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    Big Names in Hormone Replacement Therapy

    I am trying to educate myself about the stars of the HRT world, and their differences. Also, I am interested in where they are located. Although I live in Canada, it turns out I am not *that* far from Crisler. I am new to the game, but here are four names I keep seeing, with there locations:

    Mark L Gordon - Encino, California
    John Crisler - Lansing, Michigan
    Eugene Shippen - Reading, Pennsylvania
    Michael Scally - Houston, Texas

    Can anyone add to this list?

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    It's either that Scally is not a medical doctor, or he lost his license. Either way, I don't think he contributed anything to the field. I haven't come across anything he contributed or contributes at least. He is not allowed to treat patients I believe.

    Dr Mariano out of California is another good HRT doc. He is a psychiatrist by training but treats hormones extensively.

    Dr Dach out of South Florida is another notable figure. He has a good blog/site as well.

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    Dr Mark L Gordon (Los Angeles, California) - http://www.millenniumhealthcenters.com/
    Dr Ron Rothenberg (Encinitas, California) - http://www.ehealthspan.com
    Dr Harvey Bartnof (San Francisco, California) - http://www.drbartnof.com/
    Dr Jeffrey Dach (Davie, Florida) - http://www.drdach.com
    Dr Eugene Shippen (Reading, Pennysylvania) - (no website)
    Dr Sergey Dzugan (Deerfield Beach, Florida) - http://www.dzugan.com
    Dr. Phillip Lee Miller (Los gatos, California) - http://www.antiaging.com/
    Dr Romeo Mariano (Monterey, California) - http://definitivemind.com
    Dr. Richard Gaines (Ft. Lauderdale, Florida) - http://healthgains.com/

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    Oh wow, that is great. Thanks a lot, guys!

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    You guys know of Dr. Pascal Dauphin? Endo that specializes in MHRT and supposedly one of the top researchers in Andrology?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    It's either that Scally is not a medical doctor, or he lost his license. Either way, I don't think he contributed anything to the field. I haven't come across anything he contributed or contributes at least. He is not allowed to treat patients I believe.
    Dr Mariano out of California is another good HRT doc. He is a psychiatrist by training but treats hormones extensively.
    LMAO The guy is a genius(and a MD). How would you even hear about him if he hasn't accomplished anything?

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    California and Florida...

    I think I see a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    LMAO The guy is a genius(and a MD). How would you even hear about him if he hasn't accomplished anything?
    I said I didn't ever hear of him from anything authoritative. I've seen his name mentioned mostly in mud-slinging stuff that I don't really bother with.

    I'd be more than willing to read his research or theories about HRT though if you wanted to make a thread about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    California and Florida...

    I think I see a trend.
    Texas is booming too, as Brohim stated!

    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    I said I didn't ever hear of him from anything authoritative. I've seen his name mentioned mostly in mud-slinging stuff that I don't really bother with.

    I'd be more than willing to read his research or theories about HRT though if you wanted to make a thread about it.
    A sub-forum would be more appropriate I was planning on making a thread or two but honestly I haven't had the time or energy. I will though, in due time.

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    Abraham Morgentaler (Harvard Medical School) -- great book, widely quoted.

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    Dr. Thomas O'Connor of CT - TRT, VIP Medicine

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennTarheel
    You guys know of Dr. Pascal Dauphin? Endo that specializes in MHRT and supposedly one of the top researchers in Andrology?
    Yes, but I did not find him to be all that special at all. Very contradictory and too conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking13

    Yes, but I did not find him to be all that special at all. Very contradictory and too conservative.
    Hey Viking, how so? I've never met him but please do give me your thoughts so I don't waste my time seeing him. PM me if you'd like

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    You can add LowTestosterone.com to that list soon!!

    Scally was an absolute JERK and although we had a business relationship at one point, he treated me like a criminal. He is not licensed and I have not seen him offer much of anything
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    How often do we hear about Scally being like that...?

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    All the pie throwing in the world won't change that he is incredibly intelligent. I respect that, although I may not agree with a lot of people here. I will still defend people whom I consider to be intelligent even if I do not like them! Call him a JERK all you want. His credentials and education overshadows 100% of the guys here.

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    All I said is that it's a repeated observation about him that I've seen places other then here...

    It seems to be a pattern...tells me something.

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    It's a sad thing that you feel that way. Now, lets say if a certain medical doctor of another forum whose name is in this thread got accused of domestic violence. Isn't it a shame that his name is tainted and his work may be discredited for something unrelated to his work?

    Brownie points if you understood the bold of names joke. As a certain doctor did so in a weird fashion on his forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    It's a sad thing that you feel that way. Now, lets say if a certain medical doctor of another forum whose name is in this thread got accused of domestic violence. Isn't it a shame that his name is tainted and his work may be discredited for something unrelated to his work?

    Brownie points if you understood the bold of names joke. As a certain doctor did so in a weird fashion on his forum.
    I don't get it, but I want to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    It's a sad thing that you feel that way. Now, lets say if a certain medical doctor of another forum whose name is in this thread got accused of domestic violence. Isn't it a shame that his name is tainted and his work may be discredited for something unrelated to his work?

