Question About Aspirate?

[VenicePump]

Just to make sure, to aspirate , you push the needle ALL THE WAY then pull the need back just a bit to make sure no blood goes into the needle correct? Then if not, inject? Chances are you are definitely in muscle?

[austinite]

It doesn't mean you're in the muscle. Just means you're not in a vein. And yes, you draw back, if you're in a vein blood would come gushing through the barrel.

[MickeyKnox]

Just to make sure, to aspirate , you push the needle ALL THE WAY then pull the need back just a bit to make sure no blood goes into the needle correct? Then if not, inject? Chances are you are definitely in muscle?

This may not be necessary depending on the length of needle and BF%. But the rest is correct.


Injection Techniques and Questions

Injection technique

[VenicePump]

It doesn't mean you're in the muscle. Just means you're not in a vein. And yes, you draw back, if you're in a vein blood would come gushing through the barrel.

This may not be necessary depending on the length of needle and BF%. But the rest is correct.


Injection Techniques and Questions

Injection technique

I guess it would be kind of hard to miss the muscle. I like my deltoids though because I can flex them and easily hit them. My glutes need some work or something. I still have low body though (my abs show) if that gives you an idea. So I could only imagine it would be hard to miss a muscle.

[austinite]

I guess it would be kind of hard to miss the muscle. I like my deltoids though because I can flex them and easily hit them. My glutes need some work or something. I still have low body though (my abs show) if that gives you an idea. So I could only imagine it would be hard to miss a muscle.

You should not flex when injecting. keep the muscle relaxed.

[ZenFitness]

Just to make sure, to aspirate, you push the needle ALL THE WAY then pull the need back just a bit to make sure no blood goes into the needle correct?

Wait - I thought you push the NEEDLE all the way in then pull the PLUNGER back a bit to ensure blood does not rush into the syringe - is this not accurate?

[VenicePump]

You should not flex when injecting. keep the muscle relaxed.

That's odd you say that because my doctor showed me how to do it. He has been injecting for 30+ years. The day I did it in his office I flex to get the muscle out then I said like this he said yes, push it all the way in.

Why do you say not to flex?

[VenicePump]

Wait - I thought you push the NEEDLE all the way in then pull the PLUNGER back a bit to ensure blood does not rush into the syringe - is this not accurate?

I don't generally pull plunger back, I will now though. I do push all the way in.

[MickeyKnox]

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[MickeyKnox]

I don't generally pull plunger back, I will now though. I do push all the way in.

Really? I thought you simply mistyped that when you said "needle" Yeah man, make sure you draw back a bit on the plunger, otherwise you wont really know if you are in a vein.

[kelkel]

So your doctor has been making his patients unnecessarily sore for 30 years. Nice.

[austinite]

That's odd you say that because my doctor showed me how to do it. He has been injecting for 30+ years. The day I did it in his office I flex to get the muscle out then I said like this he said yes, push it all the way in.

Why do you say not to flex?

Try it relaxed and you'll notice less or non-existent post discomfort. Silly doc

[ZenFitness]

You don't need to flex, just grab around your thigh and squeeze the muscle. Once the needle is in let go. That's what I do.

[JCFobsession]

Man I self im glute upper quadrant....

I'm not jabbing right and moving to much cause I'm sore for days after...

[austinite]

You don't need to flex, just grab around your thigh and squeeze the muscle. Once the needle is in let go. That's what I do.

Shouldn't do that either. Just inject. No need to pinch.

[FONZY007]

Shouldn't do that either. Just inject. No need to pinch.

Yea I don't pinch and not even sore the next day, I lube the needle with drop of oil though. Seems to help and also I do it right after I get out of the shower..

If I flex it hurts like a bítch afterwards

[crashfirepm53]

Wait - I thought you push the NEEDLE all the way in then pull the PLUNGER back a bit to ensure blood does not rush into the syringe - is this not accurate?

Yes pull the plunger back not the needle. Retracting the needle will do nothing to help determine if your in a vein.

If you went thru a vein(more likely) you could get some blood when you pull back the plunger.

[crashfirepm53]

If you do inject into the vein instead of IM, whats gonna happen?? Injecting a medication IM that the dose is for IV will yield lower and time delayed results. Injecting an medication IV that is dosed for IM will yield a quicker and more potent dose. Example of Opiates.

