Thread: 71yo TRT question.
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07-27-2012, 02:40 AM #1
71yo TRT question.
Hello everyone.
My question is about my father, he is just about to turn 71.
He is basically (in his words) trying to squeeze as much life into what time he has left.
But over the last two years I have watched his body get smaller and weaker, he to has noted the change in his size and strength.
His best friend of around 40 years (he died a few years back in his 80s) was strong as an ox up until his death, when my father had asked him about it he was told that he was receiving testosterone shots from his doctor.
My father has asked his doctor about them but was denied. I have been to this doctor when I was younger but refused to go back to him because in my opinion he is a dick. Anyway, my father cannot change doctors as it would just cause problems and suspicion from my mother who would go apeshit if she found out my father was trying to get trt.
Anyway, here are a few questions that if anyone could answer I would be most appreciative...
What would be a good testosterone for him?
I can get sustanon250 in 10ml vials, if this is adequate how often should he pin and how much per pin?
Cheers ~WB~
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07-27-2012, 05:59 AM #2HRT
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First and foremost, don't supervise a medical and drug protocol on your father unless you are a licensed medical practitioner. You could easily end up hurting your father relative to any good you can do him.
Read the stickies at the top of the forum and you will see that TRT in men is much more then just "what's a good testosterone for him." It all about the right balance of hormones in a man not just one.
Another more safer option is finding the right Doctor who will provide your beloved father with the right care...and there's a sticky for that here as well.
Keep us posted on his outcome.
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07-27-2012, 06:37 AM #3
Im sorry to hear about the changes in ur dad. I live across the country from my dad and notice the same kind of issues every time I go home to visit. At this age in life i am sure that there were many other factors to why ur fathers friend was a strong man until the end. Although, i dont agree with your fathers doctor for not listening to his issues, i do not believe that you should try to get involved in this issue. Your dad is in his 70s. If he needs to seek advice from another doctor he should. I dont see why your mom would go disagree at this point if it could improve his quality of life. And if she does disagree then he just has to think about himself. She put up with him this long. I guess im just trying to say that i dont think its a great idea to play doctor with a senior. Good luck.
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07-27-2012, 07:47 AM #4
I'm sorry to hear about your dad's health. I agree it really sucks seeing our parents go through something that can be fixed or helped if they merely had the right doctor. That being said, I agree with the other guys, and would not recommend playing doctor no matter how good your intentions. Too much to monitor and tweak to just pick a number and go. I do understand family thinking you're insane for even considering testosterone therapy as I went through this and got the 3rd degree from a ton of my family. They're all just misinformed and biased from all the bad media they've heard about "roids". I would show your mother all of the proof of health benefits such as lower chance of prostate cancer, lower blood pressure, better cholesterol values, etc. Show her that his chances of getting diabetes go way down when on theraputic levels of testosterone . Basically prove to her that he'd not be "using steroids " to bulk up or merely to feel good (although why is that a bad thing anyways?) But show her the health benefits and how he'll likely be around a lot longer than otherwise. Good luck man!
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07-27-2012, 11:34 AM #5
i agree with GDevine, if your father has any medical condition TRT could do more harm than good, a complete male hormone panel needs to be done to see whats going on, at this age I'll check the prostate and make sure he has no problems there, but a complete blood work is needed to be able to diagnose. i know how you feel, and it is sad that he has to hide his needs from your mom! i went through rejection from my wife too because she related TRT to narcotics! but in time and some reading she is more accepting. my dad also has shrunk at least 4", it makes me sad to see him deteriorate especially when i know something can be done, but its his decision and i can't make him do what he doesn't want. good thing your father is willing to take care of himself. best of luck.
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07-27-2012, 11:41 AM #6
My pops is thick as a brick and won't listen. He's 74, has a bum leg, and is beginning to let himself go. Although he listens when i talk to him about trt, he won't try it. It took almost ten years of me preaching the benefits of MSM, and then, finally, he tried it.....
...."hey, that stuff works!"
anyways, at your pops age, best to not play doctor. Let your mom complain, but get your dad, if you can, to the right doctor.
Good luck!
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07-27-2012, 03:08 PM #7
Like all the above said. Educate your mom to the benefits of TRT. He should not suffer due to her stubborness.
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07-27-2012, 03:45 PM #8
Fair call, guys.
Thanks for your replies, views and opinions.
I'll talk to my mum when I can and try to convince her and my dad that a bit of doctor shopping is in order.
Oh, just so y'all know, I'm not playing doctor as such, he asked me if I could get test for him. He wants it, I just said I'd ask on here for some more information for him.
Anyway, I just linked him to the "Finding a TRT Physician" thread, hopefully he can use some of that info in finding a better, more suited doctor.
Thanks again
~WB~
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Couldn't agree more with this.
Find the right doctor. And if you dad feels that finding the right doctor is not worth it, then you will obviously know how willing he is to start TRT in the first place.
Its a quality of life treatment, and if this makes his wife hate him, I promise you he will not enjoy the new therapy.
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