Self Bleeding!

[600@50]

Plain old aspirin. ........ acetylsalicylic acid. Not Tylenol which is acetaminophen.

[bass]

I am going to give a double red donation Tuesday

We are talking aspirin, like exact of willow, not acetaminophen, correct?

just make sure you answer NO when they ask if you've taken aspirin or blood thinners.

[Obs]

just make sure you answer NO when they ask if you've taken aspirin or blood thinners.

I just donated for the first time. It firmly planted me on my ass. Finally getting energy back after sleeping and eating like a horse. Did not expect it would affect me in any way. Glad thats over. Hats off to you for doing it youself bass.

[Sacharidacek]

I am glad that I can thanks to Bass for instructional video.. It works really good. Btw I am not doing this because I have high RBC from steroids , but because I had high iron. Guys if you want stay healthy. Make sure that ferritin (storage protein for iron) will stay under 100 ideally around 50. Reference range is to high even 100 is not ideal leat alone 300-400.. You don't need to have hemochromatosis. Every person accumulate iron over time. Especially bodybuilders who are eating crazy amounts of red meat and overall high amounts of iron.. Your body can eliminate excess of iron only via bleeding... Btw this is the main reason why females live longer and why they have much lower incidence of cardiovascular diseases, strokes, heart attacks etc.. Because they are losing blood monthly. But in menopause they will start to accumulate iron as well.. But male is accumulating iron in the body from age 18-19.. We do need iron. Especially when we grow as kids and pregnant woman needs more iron, but adults need only small amount of iron and it should be only in circulation. But these days when we have fortification of flour, flour products, cereals etc..( one serving of cornflakes has around 15mg of toxic form of inorganic iron..) Then we eat a lot of muscle meat, then alcohol and sugar will increase iron absorbtion etc.. basically all degenerative diseases from cancer, MS, alzheimer etc.. It is all related to increased oxidative stress from to much iron in the body.. So please just make sure that you know ferritin is not above 100 (ideally 50) and keep donate blood it is win win for everybody.. I was gym rat on roids, but now I am just about health. I had ferritin 300. I was feeling like shit. I can't donate, but it is ok now when I know how to self bleed. Now my ferritin is under 100 and I feel much better. If is someone interested in this topic. There is some easy to understand info..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fccu-V06eS8&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQI-9lAsNwo&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrdy5IcCLis&t=13s
https://freetheanimal.com/2015/06/en...verything.html

first attempt was epic fail 10ml


second attempt was better with thicker needle .. 250ml


And now its going ok 500ml no problem. Next time I will try aspirin before..


Also friend who is really health oriented is knowledgeable about bloodletting and keeping iron low etc.. He can donate, but If I can do it. He can also apparently..

[Ashop]

I just donated for the first time. It firmly planted me on my ass. Finally getting energy back after sleeping and eating like a horse. Did not expect it would affect me in any way. Glad thats over. Hats off to you for doing it youself bass.

It can definitely do that too you. It takes me about a day and a half to feel like I've fully recovered.
Well worth doing though.

[gymffiti]

I am glad that I can thanks to Bass for instructional video.. It works really good. Btw I am not doing this because I have high RBC from steroids , but because I had high iron. Guys if you want stay healthy. Make sure that ferritin (storage protein for iron) will stay under 100 ideally around 50. Reference range is to high even 100 is not ideal leat alone 300-400.. You don't need to have hemochromatosis. Every person accumulate iron over time. Especially bodybuilders who are eating crazy amounts of red meat and overall high amounts of iron.. Your body can eliminate excess of iron only via bleeding... Btw this is the main reason why females live longer and why they have much lower incidence of cardiovascular diseases, strokes, heart attacks etc.. Because they are losing blood monthly. But in menopause they will start to accumulate iron as well.. But male is accumulating iron in the body from age 18-19.. We do need iron. Especially when we grow as kids and pregnant woman needs more iron, but adults need only small amount of iron and it should be only in circulation. But these days when we have fortification of flour, flour products, cereals etc..( one serving of cornflakes has around 15mg of toxic form of inorganic iron..) Then we eat a lot of muscle meat, then alcohol and sugar will increase iron absorbtion etc.. basically all degenerative diseases from cancer, MS, alzheimer etc.. It is all related to increased oxidative stress from to much iron in the body.. So please just make sure that you know ferritin is not above 100 (ideally 50) and keep donate blood it is win win for everybody.. I was gym rat on roids, but now I am just about health. I had ferritin 300. I was feeling like shit. I can't donate, but it is ok now when I know how to self bleed. Now my ferritin is under 100 and I feel much better. If is someone interested in this topic. There is some easy to understand info..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fccu-V06eS8&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQI-9lAsNwo&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrdy5IcCLis&t=13s
https://freetheanimal.com/2015/06/en...verything.html

first attempt was epic fail 10ml


second attempt was better with thicker needle .. 250ml


And now its going ok 500ml no problem. Next time I will try aspirin before..


