hCG from Pharmacies

[junk2222yard]

Hello,
I am 2 months into TRT. Started with twice weekly testosterone enanthate injections. E2 shot up, so doc agreed to an Rx for an AI. So I am taking a very small dose of Femara EOD. Now, based on my own recommendation (and a printed copy of "hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know" from here!), he will give me an Rx for hCG. But here is the thing:

Can I just buy hCG "ready-to-go" from a pharmacy, just like I do the Test E.?

I want to avoid "reconstituting" and "bacteriostatic water" if possible? I am self injecting, and I have managed to wrap my head around that. I get my Test E. from a pharmacy, it comes in a bottle, I use needles one time -- no muss, no fuss. The instructions for reconstituting hCG are beyond my comfort level at the moment. So does it exist in a pharmacy already prepared for injection? Or do you have to "roll your own" so-to-speak?

Thanks,
Junk2222

[HRTstudent]

There are prepared versions available. I do not know if you have access to them. They might be (probably) pricier.

However, this is not a problem. Since you go to a pharmacy in person, simply ask the pharmacist to do it for you. I cannot think of any reason why they would say no. If they say no, say, oh ok I don't want the Rx then. Then just go to the next pharmacy down the block who will.

[junk2222yard]

However, this is not a problem. Since you go to a pharmacy in person, simply ask the pharmacist to do it for you. I cannot think of any reason why they would say no.

You mean I can ask the pharmacy to do the reconstitution? Besides price, is there any advantage to the reconstitution angle? (Because I am a legit hypogonadism case, my doc thinks my insurance will cover my hCG , so price isn't a concern.)

By the way, I am in Canada. But I figure if the stuff exists premade in the U.S., it will in Canada, too.

[steroid.com 1]

First let me say I am pleased beyond measure that Sticky educated your Doctor and him prescribing for you...you made my night man

Ok, now down to it; why don't you want to reconstitute HCG ?

It's a simple as pulling back to a mark on a syringe with Bac water and slowly injecting it into the freeze dried HCG.

It's so simple even a cave man could do it...well maybe

My worry is that a pharmacist won't know the exact measurements for reconstituting and they may not want to do it.

Seriously, it's so easy it's not even funny.

Go to youtube and do a search for how to mix HCG (most are for diet) but you will see how easy it really is.

[reporich]

I get mine from a compounding pharmacy and it is ready to go with the Bac. water already in it.

[steroid.com 1]

I get mine from a compounding pharmacy and it is ready to go with the Bac. water already in it.

My only worry with this is potency.

Once reconstituted HCG needs to be refrigerated and the clock starts on potency degradation.

Just too easy to reconstitue as needed IMO.

[jasondd1]

I just reconstituted my first batch of 5,000 iu this evening. 2ml of bac water injected into the vial and done. It took less than 5 minutes. I was nervous about doing it as well but it was a no brainer easy.

[bass]

Most pharmacies sells it already mixed, so it should be easy to find, and it should be good to go.

[steroid.com 1]

I just reconstituted my first batch of 5,000 iu this evening. 2ml of bac water injected into the vial and done. It took less than 5 minutes. I was nervous about doing it as well but it was a no brainer easy.

Exactly.

I could train my 7 year old son in less then 3 minutes to do it correctly.

[junk2222yard]

Ok, now down to it; why don't you want to reconstitute HCG ?

It's a simple as pulling back to a mark on a syringe with Bac water and slowly injecting it into the freeze dried HCG.

Just above my comfort level at the moment. I am sure I will get there. But since I don't have to pay for this stuff, it is much more convenient to get pre-made if available.

Seems to me that reconstituting it myself opens up a number of variables that simply do not exist with a premade solution. (I am pretty sure a pharmacist here will not do it for me... they are all very busy, and customer care is not a concern where I live in Canada. Keep in mind the healthcare is socialized here.) The premade form is probably 99.9999999% guaranteed to be mixed properly. Stuff I am putting together myself -- a total novice still trying to get comfortable jabbing himself -- is not as surefire.

[junk2222yard]

Thanks for all the responses! And from some very informed members, too. I really appreciate it, guys!

[TMan96]

I am still sort of confused by my HGC prescription. I am convinced now after reading more information on the subject I shouldn’t be cycling it once every 3 months, but on it all the time. My script covers monthly usage but I have trouble finding it at the size the prescription is written for. The others on here don’t seem to have any trouble getting it, but the only place I can find it with my prescription is a local compounding pharmacy where they pre mix it and charge me $65 for a month’s worth.
My Script is for 250 iu x 2 a week which works out to 2000iu a month.

Do national pharmacies carry HGC? In what sizes? Where do you guys get yours filled and it what sizes? What are you paying?

[steroid.com 1]

I get mine from a compounding pharmacy; cheaper.

5000 units about $65 which is about a months worth.

Just get it from the compounding pharmacy premixed and you're good to go!

There is no cycling HCG ...the body thrives on regularity so stick with it.

