Sub-Q Testosterone Injections (study)

[TraceMYD]

Come on Trace. You can tell us the truth....

Hahaha!

[Talonin]

Hi guys, im new here. Are there any home tests that you would recommend for T, E, and the like? its a pain having to go to the doctor every few weeks to see where im at and why im feeling like crap. we all know HRT is something that you have to play with to find the sweet spot.

thanks in advance,
MC

[Brazensol]

Yup, more is not always better. Balance is they key when it comes to TRT.

Roger that. I'm cutting down to 50mgs x 2/week and in hopes of finding that elusive sweet spot!

[MickeyKnox]

Hi guys, im new here. Are there any home tests that you would recommend for T, E, and the like? its a pain having to go to the doctor every few weeks to see where im at and why im feeling like crap. we all know HRT is something that you have to play with to find the sweet spot.

thanks in advance,
MC

welcome to the forums Talonin.

please take the time to start your own thread. that way you won't highjack this one. thanks

[Phased]

First round of Sub-Q injections last night into naval area of stomach.
Dosage 100mg/1ml Prop
3 pins: .33,.33.34 ML

Exp, first pin went a little fast on the push minor pain, went away quickly, 2 subsequent pins were perfect slow injection, no lumps or pain.

Rating: No pip with sub-q prop vs. IM
Aftermath: No brusing or swelling or lumps in the fatty tissue.

Will be doing this again for more testing! But confident enough and glad to have dropped my AI last week.

[MickeyKnox]

First round of Sub-Q injections last night into naval area of stomach.
Dosage 100mg/1ml Prop
3 pins: .33,.33.34 ML

Exp, first pin went a little fast on the push minor pain, went away quickly, 2 subsequent pins were perfect slow injection, no lumps or pain.

Rating: No pip with sub-q prop vs. IM
No brushing or swelling or lumps in the fatty tissue

Will be doing this again for more testing! But confident enough and glad to have dropped my AI last week.

curious why you didn't use 2 pins @ .5 +.5? why 3? not necessarily questioning your method, asking for knowledge only. thanks Phased.

[Phased]

I'm testing my bodys acceptance of the new meathod.
.33ml is a smaller dose per site. Less chance of lumps, irritation and so forth. Subq with oil is different then subq with water. Next time I might try .5ml x 2.
See you around

[MickeyKnox]

I'm testing my bodys acceptance of the new meathod.
.33ml is a smaller dose per site. Less chance of lumps, irritation and so forth. Subq with oil is different then subq with water. Next time I might try .5ml x 2.
See you around

thanks again.

[Brazensol]

When I started pinning I was doing it in the navel area but it didn't agree with me! I started using the "love handles" and have much better success with those. I just alternate injections from side to side and all is well!

[Phased]

I upped my dose to .5ml of prop per pin and .5ml of enth. Prop still stings even subq, enth does not.

[TraceMYD]

For starters, try the 31g if you're not using that yet.

I stick with pinning around the naval area; probably within 2" of the naval.

One trick ... After wiping the area with alcohol, take the pin and slightly prod on an area. You can feel the nerve ending pretty quick. If so, prod another space close thereof til you don't feel the sharp pain. I find more stability of the pin being inserted in the skin by holding it close to the bottom at the base, near the needle, then proceed to inject at a slow pace. I usually take at least 1 minute to complete the injection.

I virtually don't have any pain unless it hits a nerve ending. Try the prodding technique a few times. Just make sure to keep thoroughly cleaned with the alcohol wipe.

Thanks for the prodding tip Vettester, it really does work on finding the area that is not as sensitive.

Question: Regarding SubQ Test shots.
The label on my syringes that i use for my hcg shots say:
1ml 25g 1 (.5mmx25mm) "Slip tips"

Do you think that syringe and needle size would also work for
a SubQ Test shots as well?


THanks

Thanks

[Phased]

How is everyone doing with this. I am enjoying it, has anyone done any labs before and after SQ and after dropping their AI on HRT to compare?
Best

[MuscleInk]

How is everyone doing with this. I am enjoying it, has anyone done any labs before and after SQ and after dropping their AI on HRT to compare?
Best

I'm interested in this too. I'd love to go SQ.

[kelkel]

I believe Bass has done just that. He'll chime in...

[Phased]

I believe Bass has done just that. He'll chime in...

Time to catch me a Bass

Best

[Phased]

Bump for bass

[bass]

Time to catch me a Bass

Best

LOL i just took the bait!

Yes i posted BW when i was doing IM weekly, then IM twice a week, then SQ eod, then SQ e3d and staid there. You can go to my profile and search my started threads and you'll find them.

To put everything in a nutshell SQ e3d is my best protocol. Less test and less AI while maintaining high test level and lower e2. Check out my latest updated thrrad.

