the past, this is why with this endo after i finish my 20 weeks he will check if my levels are normal for my age and i might not even have to be on TRT.

Last year results where 7 which he told me for a men my age is normal. But we are still waiting for this year results and my medical doctor told me with my pains and hacks my testosterone level might have gone down.

I don't enjoy pinning myself each week even worst twice per week, and i don't want to switch back to androgel because i have been told its not good, i had the worst side effects when i was on this too for my first month.

Also since i am with this endo and yes he is a drug dealer with a pad the stuff is not cheap, i will not put prices on here has been told but with my average salary and paycheck and house to pay i might not be able to afford this for very long.

I got enough money save for a 20 week cycle but afterward i might try to convince my medical doctor who prescribe the testosterone to give me some armidex. Armidex is very expensive without insurance and with a prescription it will cost near 300$ for about 2 months or so. Not sure how much the insurance covers on this, i have never heard of masterone being prescribe other then cancer patience and for women with breast cancer, deca is given to cancer patience and HIV positive. For sure my medical doctor is against deca he told me its worthless he knows nothing and he will never give me a prescription for this either.

[gixxerboy1]

look into research sites for an ai

[SEOINAGE]

you keep making posts, i'm meeting with this guy, or we are starting this treatment or this and that. Stick with one thread please!!!!!!! Too many new threads saying the same thing, I am getting confused, lol.

[yannick35]

Seoinage i will stick with this one good thing ok no problem.

[Vettester]

Agree with Gix, I would never use Mast for an AI. Adex through the research sites work GREAT, and the price is right!

I'll read through it again, but the protocol (initially) is a bit confusing.

[lvs]

sounds like this thread belongs in the other forum... not sure what this has to do with HRT/TRT

[yannick35]

sounds like this thread belongs in the other forum... not sure what this has to do with HRT/TRT

I am on TRT, well started on TRT if you read everything you should know this, i have recently changed to a 20 week cycle to heal my body then i will be back on TRT

[yannick35]

You guys are talking about Liquid Tamox 50mL right for an AI? if so how should i take this thanks.

[yannick35]

I read that if no sides and gyno are apparent then masteron is very good has an AI, since i am taking 200mg of test E every 10 days which is far spread i don't think i will have any issues. I decided to switch from 7 to 10 days.

I will call the guy this morning to ask him if i can do this for that cycle instead

deca , masteron and test E 100mg each every 5 days.

Since its such a long cycle i might get away with it after that back on TRT.

I will also try to go see my medical doctor and try to get a prescription for an AI, so i will save money on this too.

[yannick35]

I found this on another forum found it very useful pretty much what the guy that sold me deca and masteron said too:

Go look up masteron bro. You know why masteron was invented and what its medical use is for. Well it was made for women. Made for what? aaah yes for the treatment estrogen dependent breast tumors HMMMM so yes masteron can address the root of the problem which is estrogen. That is what its medical use is for.

Teslac ,Aromasin , are both technically steroids too.

What dose Nolvadex do? it competes for the estrogen receptor and what was it created for? same thing masteron was crested for. for the treatment estrogen dependent breast tumors.

So what dose masterone do? Well the dihydrotestosterone competes for the estrogen receptor of course. It also decreasing estrogen receptor binding with estrogen.


Will taking more have more of a effect. HMMM It all depends on the cycle. Can it be used as a tool to keep estro in check during a cycle? yes How much so depends on the cycle and the user.

Also I think it should be noted that masteron also has a effect on the progesterone receptor. And nolva,adex,letro do not.

[Vettester]

You guys are talking about Liquid Tamox 50mL right for an AI? if so how should i take this thanks.

Tamox is NOT an AI. Do not use it for this. We're talking about the products like liquid arimidex , letro, etc.

[yannick35]

Tamox is NOT an AI. Do not use it for this. We're talking about the products like liquid arimidex, letro, etc.

For now since i got no sides i guess i can wait and use materon instead, armidex is very expensive without a prescription and i cannot afford this on my salary.

I just called the guy that sold me my deca and masteron to confirm with him, he said that if test E is taken every 10 days at 200mg which is fairly low everything will be fine, he said that if i was on a cycle of say 400mg test E per week that would be a lot different and masteron would not cut it then.

I manage to lose 5 pounds since last week and modifying my diet, i will keep everything in close check for now and if sides show up i will look into letro.

Thanks again guys you are great

My new protocol for now is has followed

I will split dosage and do a longer cycle, deca 100mg, masteron 100mg and test E 100mg every 5 days, and maybe do a 25 week cycle since i will be stretching my gear for a bit longer, instead of injection masteron every 4 days deca 200mg once every 7 days and Test E once every 7 days.

So the dosage have been spread, and since the cycle will be longer i will still get the full effect.