[junk2222yard]

Well today the doctor I see mixed the hcG right in front of me, and it just reinforced me feeling skeptical about the whole operation and my ability to do it myself.

First of all, the doctor used a large needle to draw in the bacteriostatic water. Before drawing it in, he drew back about 6ml of air. Is it necessary to inject air into the water before you draw it up?

Then he drew up 10ml of water -- not 4 like it says in the Sticky. Then he injected all 10 into the vial with the freeze dried hCG powder. Near the end of this injection, there was a fizz sound and some of the solution came out of the hCG vial. It was only a couple drops, but it made me think "this is not right".

Finally, he told me to use an insulin needle to draw up 25 units at a time, for 250 iu dosing M, W and F. Again, in the Sticky it says to inject 10 units. Now, I understand we added more water than it says to in the Sticky, but I still don't think this adds up? And why would we add so much water? I would like to inject as little solution as possible!

Tomorrow morning is my first injection, and I don't feel great about it. But I am torn between trusting my doctor (who does seem reasonably informed about this stuff) and treating the documents on this site as the gospel? (I mean, the documents are terrific, but maybe when it comes to particulars like needle sizes, amount of bacteriostatic water to use, etc., I need to cut my doc some slack?)

[steroid.com 1]

^^^^Take a breath and relax; driving your car is more complex than you are making this my friend

OK...can you do that?

You outlined each step perfectly so you can do this.

Now, what was the size of the vial that he added in 10ml of Bac Water?

I've never heard of adding in that much Bac water to be honest with you but there's always a first.

What size insulin syringes are you using 1cc or 1/2cc?

Here's what you should have done; you went into his office today armed with knowledge but you didn't question him like you are doing here now???

The information found on this site can also be found word-for-word practically on the sites of other TRT Docs who publish their HCG reconstitution instructions...trust me, it's correct here.

If you need peace of mind; call you Doc's office tomorrow and tell them your concerns (write them down so you can ask clearly and not forget) and see what they say.

Oh yea, did I mention to relax

Peace.

gd

[Vettester]

Hope the reconstituted HCG wasn't too far away from a fridge.

[jasondd1]

I went from the pharmacist premixed solution of 100iu being 40 units to reconstituting it myself using 2 ml bac water and 5,000 iu powder to be 4 units(100iu each shot). For whatever reason pharmacist like to use more water which makes it difficult if you want to shoot several days worth and do it 2-3 times week instead of every day. Also my braniac pharmacist used sterile water not bac water and it burned like crazy going in. Since switching to doing it myself no pain at all. Having a pharmacist mix it for you isn't always the safest and best practice. Besides my pharmacist charged me $160 for 1 months worth. That is 6 times what i can order it online and do myself.

[MyteeJ]

Thanks for all the responses! And from some very informed members, too. I really appreciate it, guys!

I had the same confusion/apprehension/discomfort as you do when I started reconstituting my HCG and other supplements.

It is really simple as the vets have stated on here and IMHO after mixing the first one or two you'll be fine.

You will get to a point where it's too inconvenient to take the extra step with your protocol so mixing yourself will become more practical.

[junk2222yard]

^^^^Take a breath and relax; driving your car is more complex than you are making this my friend

OK...can you do that?

You outlined each step perfectly so you can do this....

Ok, thanks! I have calmed down, and in fact gave myself the injection earlier today. No need to call the doc. The syringes I use are BD Ultra-Fine (29g) Insulin Syringes - 1 cc. I injected 25 units, which I do believe is .250 iu of hCG , based on the "generous" amount of water my doc added.

Next time I will reconstitute it myself. I hadn't realized that it came in a kit with the two vials (one with water, one with powder) ready-to-go. Stuff I have wached on Youtube had strange assortments of things: people with 3 vials of different sizes, giant bottles of Bac Water, people kind of mix-n-matching. Some of it looked... sketchy. (Example: youtube.com/watch?v=R4sQwZiSiXk)

I do look forward to mixing the next batch myself (and with much less water so I inject less!) and I don't mind these injection in my belly fat either. There is nothing to them.

Thanks for you support! I know I seem like a nervous novice. And I readily admit I am one. But I look forward to improving day-by-day.

[jasondd1]

From the numbers you gave I assume he constituted 10,000 iu's for you?

[junk2222yard]

From the numbers you gave I assume he constituted 10,000 iu's for you?

I believe so. I am looking at the package and it says "10,000 USP Units", so I am assuming a "USP Unit" is an "iu".

[junk2222yard]

I can't effin believe this. I got out the package to write the message above, and forgot to put it back in the fridge! It was out all night (7 or 8 hours).

I did a google search that indicates that it should be ok still, but you never know. I could be injecting usless hCG for the next 30 days.

[steroid.com 1]

I can't effin believe this. I got out the package to write the message above, and forgot to put it back in the fridge! It was out all night (7 or 8 hours).

I did a google search that indicates that it should be ok still, but you never know. I could be injecting usless hCG for the next 30 days.

It's fine, just put it back in the fridge and use it; we've all done that from time to time around here...it will still be good.