Also friend who is really health oriented is knowledgeable about bloodletting and keeping iron low etc.. He can donate, but If I can do it. He can also apparently..

Very interesting

My last checked Iron level was 11. umol/L, which I thought was low / low end of normal range

However, my Ferritin 165. ug/L

[DocToxin8]

I need to start bleeding properly.
I've been lazy and quick so I've just took aspirin and placed a 21G in my calf,
a sort of torniquet over the blood vessel to increase pressure,
and A measuring cup that it strips down into.

Usually just 100-110mls this way.
Got myself 18g needles to now it's gonna be different.
Has some hospital equipment like veneflon, catheters, pipes for this and that.
So shouldn't have a problem making a pump now.

Was wondering if I could use water pressure like in an tap water vacuum apparatus.

[DocToxin8]

Got hematocrit at 0,50 now (ref 0,4-0,5 for men)
RBCs little high
Hemoglobin a little high

Shall find MCV and the rest.

[Sacharidacek]

Very interesting

My last checked Iron level was 11. umol/L, which I thought was low / low end of normal range

However, my Ferritin 165. ug/L

Bro you don't understand how this works. IRON in SERUM DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. You can't have high serum iron. You would be already dead.. The body will hide excess of iron to the tissues- organs and transport proteins like ferritin and yes 165 is already way too high.. Watch videos I posted. You should keep ferritin under 50 ideally.. Iron serum does not matter. As long as you don't have low Hemoglobin and RBC you are ok and you can keep donating blood. The less iron zou have in the body the better. Iron should be ONLY in cyrculation = hemoglobin=RBC and not stored in the liver, heart, etc.. where it can cause oxidative stress which is depleting all antioxidants vitC, E, A, magnesium, glutathion etc.. Btw don't forget that ALL pathogens, viruses, cancer cells, bacteria, fungi, candida etc.. They all Need iron.. So if you have only maximum minimum of iron in the body in red blood cells. All these bastards have no food.. But if they have iron everywhere. Guess what wil happened.. Just don't complicate things guys. Keep donate blood every two months and here and there check ferritin if it is good number. Thats it..

[Sacharidacek]

I need to start bleeding properly.
I've been lazy and quick so I've just took aspirin and placed a 21G in my calf,
a sort of torniquet over the blood vessel to increase pressure,
and A measuring cup that it strips down into.

Usually just 100-110mls this way.
Got myself 18g needles to now it's gonna be different.
Has some hospital equipment like veneflon, catheters, pipes for this and that.
So shouldn't have a problem making a pump now.

Was wondering if I could use water pressure like in an tap water vacuum apparatus.

You don't need any pump. Especially if you have higher BP.. Just dont eat fats 14 hours before, be well hydrated and take some aspirin before + you can also take some vit E or more omega 3.. All good blood thinners. Make sure that you have tight arm, so there will be enough pressure on veins. It will take max 10 min to get 500ml of blood..

[Mr.BB]

I am glad that I can thanks to Bass for instructional video.. It works really good. Btw I am not doing this because I have high RBC from steroids , but because I had high iron. Guys if you want stay healthy. Make sure that ferritin (storage protein for iron) will stay under 100 ideally around 50. Reference range is to high even 100 is not ideal leat alone 300-400.. You don't need to have hemochromatosis. Every person accumulate iron over time. Especially bodybuilders who are eating crazy amounts of red meat and overall high amounts of iron.. Your body can eliminate excess of iron only via bleeding... Btw this is the main reason why females live longer and why they have much lower incidence of cardiovascular diseases, strokes, heart attacks etc.. Because they are losing blood monthly. But in menopause they will start to accumulate iron as well.. But male is accumulating iron in the body from age 18-19.. We do need iron. Especially when we grow as kids and pregnant woman needs more iron, but adults need only small amount of iron and it should be only in circulation. But these days when we have fortification of flour, flour products, cereals etc..( one serving of cornflakes has around 15mg of toxic form of inorganic iron..) Then we eat a lot of muscle meat, then alcohol and sugar will increase iron absorbtion etc.. basically all degenerative diseases from cancer, MS, alzheimer etc.. It is all related to increased oxidative stress from to much iron in the body.. So please just make sure that you know ferritin is not above 100 (ideally 50) and keep donate blood it is win win for everybody.. I was gym rat on roids, but now I am just about health. I had ferritin 300. I was feeling like shit. I can't donate, but it is ok now when I know how to self bleed. Now my ferritin is under 100 and I feel much better. If is someone interested in this topic. There is some easy to understand info..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fccu-V06eS8&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQI-9lAsNwo&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrdy5IcCLis&t=13s
https://freetheanimal.com/2015/06/en...verything.html