    Brownie points if you understood the bold of names joke. As a certain doctor did so in a weird fashion on his forum.
    Hey man, that Doc in question was not "accused" he was "convicted" of a felony...his name is tainted both professionally and personally.

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    Hey man, the question remains; do you believe that personal conduct reflects professional proficiency?

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    I'll chime in. That question is a double edged sword. Yes, it can. Reason is integrity. Certain levels of skills and professional certifications come with high expectations and standards of conduct. Both on the job and off. Sometimes things cannot be seperated as much as we would like them to. Current example: General David Petraeus.

    Interesting philosophical discussion though.

    Just my .02.

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    Check top 10 president lists and you will see Bill Clinton's name on many of them. I think that proves my case. We can make poor choices in our personal life, but still be a damn good professional.

    It is unknown to me if Scally has made poor choices in how he interacts with people and is known as being a JERK. I do know that professionally he is VERY good. This cannot be taken away from him.

    The same goes for the doctor whose name must not be uttered as gdevine clearly hates the guy He has contributed to the field although he made himself look like an idiot on his forum and in his actions.

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    I don't "hate" anybody; but I think Kel makes a good case as do you Sworder with your point as well...all cases need to be judged on thier own merits.

    I don't hate Crisler; I don't know him.

    I do know people that do know him and thier views and opinions of him are not generally very positive to be honest.

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    With the right marketing... You can make just about ANY mediocre "professional" an INDUSTRY LEADER. Just because people SAY you are an industry leader and then many many others parrot that statement... does NOT make it true. It just means that within a certain circle that person has made a name for his/herself and 9 times out of 10, it has NOTHING to do with his/her actual accomplishments or skill. It has to do with perception.

    An egotistical, cocky, abusive, jerk for example (in MY opinion only) has a long way to go to be considered a "LEADER" in anything positive.

    Everyone has the right to agree or disagree, but I would think that most of you would have to agree with at least some of that?

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    Yes, definitely I can agree that "hype" is a large part of the game, as it is with any product, service or person.

    I try to stay away from personal bias, but if I am asked for my opinion I will have it reflect the query.

    For example: "Do you like the taste of apples?" "Yes, they are delicious BUT the color of them is awful" The BUT displaying added and unsought information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    Check top 10 president lists and you will see Bill Clinton's name on many of them. I think that proves my case. We can make poor choices in our personal life, but still be a damn good professional.

    It is unknown to me if Scally has made poor choices in how he interacts with people and is known as being a JERK. I do know that professionally he is VERY good. This cannot be taken away from him.

    The same goes for the doctor whose name must not be uttered as gdevine clearly hates the guy He has contributed to the field although he made himself look like an idiot on his forum and in his actions.
    i thought gdevine liked crisler...

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    With the right marketing... You can make just about ANY mediocre "professional" an INDUSTRY LEADER. Just because people SAY you are an industry leader and then many many others parrot that statement... does NOT make it true. It just means that within a certain circle that person has made a name for his/herself and 9 times out of 10, it has NOTHING to do with his/her actual accomplishments or skill. It has to do with perception.

    An egotistical, cocky, abusive, jerk for example (in MY opinion only) has a long way to go to be considered a "LEADER" in anything positive.

    Everyone has the right to agree or disagree, but I would think that most of you would have to agree with at least some of that?
    aint this the damn truth.i cant count how many times ive been told by people that endocrinologist x is an incredible dr or he is one of the best, only to have me depressed and furious after seeing how shitty he really was.

    social circles..period.

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    Dr. Rothenberg is where I go. He ain't cheap and a bit self serving, but he definitely is one of the leaders in the field and has trained alot of the other top HRT Doc's out there. He actually has written a book for aspiring HRT Docs.

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    Who's top trt doc in Houston??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon6 View Post
    Who's top trt doc in Houston??
    I imagine Mike would know some... that's where lowT.com is based out of I believe.
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    dr romeo mariano is supposed to be the best dr on earth...if i could choose any dr id choose him....but i live by shippen..just hope shippen is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    dr romeo mariano is supposed to be the best dr on earth...if i could choose any dr id choose him....but i live by shippen..just hope shippen is good.
    Is romeo in Houston? I think I've read some stuff on shippen think he's good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon6 View Post
    Is romeo in Houston? I think I've read some stuff on shippen think he's good
    nah california...but he is supposed to be the best dr on this planet...he's apsychiatrist and a neuroendocrinologist...and knows pretty much everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    nah california...but he is supposed to be the best dr on this planet...he's apsychiatrist and a neuroendocrinologist...and knows pretty much everything.
    Why don't I live in Cali lol
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    Trust me, you will be running back to Texas within 5 minutes of being in Commifornia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EverettCD View Post
    Trust me, you will be running back to Texas within 5 minutes of being in Commifornia.
    Oh I was completely joking nothing against California. I love Texas wouldn't want to live any where else.

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