Where's Gdevine???

**austinite** · 05-15-2013, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by TraceMYD

I agree, 100% buddy! I roll my eyes everytime I see the popup ad come up for them. Are those supplements a joke? I mean really what's the deal with them and why?

What does that have to do with this thread?

Let's take the banners down and make this a pay-site with a 2 year contract. All in favor?

**Rusty11** · 05-15-2013, 06:33 PM

Agree. Ok...time for me to stop reading this thread and move on.

AD · 05-15-2013, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by TraceMYD

I agree, 100% buddy! I roll my eyes everytime I see the popup ad come up for them. Are those supplements a joke? I mean really what's the deal with them and why?

they pay the rent.

**bullshark99** · 05-15-2013, 06:41 PM

Ok, wasn't gonna touch this one but now I feel compelled too. GD knowledge second to none, that being said I had my run ins with him. He is NOT a Dr but many of us treated his advice like he was. Whatever, time to turn the page and move on! Many people have already stepped up and posted their wisdom and advice since this fall out, this site will prevail!
My concern and why I am taking the time to post is what HRT said. This forum is in conflict pushing "bullshit" supplements with names of "steroids " and the pop ups constantly and being totally legit with LowT.com. Sorry Admin, I don't understand it??
Once a member (jd2..) questioned it and you went off on him. I'm obviously not the most articulate person by why sell all the nonsense when you guys are totally legit???
Not trying to be one bit confrontational, just confused and would welcome an explanation.

***system admin*** · 05-15-2013, 06:44 PM

I gives me warm feelings inside when I hear people talk about "duping" members. If we were doing that, we wouldn't have a no questions asked return policy and our sales wouldn't continue to improve year after year.

Not everyone is stupid whey buying products and for those of you who think that we scam our members and who sell shit products, why dont you take a look at the following link. Also, why do our sales continue to grow and our brand become more popular each year we are in business?

http://buysteroids.com/pages/Video-T...s#.UZQqt1p37iM

Just because most of the members who post here chose to use anabolic steroids , there are a LOT of people in this country who do NOT wish to use them and are looking for other alternatives. No one asks you to buy our products but it sure is a great feeling to know that many many people chose to buy them year after year.

**bringndaheat** · 05-15-2013, 06:50 PM

This thread is way out of control. It's very clear many here have never run a business. Tht banner which u mock gives us the ability to have ths great site FOR FREE! Wht would u say if ths site sold ur email addys to pay the bill? Wht if they constantly asked for donations. From my seven years on ths site they have never asked me for a damn thing! But they did teach me countless things tht I really can't put a value on! So for all the people bitching about pathetic reasons Get A Life! Or take your God given right and move on to another site! Some people are hear to learn and share not listen to people whine.
Peace!

Heat

**Lunk1** · 05-15-2013, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by system admin

I gives me warm feelings inside when I hear people talk about "duping" members. If we were doing that, we wouldn't have a no questions asked return policy and our sales wouldn't continue to improve year after year.

Not everyone is stupid whey buying products and for those of you who think that we scam our members and who sell shit products, why dont you take a look at the following link. Also, why do our sales continue to grow and our brand become more popular each year we are in business?

Video Testimonials

Just because most of the members who post here chose to use anabolic steroids, there are a LOT of people in this country who do NOT wish to use them and are looking for other alternatives. No one asks you to buy our products but it sure is a great feeling to know that many many people chose to buy them year after year.

You have no need to validate or explain anything to anyone. They are members here because they choose to be and it's FREE! If they are not happy then they can always start paying the bill or not buy anything! This is why the USA is a mess! Free loaders bitching about getting free shyt!

**Joseph956** · 05-15-2013, 06:55 PM

I think the question asked in the thread was sufficiently answered.. This is turning into something else, lock?

***system admin*** · 05-15-2013, 06:57 PM

Speak your minds.... its welcome. I bet there are not many people on this website that wouldn't do the same thing as I have done, but then again it's always easy to say what you would or would not do when there is no proof behind your hypothetical action.

I created a great company and a lot of people enjoy our products. That's all that matter's when running a good company.

**bringndaheat** · 05-15-2013, 06:57 PM

Side note a porn banner would be nice!! LOL truly it would make a shiat ton if money though!

***system admin*** · 05-15-2013, 06:59 PM

^^^^^ Agreed. We are getting off topic and I think what needed to be said was. Enjoy the videos from a bunch of our customers... some really are entertaining!

**bringndaheat** · 05-15-2013, 07:08 PM

There is one very big positive from all this... a business tht is not being criticized either one way or another is simply not doing enough business. So it's very clear BUSINESS IS A BOOMIN!

**ozley62** · 05-15-2013, 07:14 PM

The way some on here are riding GD's nuts they might as well spread the GD apart and drop an O in there and call him THE END ALL GOD OF TRT! I never saw anything from him that didn't look like it was cut and pasted from Crisler, or him saying "my dr. who happens to be one of the leading TRT drs. in the medical field says". He should have finished that with, "which makes me the leading authority on TRT around here by proxy". I'm not here to stroke anyone's ego, I say Adios Mo Fo! There's plenty of other good people that will help you here. And as Forrest Gump would say, "that's all I got to say about that"

**TraceMYD** · 05-15-2013, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

What does that have to do with this thread?

