PT-141 + Cialis = Anxiety!

[956Vette]

PT 141 should be used a few times a month with a week or more between injections. The more one takes does not increase effectiveness...rather, it suppresses response

strange how this can make zero sense

I like .5mg both Friday and Saturday nights for good serum levels throughout the entire weekend and great morning erections for sex.

and this accidental good advice comes about

[956Vette]

I only take 100mcg of iPT-141 along with homebrew liquid cialis/Viagra ( 40mg/ml cialis & 50mg/ml viagra ) no flushing in the face.works for days. Being that I take such a low dose of the iPT-141 I take it daily with my GHRP6.

Winner winner, chicken.... thanks for sharing - a touch of synthetic aphrodisic research peptides and research chems can work wonders

[956Vette]

I suppose it is possible to get a "bad" batch. I don't really know how difficult this stuff is to make but I have a feeling it is pretty simple. I seem to be more resistant to "chemicals" and perhaps you are also. Whenever I have had pain meds in the past it always seemed I needed higher doses for them to be effective. It could be the same with pt-141.

More time researching and less time airing bogus thoughts would serve the community well. The synthesis, sensitivity and effectiveness of peptides is highly complex - please re-evaluate & do not increase the haphazard dosage/usage of research chemicals.

[956Vette]

you are going to go blind

best post. lmfao

[956Vette]

Personally I'd just do the pt-141 by itself at least the first time. I used melanotan 2 which has the same effect on libido and wow it was something. I'm going to give pt-141 a try soon myself. Again if you don't need the cialis I'd just try pt by itself. My 2 cents.

vinnietrt

True that. PT-141/MT-2 sexual results blow PDE5s out of the water (however long term are unsustainable). Addition of PDE5s are for porn stars and/or the extremely ill/imbalanced.

[956Vette]

I haven't heard anyone complaining about priapism.

over-dosing melanotan 2/pt141 is common for the committed researcher, many learn the hard way - loss of sleep, plenty of discomfort and possible damage to one's member is indeed reality (however mind should relax, mind over matter...hospitalization is likely not in the cards for the mainstream - never heard of such a report)

[Times Roman]

over-dosing melanotan 2/pt141 is common for the committed researcher, many learn the hard way - loss of sleep, plenty of discomfort and possible damage to one's member is indeed reality (however mind should relax, mind over matter...hospitalization is likely not in the cards for the mainstream - never heard of such a report)

Yes, I agree that I've had nights where it was difficult to sleep. Additionally, the occurance of wood on and off, all night long also makes for interesting dreams when they do come. The next day, i usually wake up hard, as in a low grade hangover, with a mild headache as well.

I do understand that priapism does occur, but my point is that i don't have any first or second knowledge of it occuring.

[Brazensol]

This sort of lacking due diligence places the OP way outside the scope of being an appropriate PDE5 + PT-141 researcher (imho)

How so? Is this forum not for learning?

[Brazensol]

First attempt: .5mg or 1mg

Is the 20mg Cialis? If so, take at the same time.

I've read experiences where men didn't get the response they were looking for on the first couple of attempts but when they purchased from another peptide site they got the experience they were looking for.

I believe there are differences in quality depending where you purchased from...I see that complaint often.

I might have to try another source.

[956Vette]

How so? Is this forum not for learning?

Indeed, hopeful my caution(s) will lead you to slow down & read more as anxiety w/ melanocortins often do not mix (or yield desired result) - best of luck

[steroid.com 1]

^^^This I agree as well...albeit to some of his, but but not all, of his other posts here.

Stress and anxiety along with a heightened expectation can inhibit the effects of PT 141...it's in your head kind of thing.

Take it and for get it...and take it sparingly.

[steroid.com 1]

True that. PT-141/MT-2 sexual results blow PDE5s out of the water (however long term are unsustainable). Addition of PDE5s are for porn stars and/or the extremely ill/imbalanced.

Huge generalization here...

Show me more then one controlled study where it proves that PT 141/MT-II "blows a PDE5i out of the water.."

