Where's Gdevine???

**jomamma007** · 05-13-2013, 12:11 PM

where are you!?

**austinite** · 05-13-2013, 12:42 PM

gdevine is no longer here. If Admin chooses to discuss this, he will. But until then... no follow up questions please.

Thanks.

**Lunk1** · 05-13-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

gdevine is no longer here. If Admin chooses to discuss this, he will. But until then... no follow up questions please.

Thanks.

Woe...what?

**powerlifterty16** · 05-13-2013, 01:19 PM

gdevine got banned yesterday and then changed his name to steroid .com1...look a this profile it's the same.

**jomamma007** · 05-13-2013, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

gdevine is no longer here. If Admin chooses to discuss this, he will. But until then... no follow up questions please.

Thanks.

That's a shame. He was one of if not the most valuable consistent contributor on these boards ):. Bring him back admin!

**powerlifterty16** · 05-13-2013, 01:24 PM

he'z still here

**100%** · 05-13-2013, 01:26 PM

**bass** · 05-13-2013, 01:40 PM

does this mean Admin now have access to GD's PMs?! really what happened here? GD was a huge member here and we all got tons of greta advice from him, we deserve an explanation. please.

**RipOwens** · 05-13-2013, 01:54 PM

This is confusing ...

**Lunk1** · 05-13-2013, 02:00 PM

Only Admin has the ability to change a user name.

**Vettester** · 05-13-2013, 03:03 PM

If Admin wants to elaborate he will do so when he's ready. For now, please respect the privacy of the matter.

**junk2222yard** · 05-13-2013, 03:45 PM

If it is true that gd is gone, this site just went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down for two reasons:

1. gd is gone
2. there is no explanation offered to the members here why he is gone

**Rusty11** · 05-13-2013, 05:20 PM

That's a shame. However, this is a forum. People come and go. Honestly, I got annoyed by some individuals acting like he is/was their personal physician...not asking, but almost demanding answers and getting pissed if he didn't respond quick enough. What a burden. Anyway, we'll see what happens. There are other VERY knowledgeable ppl here. Maybe they will check in a little more often.

**crashfirepm53** · 05-13-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by junk2222yard

If it is true that gd is gone, this site just went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down for two reasons:

1. gd is gone
2. there is no explanation offered to the members here why he is gone

Double that chit.

***LowT Mike*** · 05-13-2013, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty11

That's a shame. However, this is a forum. People come and go. Honestly, I got annoyed by some individuals acting like he is/was their personal physician...not asking, but almost demanding answers and getting pissed if he didn't respond quick enough. What a burden. Anyway, we'll see what happens. There are other VERY knowledgeable ppl here. Maybe they will check in a little more often.

Quite the contrary. We are going up and up. Bringing in actual QUALIFIED Board Certified Anti-Aging Practitioners like myself that have years of EXPERIENCE analyzing 10s of thousands of labs and actually treating patients not just regurgitating information from the web and practicing medicine without a license. This medicine is not one size fits all and must be medically advised using FDA approved pharmaceuticals...NOT buying meds overseas made in someones bathtub implementing blanket diagnoses, and treatment protocols. With that said. We are here to assist everyone with the best protocols, tried and tested along with the most current industry standards giving you ACCURATE advice and make sure you are getting the best and SAFEST care possible. Please PM me anytime. Lowtestosterone.com medical staff is here to help you with any and all questions.

Michael Brookins, Board Certified Anti-Aging and Regenerative Medicine
Chief Clinical Advisor, Lowtestosterone.com

**kelkel** · 05-13-2013, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by LowT Mike

Quite the contrary. We are going up and up. Bringing in actual QUALIFIED Board Certified Anti-Aging Practitioners like myself that have years of EXPERIENCE analyzing labs a treating people not just regurgitating information from the web and practicing medicine without a license. We are here to assist with the best protocols, tried and tested along with the most current industry standards giving you ACCURATE advice and make sure you are getting the best and SAFEST care possible. Please PM me anytime. Lowtestosterone.com medical staff is here to help you with any and all questions.