Let's take the banners down and make this a pay-site with a 2 year contract. All in favor?

I'm only responding to a comment, is that "ok" ?

**GMAC10** · 05-15-2013, 08:11 PM

Where is GD because without him this site is nothing special. So he made money! He should, he knows more than 99% of everyone on here and he never pushed me to buy anything... Hopefully he starts his on site so I can join it!

**GMAC10** · 05-15-2013, 08:13 PM

I hope he needs capital and would contact me .. I would back him in a second !

**bringndaheat** · 05-15-2013, 08:18 PM

^^^^ good for you... C ya!!! Even if tht was the case no one part is bigger than the whole. Good luck wth the site

**ctenosaura** · 05-15-2013, 08:24 PM

What's bugging me is all these newbies slamming him. Shut the **** up. Did he make a bad decision? Yes. Did he not abide by some rule of this site? Sound like it. That said, he also helped a lot of us and I believe even though he may have regurgitated information that most here were to lazy to research themselves (me included) he genuinely cared about the well being of members and didn't give anyone a bum steer. In my opinion if you have over 1000 posts then slam away your opinion matters but under 500........shut the **** up!

**MickeyKnox** · 05-15-2013, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Honestly this shouldnt be a topic. Whats done is done. It's a business and those responsible for the business made a business decision. They do us a favor by offering an explantaion even though one isn't required.

The masses asked for an explanation and got a great one. Time to repect the decision and end this thread. It will be someone else next week...maybe me

Get in line. It was me last wk. I had Spike and Chester on my tail. (cartoon reference for those of you that are too young to remember..lol)

**Lunk1** · 05-15-2013, 08:58 PM

Some of you who believe GD was the be all to end all should spend some time in other sections of this site. There are guys on here who are equally or perhaps more helpful than GD everyday. They also do so because they care...and they don't make a dime. Was he helpful..yep. But does that mean that others such as Kel, Vette, Austin, Mick, LowTMike and I'm sure others cant fill the void? Nope!

By this time next month he will be forgotten about. No one here is THAT important!

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 05-15-2013, 09:11 PM

Well I have read all the post in this thread and I have a thought also . The only replies I ever got from GD were busting on me and him throwing his mod weight around ? He would tell me what I was doing wrong but never offered a remedy ? I could have an issue and PM him and if he would reply he was sarcastic and only a half a$$ answer !

I could ask the exact same question to another mod and I will not name him but he would offer very direct answers and to the point with no bashing me ? I Joined this forum thew last half of 2012 and I have found tons of info here and gained a lot of knowledge from many members that seemed to actually give a rip about my issues !

I am a unique case limited income and huge desire to aquire quality TRT assistance and I have searched the Internet and I have not found a better price on quality TRT than what lowtestosterone.com has to offer ! NMO I AM STILL NOT A MEMBER OF THE NETWORK BUT THAT WILL SOON NO LONGER BE ; I WILL BE A CLIENT AND I WILL WORK THEIR AFFILIATE PROGRAAM ! ANY MOD SHOULD EITHER NOT PUSH ANY CLINIC OR SOULD UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO BACK LOWTESTOSTERONE.COM ! I have had mods even steer me away from Crisler's assistance and gave me reason's why not to use him !

I owned my own business for 30 years and all the ppl whinning about one man sounds like a bunch of women ! Being banned is light weight I think the guy should have charges brought against him for out right fraud !

He drove business away from the very site he was supposedly helping was no more than a venue for his own agenda ! In the business world to be betrayed is off the charts as far as ethics go ! The Gym business and related SPA, Fitness Centers, Vitamans Sales, AS FAR AS BASHING THE SPONSOR FOR BACKING THE FORUM , WWHAT ABOUT GNC AND ALL THEIR FAKE BS ? This type of industry has always attracted snakes that were smooth talkers out for a fast buck and he was one of those and in my time since I was 20 I have seen many snakes come and go in this field / type of business !

I hope the guy rots for using another man's earned $$$ to promote his agenda ! For this forum to have been around for over 10 years speaks eons ! It will be here when him and snakes like him are in jail for white collar crimes of possibly feleons for selling gear and that is just what he did commit bad crime and got away with it !

I know some ppl dislike my post and I hate it I am not as sharp as many on this forum but there is tons of info on this forum and many knowledgable members that offer assistance and ask for nothing in return ! I actually admire some members that are not even mods that are willing to tell me no that is a dumb idea you should not do that and I have received nothing except ethicial advise from every mod that has PM'd me and taken time to reply to my questions.

I have spoken with Mike ande Justin at lowtestosterone.com and they have offered me all good honest straight forward advise and no pushy sales just offered fact to assist me in making my decission and try to offer all the advise they could in the mean time getting me on board !

I think GD more than likely had a great deal of knowledge but he had one hell of an ego to go with it ! Nothing wrong with that most gear heads do but not to the extent of GD .

