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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    How much you take Vette?
    Yes. Inquiring minds want to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brazensol View Post
    Yes. Inquiring minds want to know!
    Approx. 4 to 5 grams per day. Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester

    Approx. 4 to 5 grams per day. Good stuff!
    Thanks Vette, I take 1 full teaspoon every morning with 8 oz cranberry juice which equates to 4-5 mgs. Taste like shit of course, but worth it in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    Thanks Vette, I take 1 full teaspoon every morning with 8 oz cranberry juice which equates to 4-5 mgs. Taste like shit of course, but worth it in my opinion.
    after all your endorsements, i ordered 2 pounds

    i was hoping this stuff was tasteless but i could put in my morning coffee (which at work already tastes like sh!t)!
    i ordered some from the bulkfoods.com. since i am maybe half your size, i should be taking 1/2 a teaspoon????

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    after all your endorsements, i ordered 2 pounds

    i was hoping this stuff was tasteless but i could put in my morning coffee (which at work already tastes like sh!t)!
    i ordered some from the bulkfoods.com. since i am maybe half your size, i should be taking 1/2 a teaspoon????
    you could try that.

    I wouldn't put it in anything you want to sip on and enjoy. what i do is just put straight in the mouth and wash down with water

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    yeh, they let me out every once in while..LOL.



    noooooo......i'm still getting carded! LOL but I have a pesty shoulder injury and ankle surgery coming up so I am going to have to order some of this stuff now! Thx!!!
    I know I'm starting to sound preachy, but this is something else to consider.............?
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-s-TB-500-log...........

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    i do full and halves. when i do preacher db curls light weight i go full 40lbs max when i start into the 50 and 60 lb i go half sometimes for negs i wear two wraps, the second i put on backwards and spot myself, works awesome

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    I took 4+ months off from lifting this summer while I was feeling terrible, before I started TRT. Now that I'm on the juice I went back to lifting and the amazing thing is my strength is still at 90% of my max if not 100%. The only issue is I benched this week and my shoulders are KILLING ME.

    I've benched a higher weight when I was younger, like 9 years ago with out any pain. I don't understand why my shoulders are hurting now all the sudden. I've been trying to study how powerlifers bench with their elbows tucked but I don't think I could actually do it yet, it's confusing to me.

    I think I'm going to take some time off of barbell bench (even though I really want to hit 250+ this year!) and just do DB press for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice2012 View Post
    I took 4+ months off from lifting this summer while I was feeling terrible, before I started TRT. Now that I'm on the juice I went back to lifting and the amazing thing is my strength is still at 90% of my max if not 100%. The only issue is I benched this week and my shoulders are KILLING ME.

    I've benched a higher weight when I was younger, like 9 years ago with out any pain. I don't understand why my shoulders are hurting now all the sudden. I've been trying to study how powerlifers bench with their elbows tucked but I don't think I could actually do it yet, it's confusing to me.

    I think I'm going to take some time off of barbell bench (even though I really want to hit 250+ this year!) and just do DB press for awhile.
    You've probably jumped up in weight too quickly without allowing the tendons & ligaments to strengthen adequately. Shoulders are a tricky spot for serious lifters. Old injuries can flare up at any time if you piss them off I've found. I'm often working around a sore shoulder more often then I'd like. What helps with me is a cycle of NSAIDs like Advil or Aleve taken strictly @ twice daily for a week or two plus an ice pack for periods of 20 mins while watching TV at night. Definitely reduce the weight to a point of only minor and/or no discomfort. Give it 3-4 weeks. If not better, go see an Orthopedic Surgeon to determine if you have any surface tears/full-thickness tears of the Rotator Cuff. I too cannot bench with my shoulders tucked in as you described. I've heard that this technique is less stressful on the shoulders. Substituting with DB presses or Hammer Strength machines can also help sometimes...

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    Thanks for the advice APIs. I've thought about seeing a doctor but they always tell me the same thing "oh your leg hurts when you lift? just don't lift!" I've always wondered if they would tell me the same thing if I told them it hurts when I breathe lol.

    It's been over 3 days since I benched and I think my shoulders are about 80% back to normal. I have been lifting everyday this week and they certainly haven't got worse. I have some prescription 750mg aleve for my knees that I can use if it gets too bad. Definitely taking a break from bench unfortunately..

    I've had shoulder pain like this before this year from benching, and it always heals within a week just never this bad before. Makes me wonder what's happening though, like why it hurts then heals. Or if I'm doing permanent damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice2012 View Post
    Thanks for the advice APIs. I've thought about seeing a doctor but they always tell me the same thing "oh your leg hurts when you lift? just don't lift!" I've always wondered if they would tell me the same thing if I told them it hurts when I breathe lol.

    It's been over 3 days since I benched and I think my shoulders are about 80% back to normal. I have been lifting everyday this week and they certainly haven't got worse. I have some prescription 750mg aleve for my knees that I can use if it gets too bad. Definitely taking a break from bench unfortunately..

    I've had shoulder pain like this before this year from benching, and it always heals within a week just never this bad before. Makes me wonder what's happening though, like why it hurts then heals. Or if I'm doing permanent damage.
    i want to punch them when they say this shit to me. fvckers. when i went to see my doctor due to having below normal T, he said its old age, deal with it. i was 49. what a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice2012 View Post
    Thanks for the advice APIs. I've thought about seeing a doctor but they always tell me the same thing "oh your leg hurts when you lift? just don't lift!" I've always wondered if they would tell me the same thing if I told them it hurts when I breathe lol.
    Shop for a good Ortho that will diagnose your shoulder pains. They're out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    you could try that.

    I wouldn't put it in anything you want to sip on and enjoy. what i do is just put straight in the mouth and wash down with water
    i tried in morning coffee. everything was fine until i got to the last 2 sips....nasty sour bitter...ruined the best part of my morning.

    gonna give this a try.

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    I am a big fan of dropping the flat barbell press and replacing it with the dumbells. you have to invest some money into heavy DB's but it makes all the difference. Still do barbell inclines with no pain. whatever works and whatever avoids the pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    i tried in morning coffee. everything was fine until i got to the last 2 sips....nasty sour bitter...ruined the best part of my morning.

    gonna give this a try.
    Bingo!

    My son and i just put straight in the mouth, and wash down with water. If you don't breathe through your nose, you wont' even taste it.

    for me, better to just get it over with the way i described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    Bingo!

    My son and i just put straight in the mouth, and wash down with water. If you don't breathe through your nose, you wont' even taste it.

    for me, better to just get it over with the way i described.
    yup...this is better!!! i enjoyed the coffee this morning! Thanks!!!

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