first attempt was epic fail 10ml


second attempt was better with thicker needle .. 250ml


And now its going ok 500ml no problem. Next time I will try aspirin before..


Also friend who is really health oriented is knowledgeable about bloodletting and keeping iron low etc.. He can donate, but If I can do it. He can also apparently..

Do you mind backing your iron claims with actual medical studies or facts?

Although high iron is certainly not ideal I disagree with your statement to keep iron in minimal levels. Iron is an important element in our body, and its not "food for viruses, bacteria...", thats complete nonsense and false information.

Healthy levels of iron thats what one should aim for.

I will even debate whats is worse, low iron levels or higher hematocrit. In a low iron levels situation your body will try to preserve iron by elevating coagulation factor VIII, increasing the chance for clotting : Low serum iron levels are associated with elevated plasma levels of coagulation factor VIII and pulmonary emboli/deep venous thromboses in replicate cohorts of patients with hereditary haemorrhagic telangiectasia

Please read correctly what Im posting. Im not promoting iron indiscriminately, Im saying you should have normal, healthy iron levels.

[Sacharidacek]

Hm I was writing long post with some links, but I dont have 25 posts so there are some restrictions or what.. Anyway I will not argue with you if you can write something like this..

"and its not "food for viruses, bacteria...", thats complete nonsense and false information."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4331421/
"Iron is crucial for every kind of living organism, including plants, bacteria, animals and humans, to transport oxygen (through the haemoglobin in animals and humans) and to produce energy (through electron transfer in the mitochondrial respiratory chain). In addition, iron is essential for many metabolic processes, including DNA repair and replication, regulation of gene expression and so on. Many pathogens are thus highly dependent on iron supply and use different pathways to acquire or even steal iron from the environment or from their host"

[geezuschrist]

jesus christ I feel like a pussy I could never do that haha

[jmega]

so we can use any vein to self bleed? I am having a hard time finding the vein at the elbow, but have other veins along the forearm that are clearly visible.

[Sacharidacek]

so we can use any vein to self bleed? I am having a hard time finding the vein at the elbow, but have other veins along the forearm that are clearly visible.

You can bleed from every vein for sure, but I am not sure if you will be able to collect 500 ml of blood.. Just go donate blood if you can..

[Obs]

Bump.

Bass, the pioneer...

[EDCG19]

I've done it once

Not bad and simple to do if you can get the vein

I had to do this only one time before, actually ended up changing my TRT a little lower to get stable bloods and allowed to donate every 3-4 months

RBC issues..

[EDCG19]

You can bleed from every vein for sure, but I am not sure if you will be able to collect 500 ml of blood.. Just go donate blood if you can..

Some people go over the hemogloin limit and can't donate blood..

Highest Ive had mine shoot up is 20 and 57 for hematrocrti...

[EDCG19]

Bump.

Bass, the pioneer...

Strong bump from the grave....

[Obs]

Strong bump from the grave....

I was trying to do this the other day. Bass's idea with the container and two tubes is pretty awesome. It takes a guy thinking outside the box with a set of nuts to do what he did. Full respect given. Other boards scoff at the idea of self bleeding but some can't do it any other way. Bass solved their dilemma.

[Youthful55guy]

Your first option should always be to reevaluate you T dose protocol. Small frequent doses based on labs to keep your Free T up to at least the 50th percentile at the nadir of the injection cycle (i.e.,just prior to the next scheduled dose) should also keep your hemoglobin within range. If you need a refresher on what I mean by small frequent dosing, please visit this thread: https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...rting-trt.html

It is a good idea to donate blood as frequently as allowed. Combining this with dosing that keeps you T within physiological ranges should mean that self-phlebotomies should never be needed. yes, I realize that some guys are not eligible for blood donation, and for them, careful and wise dosing is a must.