Michael Brookins, Board Certified Anti-Aging and Regenerative Medicine
Chief Clinical Advisor, Lowtestosterone.com

Thanks for that Mike.

**EverettCD** · 05-13-2013, 08:44 PM

You mean gdevine isn't a Dr ????

Sent from my iPhone that was manufactured in a sweat shop in China

***LowT Mike*** · 05-13-2013, 08:54 PM

NO he is not

**JimR** · 05-13-2013, 08:59 PM

half the stuff Gene said was good...half he pulled out his ass. I liked him..

**Rusty11** · 05-13-2013, 09:17 PM

Sorry for any confusion. The point of my post was that there are many other qualified, knowledgeable guys here.

**100%** · 05-13-2013, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by LowT Mike

Quite the contrary. We are going up and up. Bringing in actual QUALIFIED Board Certified Anti-Aging Practitioners like myself that have years of EXPERIENCE analyzing 10s of thousands of labs and actually treating patients not just regurgitating information from the web and practicing medicine without a license. This medicine is not one size fits all and must be medically advised using FDA approved pharmaceuticals...NOT buying meds overseas made in someones bathtub implementing blanket diagnoses, and treatment protocols. With that said. We are here to assist everyone with the best protocols, tried and tested along with the most current industry standards giving you ACCURATE advice and make sure you are getting the best and SAFEST care possible. Please PM me anytime. Lowtestosterone.com medical staff is here to help you with any and all questions.

Michael Brookins, Board Certified Anti-Aging and Regenerative Medicine
Chief Clinical Advisor, Lowtestosterone.com

So are we not aloud to post case studies that pertain to members questions? Regurgitating information we better replace all the stickys.

***system admin*** · 05-13-2013, 09:30 PM

Guys,

The site is not going down, as this type of situation happens on a regular basis around here.

The reason for GD being banned has nothing to do with his contribution to this forum. As a matter of fact, it was his contribution that got him in trouble and caused the staff here to look further into GD and launched a full on investigation. We found that not only was he making up to 40% commission off of a pharmacy he was pushing, but he was also secretly pushing the members of this site to other Low Testosterone clinics as well as several other peptide companies. This website is not only a place for everyone to educate and research. This is MY company and there are rules that have been put in place over the last 12 years that were designed to protect my interest in this company and staff members are fully aware of these rules.

You can NOT become a staff member on this forum and purposely undermine the very thing that keeps this website online and available to the public. I am personally very shocked at the findings and more than anything I am DISAPPOINTED in GD's more than 2 year long sourcing career, but I have verified that these accusations are 100% factual and the decision is final.

For those of you who were helped by GD and who grew close to him on steroid .com, I want you to know that I feel your pain and I am sorry to have to bring this news. In my years of experience, there are three types of "KEY" members of this website. The first is the type of person who is here helping day in and day out because they love the forum and its members. The second is someone who is here to build a reputation and is drawn to the dark side of this industry and uses that reputation to make a damn good amount of money. The third is someone who loves the forum and the members, but has also made a conscious decision to break the very well known rules and take a chance at WHEN they get caught. I think GD falls into this last category. I have spoken to him quite a few times on the phone, I have shared both good and bad news while building LowTestosterone.com with him, I have asked for his advice and input, and I have even planned on meeting him for a face to face when I visited his location 7 months ago. However, the problem again is that I have invested MANY millions of dollars, 16 years of my time, and have taken risks that would make most people close up shop and call it a day. I will not tolerate coming into my home, acting to befriend me, and then steal from my home while I wasn't paying attention.

Is this site going down hill? I think everyone knows the answer to that. Did we lose a really helpful member that gave a lot of his time? Absolutely. This wasn't personal, this was business. However, on a personal level, I am a bit pissed off about the whole thing.

**100%** · 05-13-2013, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by system admin

Guys,

The site is not going down, as this type of situation happens on a regular basis around here.