I can show you a ton of posts where men got no response to either PT 141 & MT II regardless of the dosage.

Anything we men purchase on the Internet are "research quality" product and God only knows the quality of what we are injecting.

It's why I think some men get great response and others don't...besides the other suppression issues.

Risk v reward but that's the truth....

[Brazensol]

^^^This I agree as well...albeit to some of his, but but not all, of his other posts here.

Stress and anxiety along with a heightened expectation can inhibit the effects of PT 141...it's in your head kind of thing.

Take it and for get it...and take it sparingly.

Perhaps my title to the original post is a bit misleading. Not particulary "anxious" in the 'can't eat or sleep because I am so worried' kind of anxious. (After flying many low-level missions through the mountinis in Alaska at night in C-130's, not many things worry me anymore). Concerned would be more to the truth. I am not prone to 'high anxiety' so that was not the cause of it not working in my case. Perhaps a bad batch or like you mentioned, not effective the first couple of times. I will try a new source and see how it goes another time. Soon! Perhaps I will try the site sponser.

[steroid.com 1]

perhaps my title to the original post is a bit misleading. Not particulary "anxious" in the 'can't eat or sleep because i am so worried' kind of anxious. (after flying many low-level missions through the mountinis in alaska at night in c-130's, not many things worry me anymore). Concerned would be more to the truth. I am not prone to 'high anxiety' so that was not the cause of it not working in my case. Perhaps a bad batch or like you mentioned, not effective the first couple of times. I will try a new source and see how it goes another time. Soon! Perhaps i will try the site sponser.

nice!

[956Vette]

Huge generalization here...

Show me more then one controlled study where it proves that PT 141/MT-II "blows a PDE5i out of the water.."

I can show you a ton of posts where men got no response to either PT 141 & MT II regardless of the dosage.

Anything we men purchase on the Internet are "research quality" product and God only knows the quality of what we are injecting.

It's why I think some men get great response and others don't...besides the other suppression issues.

Risk v reward but that's the truth....

PT-141 is the synthetic aphrodisiac - Viagra pushes blood around - where is the huge generalization or problem bro? (Please don't respond)
rest assured PT-141 bremelanotide will never make it to market or become mainstream - you won't need to concern yourself w/
yes.... sex on drugs/aphrodisiacs can outshine the full of blood experience imho (assume you won't require posts/proof....)
no I will not provide studies (that aren't in existence) or attempt to explain melanocortin (user) feedback, sorry
I take responsibility for knowing what quality of product - leaving "God" out of my synthetic usage
I remain confident you are not qualified to share truth/expertise on the subj and should therefore refrain from sharing theories based on inability to purchase products for research over the internet

[steroid.com 1]

i remain confident you are not qualified to share truth/expertise on the subj and should therefore refrain from sharing theories based on inability to purchase products for research over the internet

lmao!!!!

[steroid.com 1]

I've used enough PT 141 to have and hold an opinion and express my experiences with fellow members...

[Times Roman]

Ive used PT-141 about 16 times, and i feel this is an adequate enough experiential level to be able to form and express an opinion.

The other issue is this:

Not every product will effect everyone the same way.

Therefore, it is a good idea for OP to get a wide and diverse data set of opinions to be able to judge and weigh possible outcomes for themselves.

Just saying....

[956Vette]

I've used enough PT 141 to have and hold an opinion and express my experiences with fellow members...

go ahead and dumb down the forum then
good riddance - add to ignore list - good luck

[956Vette]

Ive used PT-141 about 16 times, and i feel this is an adequate enough experiential level to be able to form and express an opinion.

The other issue is this:

Not every product will effect everyone the same way.

Therefore, it is a good idea for OP to get a wide and diverse data set of opinions to be able to judge and weigh possible outcomes for themselves.