So IV injecting a roid will do what?

[ZenFitness]

If you do inject into the vein instead of IM, whats gonna happen?? Injecting a medication IM that the dose is for IV will yield lower and time delayed results. Injecting an medication IV that is dosed for IM will yield a quicker and more potent dose. Example of Opiates.

So IV injecting a roid will do what?

At best severe nausea, at worst death

[crazy mike]

It has always been the rule relax the muscle. Flexing make it harder to get the fluid of any kind to disperse into the tissue/muscle fiber. Imagine a sponge and you squeeze it tight and think of trying to get a needle in and the fluid (oil / water) to get in. Hello
If you want to aspirate fine. In the old days and I have used plenty back then, the syringes were glass and the plunger was made to to fit it's own cylinder (syringe w/ serial #) and it would slide in and out by itself. So when you hit a vein it would register, take blood into it by your own blood pressure. (pretty cool fro IV). A little back round ! Now days the system using a tightly held rubber plunger you don't have the blood pressure to register (back it up with blood) so you MUST pull back on it. If you have touched a capillary you will not keep drawing blood. If you hit a vein ( and can stay in it ???) the syringe will keep sucking all the blood and Hypothetically fill the syringe and more. So for those who don't understand the entire process, I have laid out the technical aspects of what you are doing. The oil base does not mix with the blood in your vein , oops ...crazy mike

[crazy mike]

At best severe nausea, at worst death

Yes this is correct. As well as getting dizzy and probably hit the floor, if you got a significant amount in. Also oil does not mix with the blood in the vein. oops ...crazy mike

You will not get a fast or slow reaction by hitting it into though vein (blood stream) it's not like an opiate. You will not get off, you will end up off your feet, trust me. I don't think you want to question that.......cm

[Moparman]

I don't aspirate . I do glutes. Idk. My doc says its really not necessary. The likelyhood of hitting a vein is really low. When u get a flu shot or any other vaccination they don't aspirate. No just stick and plunge.

[crazy mike]

I don't aspirate. I do glutes. Idk. My doc says its really not necessary. The likely old of hitting a vein is really low. When u get a flu shot or any other vaccination they don't aspirate. No just stick and plunge.

Every day we have a new thread on this. People are so scared. You should be cautious but like you said and I've said. The nurse doesn't and the doc, etc..... ...crazy mike

[Bonaparte]

If you do inject into the vein instead of IM, whats gonna happen?? Injecting a medication IM that the dose is for IV will yield lower and time delayed results. Injecting an medication IV that is dosed for IM will yield a quicker and more potent dose. Example of Opiates.

So IV injecting a roid will do what?

The issue is that they're oil-based. Oil and blood don't mix. See the problem?

[kelkel]

I don't aspirate. I do glutes. Idk. My doc says its really not necessary. The likelyhood of hitting a vein is really low. When u get a flu shot or any other vaccination they don't aspirate. No just stick and plunge.

I've hit a vein in my glutes before. Pulled back to aspirate and instant blood. Half filled the syringe that quick. Always, always aspirate. Why risk it and really how much time does it take.

[JCFobsession]

I did glute Injction and i passed through a vein once. After injecting all fluid waited a few seconds and pulled out. Blood just started coming out running down my leg. Wiped once kept coming out held it for a few moments then it stopped..

Only bad scenario I encountered.

How much blood will be in syringe if things go bad?? I have had a little blood in blue/green part that the needle connects to after I'm done but no blood entering into syringe where gear is.

[jm1429]

Another post with great info. Thanks

[crashfirepm53]

Yes this is correct. As well as getting dizzy and probably hit the floor, if you got a significant amount in. Also oil does not mix with the blood in the vein. oops ...crazy mike

You will not get a fast or slow reaction by hitting it into though vein (blood stream) it's not like an opiate. You will not get off, you will end up off your feet, trust me. I don't think you want to question that.......cm

I know there wasn't an increase or decrease with roids I just used opiates as an example as there is a difference.

I have hit a vein before but usually hitting it means you went thru it. I get a "taste" of "fumes" the same as when your having surgery as they administer the anesthesia. I never felt lightheaded or anything but did get the cough when I used tren .