The reason for GD being banned has nothing to do with his contribution to this forum. As a matter of fact, it was his contribution that got him in trouble and caused the staff here to look further into GD and launched a full on investigation. We found that not only was he making up to 40% commission off of a pharmacy he was pushing, but he was also secretly pushing the members of this site to other Low Testosterone clinics as well as several other peptide companies. This website is not only a place for everyone to educate and research. This is MY company and there are rules that have been put in place over the last 12 years that were designed to protect my interest in this company and staff members are fully aware of these rules.

You can NOT become a staff member on this forum and purposely undermine the very thing that keeps this website online and available to the public. I am personally very shocked at the findings and more than anything I am DISAPPOINTED in GD's more than 2 year long sourcing career, but I have verified that these accusations are 100% factual and the decision is final.

For those of you who were helped by GD and who grew close to him on steroid .com, I want you to know that I feel your pain and I am sorry to have to bring this news. In my years of experience, there are three types of "KEY" members of this website. The first is the type of person who is here helping day in and day out because they love the forum and its members. The second is someone who is here to build a reputation and is drawn to the dark side of this industry and uses that reputation to make a damn good amount of money. The third is someone who loves the forum and the members, but has also made a conscious decision to break the very well known rules and take a chance at WHEN they get caught. I think GD falls into this last category. I have spoken to him quite a few times on the phone, I have shared both good and bad news while building LowTestosterone.com with him, I have asked for his advice and input, and I have even planned on meeting him for a face to face when I visited his location 7 months ago. However, the problem again is that I have invested MANY millions of dollars, 16 years of my time, and have taken risks that would make most people close up shop and call it a day. I will not tolerate coming into my home, acting to befriend me, and then steal from my home while I wasn't paying attention.

Is this site going down hill? I think everyone knows the answer to that. Did we lose a really helpful member that gave a lot of his time? Absolutely. This wasn't personal, this was business. However, on a personal level, I am a bit pissed off about the whole thing.

Thank you

**Lunk1** · 05-13-2013, 09:38 PM

Business is business.....

**junk2222yard** · 05-13-2013, 09:40 PM

I my opinion, gd was the most helpful vet here. In my opinion, this site is greatly diminished without him.

System Admin, thank you for the explanation. It gives us regular Joe users some background as to why it happened, instead of just leaving us thinking "wtf"?

***system admin*** · 05-13-2013, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by 100%

So are we not aloud to post case studies that pertain to members questions? Regurgitating information we better replace all the stickys.

I think what LowT Mike is trying to say is that although the information learned by passing information from person to person can be extremely helpful, people who have had formal training and have practiced this knowledge hands on for many years are in a far better position to help. It is the help from those who have hands on training who set the standard for all of us to share. If you found a tone of disrespect in LTM's post, its probably because GD pushing members away from the company that he has worked so hard to help build. Not many people like that type of behavior...

**bringndaheat** · 05-13-2013, 10:02 PM

Thanks admin and LTM. As a person who has owned businesses I completely understand. Nothing is worse than being betrayed by someone you trust. GD was good but he was a small peace in much larger puzzle .

-Heat

**JD250** · 05-13-2013, 10:09 PM

Thanks for the explanation admin. and sorry it went down like this....too bad really.....time to move on. Mike, thanks for your input also and glad to see you on here, look forward to hearing more from you in the future.

AD · 05-13-2013, 10:19 PM

andropause /hypogonadism is a real medical condition, and must be treated by a real doctor. this is different from a weekend gym warrior who wants to get big with a roid cycle. whatever you learn from here or any other forum, please check with a real doctor before you proceed to make yourself into a guinea pig.

but since you're here, you can check with LowT Mike.

**powerlifterty16** · 05-13-2013, 10:33 PM

not gonna lie, i always thought something was fishy about him, and what a slimeball thing to do. I think your site will grow, now that you dont have someone betraying you. Sounds like you have a good plan in place....congrats.

***Admin*** · 05-14-2013, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by bass

does this mean Admin now have access to GD's PMs?! really what happened here? GD was a huge member here and we all got tons of greta advice from him, we deserve an explanation. please.

