Hcg

[Gfeazell]

I am taking 1000iu a week of HCG in a single shot. what it have better benefit to break it up into 2 500's instead?

[MickeyKnox]

yes you would. it would stabilize your bloods. may i ask why your taking 1000iu/wk? just curious..

[Gfeazell]

This was prescribed to me at this dose so i've been following the recommendation... What would be considered normal?

[kelkel]

Normal is relative. For TRT probably 250 IU two or three times a week. Take a look at the sticky thread on HCG at the top of this forum!

[Gfeazell]

Normal is relative. For TRT probably 250 IU two or three times a week. Take a look at the sticky thread on HCG at the top of this forum!

Good info.. So if I just translated that correctly.. I would be better taking an hCG shot on Wednesday and anther on Thursday before my testosterone shot on Friday. Looks as if I could even cut the dose in half..

[MickeyKnox]

Two days before test pin is the newer(ish) standard protocol re: Dr. Crisler. I do this as well.

[kelkel]

^^Yes it is. For those that do their test injections twice per week the norm seems to be a simple M-W-F protocol. KISS method!

Nice new avi Mick!

kel

[MickeyKnox]

Thanks Kel!

[steroid.com 1]

I am taking 1000iu a week of HCG in a single shot. what it have better benefit to break it up into 2 500's instead?

Who prescribed this to you and what was the reason?

If you read the sticky you know a 1000 iu's in one injection is way too much and can not only desensitize the receptors on the leydig cells but also cause a spike in intra testicular E2.

You have only so many receptors that can handle what you are injecting and a 1000 is just too much...unless of course you injecting this for fertility reasons then that's a different discussion.

[Gfeazell]

Who prescribed this to you and what was the reason?

If you read the sticky you know a 1000 iu's in one injection is way too much and can not only desensitize the receptors on the leydig cells but also cause a spike in intra testicular E2.

You have only so many receptors that can handle what you are injecting and a 1000 is just too much...unless of course you injecting this for fertility reasons then that's a different discussion.

My HRT doctor... And I guarantee fertility isn't a consideration. So I am definitely going to back it down next week to 2 separate injections.. iTunes's my only question is if I should do 250 or 500 for each injection.

[Gfeazell]

Sorry. "I guess" not " iTunes"... Stupid spellcheck.

[gbrice75]

FYI, i'm currently injecting 300iu 3x weekly - M, W, and F. Hope this helps.

[MickeyKnox]

My HRT doctor... And I guarantee fertility isn't a consideration. So I am definitely going to back it down next week to 2 separate injections.. iTunes's my only question is if I should do 250 or 500 for each injection.

Not to step on anyone's toes..

But standard protocol dictates 125 - 250iu 2/wk. Occasionally this dosing schedule will increase in dosage and frequency, but not to 1000iu. Im pretty sure GD would concur.

[bass]

1000iu each week seems to me my magic number, everyone is different and depends on how potent is your hCG . its always better to start low, keep an eye on your nut-o-meter, if you're doing well with low dose than continue, if not then increase as need it.

[gbrice75]

1000iu each week seems to me my magic number, everyone is different and depends on how potent is your hCG . its always better to start low, keep an eye on your nut-o-meter, if you're doing well with low dose than continue, if not then increase as need it.

This is my problem. How do you accomplish this? I asked in another thread (maybe my own) if there were any 'markers' or indicators as to HCG 'working' or not, other than lack of obvious nut shrinkage (which isn't a guarantee to begin with on HRT/AAS). So, how would you 'keep an eye' on this? It's a top concern for me as you all probably know by now.

[MickeyKnox]

As Bass said, the 'nut-o-meter" doesn't lie.

[bass]

This is my problem. How do you accomplish this? I asked in another thread (maybe my own) if there were any 'markers' or indicators as to HCG 'working' or not, other than lack of obvious nut shrinkage (which isn't a guarantee to begin with on HRT/AAS). So, how would you 'keep an eye' on this? It's a top concern for me as you all probably know by now.

check them on a daily basis so you can get familiar with the size, also if healthy they should feel medium hard and full not mushy and soft. once in a while they'll get soft and that's normal, but if they stay soft for a week or so that's an indicator that hCG is not doing what it supposed to do. its really hard to diagnose, sometimes they don't respond due to too much hCG, that's why some come off hCG completely for a month or two then start again. it is best to start on low dose and see how they respond, if not then increase.

[steroid.com 1]

I think most of this is covered in the sticky but HCG is a peptide that is best taken in smaller doses more frequently.

I used to go 250 iu EOD but simplified the protocol to 250 iu Mon, Tues and Fri and things are just fine.

The purposes for using HCG on a TRT protocol are numerous and beyond just keeping the testicles alive.

Our testes are the largest producers of Pregnenolone and DHEA and when we are in a state of HPTA suppression these two critical hormones are seriously compromised and there are consequences to that. It is believed that HCG activates the P450 side chain cleavage which is responsible for converting Cholesterol into Pregnenolone and into DHEA...we need both and in optimal amounts!

A fertility test would be the only real way to test the effectiveness of HCG but who wants to go through that?

Gage by how you feel most importantly and of course the size of your testicles.

[gbrice75]

check them on a daily basis so you can get familiar with the size, also if healthy they should feel medium hard and full not mushy and soft. once in a while they'll get soft and that's normal, but if they stay soft for a week or so that's an indicator that hCG is not doing what it supposed to do. its really hard to diagnose, sometimes they don't respond due to too much hCG, that's why some come off hCG completely for a month or two then start again. it is best to start on low dose and see how they respond, if not then increase.

Thanks, I do check them daily and I can SWEAR they're shrinking... but i'm pretty sure it's in my head... GD can tell you about my paranoia lol. The problem is I never paid attention before starting TRT, so I have nothing committed to memory to gauge against.

[bass]

Thanks, I do check them daily and I can SWEAR they're shrinking... but i'm pretty sure it's in my head... GD can tell you about my paranoia lol. The problem is I never paid attention before starting TRT, so I have nothing committed to memory to gauge against.

LOL, it is in your head bro. It's way too soon for you to shrink, you just started TRT, give it 3 months or so.

GD, said it best, everything you need to know is in the sticky.

[steroid.com 1]

For some men on TRT who take HCG will still see some shrinkage but it's nothing to worry about as it happens.

Make sure your HCG is pharmacy grade and increase dosage amounts if you feel as though the shrinkage is excessive.

Usually, 750 to 1000 iu's a week is enough for most men from my experience.