Now I have stated my opinion and yes it has the same bad grammar and misspelled words as most of my post but I read the whole thread and the fact that some ppl want to bow up and defend a snake is like an OJ Simpson supporter ! Let him go and go far ! There is nothing worse in business than a back stabbing theif and to that there is no do overs ! Like the guy or not he was dead wrong with no defence from what the owner of the forum says and it is his forum so what he does to protect his interest is the gospel and that is the end of discussion with reguards to a ungreatful theif !

So to GD's fan club; You can hate on me all you want but his actions are unexcussable and I can't believe that educated men have tried to get off topic and defend him or get him back and to the GMAC guy you are plainly not experienced in building a company ? You state out right that you will give a theif your money and you talk like a boy with his head up his a$$ ! If he stole from
" B " he will steal from you so you have basicly sstated you think stealing is OK ? WTF ?

And that's all I have to say about that !

**MickeyKnox** · 05-15-2013, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Some of you who believe GD was the be all to end all should spend some time in other sections of this site. There are guys on here who are equally or perhaps more helpful than GD everyday. They also do so because they care...and they don't make a dime. Was he helpful..yep. But does that mean that others such as Kel, Vette, Austin, Mick, LowTMike and I'm sure others cant fill the void? Nope!

By this time next month he will be forgotten about. No one here is THAT important!

Well said Lunk, particularly that last line.

**JD250** · 05-15-2013, 09:25 PM

Admin, Thanks for allowing us to speak our minds, there are those who find opposing opinions offensive.....I don't get it but whatever. I've had my moments on this subject but honestly guys there isn't but about 2 people on the face of the earth who actually think that those are "steroids " ........ my mouth has gotten me in trouble over this in the past but after a little thought I really can't find fault with it, especially if you look close at the products in the banner, besides that after a few PMs with Admin I can tell you with a great deal of certainty that he is a great business man and his success doesn't come from being a crook, he's a smart man who risks things that others would never think of. That said, I liked GD a lot but he was stealing from the man who hired him.......... it's a no brainer albeit very sad. As mentioned there are a bunch of knowledgable people here and I look forward to learning along with them.

**MickeyKnox** · 05-15-2013, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by JD250

Admin, Thanks for allowing us to speak our minds, there are those who find opposing opinions offensive.....I don't get it but whatever. I've had my moments on this subject but honestly guys there isn't but about 2 people on the face of the earth who actually think that those are "steroids" ........ my mouth has gotten me in trouble over this in the past but after a little thought I really can't find fault with it, especially if you look close at the products in the banner, besides that after a few PMs with Admin I can tell you with a great deal of certainty that he is a great business man and his success doesn't come from being a crook, he's a smart man who risks things that others would never think of. That said, I liked GD a lot but he was stealing from the man who hired him.......... it's a no brainer albeit very sad. As mentioned there are a bunch of knowledgable people here and I look forward to learning along with them.

I totally agree with this. And im relieved that Brian welcomes our questions and does NOT attempt to muzzle the membership when they have legitimate and intelligent questions to ask. For anyone other than the Administrators to suggest no follow up questions are to be asked, is simply arrogant.

And quite frankly the Supplements offered on this site have helped many members and non members who simply do not wish to engage in the administration of daily or wkly needles. Some folks are terrified of needles but can benefit from alternative supplements. Personally, i think its terrific idea - a win win.

**bass** · 05-15-2013, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by ctenosaura

What's bugging me is all these newbies slamming him. Shut the **** up. Did he make a bad decision? Yes. Did he not abide by some rule of this site? Sound like it. That said, he also helped a lot of us and I believe even though he may have regurgitated information that most here were to lazy to research themselves (me included) he genuinely cared about the well being of members and didn't give anyone a bum steer. In my opinion if you have over 1000 posts then slam away your opinion matters but under 500........shut the **** up!

LOL! What would be fair is if GD can tell his side of the story.

**austinite** · 05-15-2013, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I totally agree with this. And im relieved that Brian welcomes our questions and does NOT attempt to muzzle the membership when they have legitimate and intelligent questions to ask. For anyone other than the Administrators to suggest no follow up questions are to be asked, is simply arrogant.

And quite frankly the Supplements offered on this site have helped many members and non members who simply do not wish to engage in the administration of daily or wkly needles. Some folks are terrified of needles but can benefit from alternative supplements. Personally, i think its terrific idea - a win win.

You need to relax. We all know what you're doing, try keeping it out of this section. The "no follow up questions" was specifically so that Admin would chime in, which is clearly stated. We didn't know much either until admin and bc chimed in.. It was better to hold off until they spoke up. Don't be a trouble maker, that's all you've been doing lately.

You've degraded tremendously. Shame.

BG · 05-16-2013, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I totally agree with this. And im relieved that Brian welcomes our questions and does NOT attempt to muzzle the membership when they have legitimate and intelligent questions to ask. For anyone other than the Administrators to suggest no follow up questions are to be asked, is simply arrogant.

And quite frankly the Supplements offered on this site have helped many members and non members who simply do not wish to engage in the administration of daily or wkly needles. Some folks are terrified of needles but can benefit from alternative supplements. Personally, i think its terrific idea - a win win.

Man, when you typed this last post did you have a snorkel on or a air tank to breath????