No we do not have access to his pm's... he was banned... as you can read above with good reason... facts are facts!

**joebailey1271** · 05-14-2013, 01:57 AM

Yea i run a business and when i catch an employee stealling supplies to help his pay along, banning is alot nicer than what i would. I allways wondered if he was getting a kick back for that really high dollar DHEA he was suppoorting a few months back.

**xcraider37** · 05-14-2013, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by joebailey1271

Yea i run a business and when i catch an employee stealling supplies to help his pay along, banning is alot nicer than what i would. I allways wondered if he was getting a kick back for that really high dollar DHEA he was suppoorting a few months back.

Bottom line is any of us with half a brain could of figured out where to buy the dhea or generic cialis GD was pushing we didn't need his referral. Did these drugs work? I don't know I never tried them.

***Admin*** · 05-14-2013, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

Bottom line is any of us with half a brain could of figured out where to buy the dhea or generic cialis GD was pushing we didn't need his referral. Did these drugs work? I don't know I never tried them.

Exactly but with his referral he made a 40% commission off of each of you... unknown to each of you of course... did the product work I have no idea either and do not know if he knew... but we do know that he made money selling them to you so did that really matter to him...

He had an agenda and used us for it...

**joebailey1271** · 05-14-2013, 07:56 AM

EXRAIDER-----Dhea, no doubt, not even what i was talking about bud. Pay attention, I like Gd, learned alot from his post. I never said anything about finding DHEA, hell they have it at Wallmart, what I did say is he did a post not long ago supporting a certain brand, 1st he touted lif products, then he switched to another. I just had to wonder if he was repping the company for some kickback. Anyways thats cheap, and he should have told people that he was working for them.

And if i found someone making money off my company, id slap the piss out of them and take their wallet

**xcraider37** · 05-14-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by joebailey1271

EXRAIDER-----Dhea, no doubt, not even what i was talking about bud. Pay attention, I like Gd, learned alot from his post. I never said anything about finding DHEA, hell they have it at Wallmart, what I did say is he did a post not long ago supporting a certain brand, 1st he touted lif products, then he switched to another. I just had to wonder if he was repping the company for some kickback. Anyways thats cheap, and he should have told people that he was working for them.

And if i found someone making money off my company, id slap the piss out of them and take their wallet

Joe pay attention it was a generalized statement, relax dude.

**xcraider37** · 05-14-2013, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by *Admin*

Exactly but with his referral he made a 40% commission off of each of you... unknown to each of you of course... did the product work I have no idea either and do not know if he knew... but we do know that he made money selling them to you so did that really matter to him...

He had an agenda and used us for it...

Totally agree ADMIN, I applaud you guys for taking action.

**GotNoBlueMilk** · 05-14-2013, 09:29 AM

Well, that 40% commission made his posts here a job (gathering more followers and commission), not a gift. No wonder he was so prolific here.

I will miss his posts, though.

***system admin*** · 05-14-2013, 09:42 AM

Its a double edge sword isn't it guys? On one hand, if we allowed more people to sell and make money on this forum for simply providing great advice and befriending members, we would have a board full of helpful and educated members and questions would be answered within seconds of posting them up. However, on the other hand, the forum will lose its all natural feel and no one would really trust anyone because it was all just done for money. There is a real science to how message boards evolve over many years and I think this is why steroid .com and its members really stay ahead of the game. Each year we get better and better and each year we find a loop hole that can be closed to keep the integrity of the forum in check.

Again, as stated above.... you are all part of this huge puzzle. No one person or even a "Click" on this forum makes it great. Its all of us as a community that makes this place complete.

Bc

**bass** · 05-14-2013, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by powerlifterty16

not gonna lie, i always thought something was fishy about him, and what a slimeball thing to do. I think your site will grow, now that you dont have someone betraying you. Sounds like you have a good plan in place....congrats.

regarding PMs that was a joke! and thanks for the explanation. I've seen this happen before and nothing will change, I am sorry to see him go but you got to do what you got to do.