I really hated pinning myself 3 times per week when i was on a real cycle, twice is best for me.

I also got some new needle size 22 gauge , and 23 gauge which i find harder then the 21 but the gear goes in a lot fasteré

[yannick35]

Public Health Recommendations

What are current public health recommendations for protein?

Recommendations for protein intake are based on the concept of "nitrogen balance." Protein contains nitrogen, and as proteins are broken down in the body, nitrogen is excreted. Consequently, nitrogen must be continually replaced through the diet (as protein) so that the body can continue to make proteins.

For most adults, an even nitrogen balance is ideal, meaning that the amount of nitrogen provided in the diet is equivalent to the amount of nitrogen excreted. In contrast, children require a positive nitrogen balance to support growth and development, meaning that more nitrogen is supplied by the diet (as protein) than is eliminated. Pregnant and lactating women also require a positive nitrogen balance.

In 2002, the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) set Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs) for protein for all age groups 7 months and older, and Adequate Intake (AI) levels for infants 0-6 months of age. The daily standards set by the NAS were as follows:

Boys and girls aged 0-6 months: 9.1 grams
Boys and girls aged 7 months to 1 year: 13.5 grams
Boys and girls aged 1-3 years: 13 grams
Boys and girls aged 4-8 years: 19 grams
Boys and girls aged 9-13 years: 34 grams
Males aged 14-18 years: 52 grams
Males aged 19+: 56 grams
Females aged 14+ years: 46 grams

I am seriously looking into this, i have recently cut my red meat intake to twice a week, cut out the whey protein shakes, i have not cut out my mean source of protein which is whole eggs.

The guy that sold me the deca and masteron told me that best to stay lean is a semi vegetarian diet, he said all the guys he put on this lost huge amount of fat. I started eating lentils and a more complete diet with fruits and veggies and am feeling better.

My total protein intake is around 70g per day, i guess i will stick to this diet and see how it goes. I really like that guy mentality about supplement and the fact that with a good diet you don't need any. Testosterone will also help direct foods into muscles instead of fat has will deca.

[yannick35]

Small update worth mentioning, i trained legs yesterday, i got my whole home gym in my basement and bought a leg press hack squat station that i paid 2000$ with 8 45 plates. That really broke my heart because i was unable to use it for nearly 2 years.

I will never squat again nor due deadlifts, they put too much pressure on my spine, i love the leg press and hack squat, everything went amazing yesterday, i was able to lift the whole 8 plates, for 8 solid reps and i did the hack squat with 2 45 plates on each side.

No hip pains nothing, i also did some leg extension.

Today i trained chest and biceps, everything went very well too, except for my right shoulder that bothered me a bit, but still better then last week.

[yannick35]

Also going back to the medical doctor on Febuary 17th 9am, got a lot to talk to him about..................

[Vettester]

For now since i got no sides i guess i can wait and use materon instead, armidex is very expensive without a prescription and i cannot afford this on my salary.

I just called the guy that sold me my deca and masteron to confirm with him, he said that if test E is taken every 10 days

Sell the $2,000 hack squat station and you can get some arimidex .

Also, the "guy" that sold you the compounds ... This is a doctor, right?

[yannick35]

Sell the $2,000 hack squat station and you can get some arimidex .

Also, the "guy" that sold you the compounds ... This is a doctor, right?

The guy that sold me the compound is a endo, a personal trainer and more.

I am not selling my home gym for anything, i paid close to 5000$ for the whole thing including incline bench, multi station machine with lat and close pulley rows, the leg press, a big wavemaster xxl punching bag, barbells and dumbells and stair master.

I got all i need at home to train, and enough weights to keep me in shape.

[yannick35]

FYI deca durabolin can be prescribed legally for someone who has HIV or cancer other then that good luck because it won't happen, masteron will be prescribe to women who have breast cancer. They will never prescribe it for men.

[Vettester]

The guy that sold me the compound is a endo, a personal trainer and more.

I am not selling my home gym for anything, i paid close to 5000$ for the whole thing including incline bench, multi station machine with lat and close pulley rows, the leg press, a big wavemaster xxl punching bag, barbells and dumbells and stair master.

I got all i need at home to train, and enough weights to keep me in shape.

I'll give you $1,000 for it, plus a bottle of liquidex! And, if you respond in the next 10 minutes, I will throw in a case of muscle milk and a set of knives. Supplies are limited, so act now!

[ecsaaron]

After reading this JPK I understand now

[yannick35]

After reading this JPK I understand now

So why do you bother reading it, i never forced anyone to do so, is your life that boring. Cheese, its like the howard stern show everyone hates what he says but they gotta read it, or the new metallica albums you know they are going to be bad and deceive you but you still gotta listen. Sad what the world is turning into theses day.