Just saying....

your peptide perspective is highly valued and thoughtful - always appreciative of your quality .02 TR

[Brazensol]

Tried again last night. Did not get any nausea or flushing. The injection (1.5 mgs vs. .75 mgs last time) really burned while injecting and about 2-3 minutes after. Is this normal? Anyway, I did not get the backache I had last time but did have leg pain in both legs. Kind of felt like when you get the flu - just an all around aching feeling. Otherwise same results as last time; no increase in libido/desire levels from the normal. I will try one more time but from a different supplier. Sadly this stuff just doesn't seem to work on me...

Of course I don't seem to be getting much benefit from trt (120 mgs/every 3.5 days) or armor thyroid either. Blood tests next week. I have upped my armor thyroid from .75 mgs to 2.0 mgs and also added isocort (3 at breakfast, 3 lunch, 2 dinner) with no notable effects. Maybe I just need larger amounts of meds due to some kind of hyper resistance? Thoughts???

[oscarjones]

Like TR said; I wouldn't worry about Priapism as well.

5mg of Tadalafil (Cialis) is very low dose if you're taking it daily (which you should it's very good for you healthwise) and of the 3 PDE5i class drugs it's the weakest of the bunch so you'll be fine.

.5mg on Friday nite and again Saturday nite will give you a rock star weekend coupled with the Cialis both days.

IF you're not taking the daily Cialis now, you will want to start now...need to build up serum levels at that low dose or you can start out with a 20mg today and 5mg Friday and again on Saturday.

Finally, if you are really worried about Priapism buy some Sudafed and keep it on hand; it will get rid of Priapism most of the time IF it does occur.

Let's be careful not to prescribe things, unless you're basing this information on some type of medical background? In which case it's just as bad.

Also, priapism IS something to worry about especially when combining two forms of stimuli. One works on the nerves, the other blood.

Honestly, if you accidentally were to administer the wrong amount of even 1 of these drugs (I assume it's a research brand of Cialis and so who knows if it's an accurately compounded batch) and it resulted in priapism for 12 hours or longer you would need your member amputated due to tissue necrosis.

That being said, I'm not trying to scare anyone, and any smart guy would seek medical attention before 12 hours, however in my opinion, better be safe than sorry, or at least use something like sildenafil citrate which has a shorter half-life.

[Times Roman]

Tried again last night. Did not get any nausea or flushing. The injection (1.5 mgs vs. .75 mgs last time) really burned while injecting and about 2-3 minutes after. Is this normal? Anyway, I did not get the backache I had last time but did have leg pain in both legs. Kind of felt like when you get the flu - just an all around aching feeling. Otherwise same results as last time; no increase in libido/desire levels from the normal. I will try one more time but from a different supplier. Sadly this stuff just doesn't seem to work on me...

Of course I don't seem to be getting much benefit from trt (120 mgs/every 3.5 days) or armor thyroid either. Blood tests next week. I have upped my armor thyroid from .75 mgs to 2.0 mgs and also added isocort (3 at breakfast, 3 lunch, 2 dinner) with no notable effects. Maybe I just need larger amounts of meds due to some kind of hyper resistance? Thoughts???

no. it is NOT normal. what are you reconstituting it with?

something else to think of...

when you pre swab the injection site, are you leaving it fairly wet? I ask because I've pinned when still wet and pulled in a slight amount of alchohol with the needle, and this caused me a burning sensation. Injection site should be dry when you pin.............

[Brazensol]

It may have been slightly wet, didn't pay that much attention to be honest. Pretty much followed same steps for pinning T-cyp and never had a burn from that yet. I used bacteriostatic water to reconstitute.

[vinceproduction]

For what it's worth I've noticed burning when reconstituting any peps with sterile water like I received from the sponsors site. When using bacteriostatic I don't get any sting or burn.

[Times Roman]

I always reconstitute with ba water, never sterile water. and it never burns. except when i pin and the alchohol swab moisture hasn't dried yet (rare)

[oscarjones]

You should try injecting Caverjet (PGE-1) into your cock. You need reconstitute with acetic acid and that shit burns! I say suck it up.

[vinceproduction]

Lol yeah I have a pretty high pain threshold and I have to say no way i could ever do it! I give you a lot of credit man! And TR yep I'll always use ba from now on. I just used what came with them and never again.