[Phased]

On my phone, help a brother out?
Thank you
Best

[Phased]

How you guys doing with lumps in the fat, seems they don't go away as easy even pinning subq, even with rubbing. Still bruising as well at the site.
Best

[Viking13]

How you guys doing with lumps in the fat, seems they don't go away as easy even pinning subq, even with rubbing. Still bruising as well at the site.
Best

I'm not having an issue at all with with lumps/bruising at all. I started using pediatric 25g needles that are 100% perfect for sub q injections. I recommend them highly if anyone has access to them.

[Phased]

I'm not having an issue at all with with lumps/bruising at all. I started using pediatric 25g needles that are 100% perfect for sub q injections. I recommend them highly if anyone has access to them.

Thanks Viking
Im new to to the subq test injections. I'm at 25g as well. I'm thinking about switching to 31g. Ill let you know on Monday how that goes. Where are you pinning and what sites you rotating? I'm thinking of doing subq in the glutes. Have not tried that yet but sounds like a winner.

Best

[bass]

I still get them now and then, right now I have two on my right thigh, time to hit the gluts just to switch it up. To be honest I've noticed when I get lumps and soreness is when i massage the area! I won't massage the next one and see what happens.

[Phased]

I still get them now and then, right now I have two on my right thigh, time to hit the gluts just to switch it up. To be honest I've noticed when I get lumps and soreness is when i massage the area! I won't massage the next one and see what happens.

Ok ill try not massaging it. Thank you man.
Best

[Viking13]

Thanks Viking
Im new to to the subq test injections. I'm at 25g as well. I'm thinking about switching to 31g. Ill let you know on Monday how that goes. Where are you pinning and what sites you rotating? I'm thinking of doing subq in the glutes. Have not tried that yet but sounds like a winner.

Best

I like the 25g due to the thickness of the test cyp. It takes a little to push it through in terms of pressure applied and time. I pin about 2 inches from either side of my belly button and my quads. I pin right side belly first. Next shot is left side belly. The right quad, and last rotation spot is left quad before beginning again with right side belly. So each side gets a two week reprieve between shots. I also pin 100mg at a time every 3.5 days for a total of 200mg total per week.

I have avoided lumps the majority of the time by lightly massaging after my shot with my alcohol swab for 30 sec. Oh and I usually take about 30-45 seconds for the injection.

[jamotech]

On the subject of subq injections, id like to remind everyone to aspirate before injecting. Some feel its not necessary with subq injections. About a month ago I aspirated before injecting in my abdomen and hit a vein. The HCG solution in the syringe turned red immediately, it was not a small amount of blood.

[bass]

On the subject of subq injections, id like to remind everyone to aspirate before injecting. Some feel its not necessary with subq injections. About a month ago I aspirated before injecting in my abdomen and hit a vein. The HCG solution in the syringe turned red immediately, it was not a small amount of blood.

Jamo, it doesn't take allot to turn you solution red, 1/2 a drop will do it. There are hardly any veins big enough to worry about in the fat. It's up to you though, but really not necessary.

[MickeyKnox]

what did you do when you experienced harness at injection site and it was time to inject again? iow, by the time i came around to inject again, the site was still hard/swollen? do you simply keep picking new sites to inject and hope they subside?

close friend (for real, like i need to explain that..lol) is currently testing 2" from naval and using .5mg test prop eod 29gauge 1/2" slin.

[kelkel]

Explain the hardness Mickey?

[MickeyKnox]

hi Kel,

i felt it. it's firm and about the size of an inch, inch and a half around. no redness, no pain or discomfort. he injected into the other side of navel this eve. i recommend he use a different area (obliques) next time to see if the reaction would be the same.

[J DIESEL3]

I also just started 2 per week sub q injections about 3 weeks ago.

I have been using a 5/16 31 g slin pin and not getting any bumps.I did get some soreness when touching the injection area the next day on a couple of the shots.

I also believe that when you massage the area for more than a couple seconds it can make it a little sore...

Like some of the guys here I rotate injection sites on the abdominal area and upper quad.

[TraceMYD]

It would be really cool if someone would or could make some video tutorials of subq test shots at different injection sites.

[jamotech]

Jamo, it doesn't take allot to turn you solution red, 1/2 a drop will do it. There are hardly any veins big enough to worry about in the fat. It's up to you though, but really not necessary.

Sounds good Bass thanks!

[RaginCajun]

LOL i just took the bait!

Yes i posted BW when i was doing IM weekly, then IM twice a week, then SQ eod, then SQ e3d and staid there. You can go to my profile and search my started threads and you'll find them.

To put everything in a nutshell SQ e3d is my best protocol. Less test and less AI while maintaining high test level and lower e2. Check out my latest updated thrrad.

that's interesting!