Add statins (cholesterol meds) to the list of testosterone lowering medications.

[LowT Mike]

Statins are effective and popular cholesterol-lowering medications. But they also have some possible side effects, including memory loss and high blood sugar. Now lower testosterone may join the list.

Statins Reduce More Than Cholesterol | dailyRx

[redhawk01]

Statins are effective and popular cholesterol-lowering medications. But they also have some possible side effects, including memory loss and high blood sugar. Now lower testosterone may join the list.

Statins Reduce More Than Cholesterol | dailyRx

May? It dropped my t levels over 300 points. At my lowest, I was at 250 while on statins. Went on TRT after that. After a few issues were looked into while on TRT, my endo wanted me off for 3 months to retest. I had made a decision to quit statins on my own, after I did my own research.

When I retested for the endo, I had already been off statins for a year, and my t level went up to 550, so no more TRT. Now when I get blood work done for my wellness program at work, it'll be interesting to see where my cholesterol levels are at. I have already cleaned up my diet, so I'm hopeful it's fine.

Funny thing is, none of my doctors put 2&2 together about the statin sides.

[Java Man]

Either that or your doctors considered the high cholesterol more of a risk than low t.

I'm.considering getting off simvastatin. Depends on my next bt result. I probably won't tell my doctor though. Just stockpile it for when I cycle. Same with propanolol. My bp is good now so probably don't really need it anymore on a daily basis.

[Beethoven]

Does anyone know if blood pressure meds lower test also?

[powerlifterty16]

Does anyone know if blood pressure meds lower test also?

f i had to guess, id say yes.

The question is, how can one come off statins and still keep cholesterol in check? My dad's t is 412 on statins and diabetes meds, im sure if he came off the statins hed be at 500, which at 56 is def a solid elvel...and id advise him to stay natural. his cholesterol goes up though.

what about niacin or lovaza?

[kelkel]

Slo-Niacin will help. Good DHEA levels will as well.

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

[powerlifterty16]

Slo-Niacin will help. Good DHEA levels will as well.

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

you know what's weird? my dhea was nearly 700 whe n ichecked it, yet i think i have primary hypogonadism..i have a weird ****ing body man.

i got the niacin idea from you. one thing i saw though was slo niacin contains trans fat....so im weary of it. I was going to buy some for myself, but scared of flushing....should i buy the 250 pills? im ordering vitamins from amazon tomorrow so any help you could give me before then would be appreciated.

[kelkel]

That's the point of "Slo" Niacin. You barely feel the flush. I take 750mg at bedtime. Slo-Niacin is the brand name.

[LowT Mike]

Slo-Niacin will help. Good DHEA levels will as well.

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

Doing a Niacin flush is great. I personally do this. I will never take a statin medication. Statins do have their place ie-- If you are in a retirment home, bed ridden, get no exercise. Then yes a statin might keep you from having a Cardiac event.

[APIs]

Bashing Statin Meds seems to happen a lot on here. It’s really a disservice to those Men who may actually need to take these class of drugs IMO. A lot of the troubles encountered occur from Docs over dosing these meds. I'm on 15 mgs of Crestor per week. My lipids are perfect most of the time with no other adverse affects being present. Like anything on this forum, you should discuss the use of Statins with your Doc before making any decisions...

[redhawk01]

Bashing Statin Meds seems to happen a lot on here. It's really a disservice to those Men who may actually need to take these class of drugs IMO. A lot of the troubles encountered occur from Docs over dosing these meds. I'm on 15 mgs of Crestor per week. My lipids are perfect most of the time with no other adverse affects being present. Like anything on this forum, you should discuss the use of Statins with your Doc before making any decisions...

I'm not bashing, just giving my actual experience on them. If I need them again, I'm going to request a lower starting dose. Maybe doc had me too high. Within 3 months on statins, my cholesterol was nearly perfect. Within a year my test crashed. I'm sure I'll be starting this experiment again real soon.

[powerlifterty16]

I'm not bashing, just giving my actual experience on them. If I need them again, I'm going to request a lower starting dose. Maybe doc had me too high. Within 3 months on statins, my cholesterol was nearly perfect. Within a year my test crashed. I'm sure I'll be starting this experiment again real soon.

is lovaza good for lowering cholesterol?

[redhawk01]

is lovaza good for lowering cholesterol?

Never heard of it. I was on Simvastatin, generic for zocor.

[Bonaparte]

is lovaza good for lowering cholesterol?

You mean lovastatin? That's likely the safest one.

[powerlifterty16]

You mean lovastatin? That's likely the safest one.

no lovaza the fish oil pills but prescription grade. I have no copays on medicines so even though reg fish oil may work was considering asking for these.

Lovaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Bonaparte]

no lovaza the fish oil pills but prescription grade. I have no copays on medicines so even though reg fish oil may work was considering asking for these.

Lovaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Omega 3 is effective for lowering triglycerides, not LDL.

[austinite]

Lovaza is good stuff and already contains Vitamin E so you don't have to take that separately.

[powerlifterty16]

Lovaza is good stuff and already contains Vitamin E so you don't have to take that separately.

i wonder if the endo would prescribe it to me

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according to the article quoted, "In five trials involving 501 men taking statins, testosterone levels decreased by an average of 0.66 nmol/L (a measure of nanomoles per liter). "

that is slightly less than 20ng/dL.

doesn't sound like much to me. weigh that against the risk of getting a heart attack from uncontrolled cholesterol, some of us might just choose the statin anyway.

[austinite]

i wonder if the endo would prescribe it to me

I don't see why not. I'm just using Life Extension's right now, really hoping they come out with a Vitamin E-included Fish oil. Otherwise their product is outstanding.

[powerlifterty16]

I don't see why not. I'm just using Life Extension's right now, really hoping they come out with a Vitamin E-included Fish oil. Otherwise their product is outstanding.

does lovaza only deal with triglycerides like someone else said? my triglycerides were 89 so not too bad..my ldl and total need improvement.

why do u take e? i only take d and b12...so if i ever start trt my stack will be d, b12, lovaza, and trt/hcg .

[austinite]

does lovaza only deal with triglycerides like someone else said? my triglycerides were 89 so not too bad..my ldl and total need improvement.

why do u take e? i only take d and b12...so if i ever start trt my stack will be d, b12, lovaza, and trt/hcg.

There's really nothing lovazo can do, that an OTC supplement can't. The only reason I like it is because it contains E. Vitamin E protects the fatty acids. So I take LEF fish oil which is high in EFA's along with Vitamin E Tocopherols. Always take E with fish oil.

[powerlifterty16]

There's really nothing lovazo can do, that an OTC supplement can't. The only reason I like it is because it contains E. Vitamin E protects the fatty acids. So I take LEF fish oil which is high in EFA's along with Vitamin E Tocopherols. Always take E with fish oil.

yeah i agree wih you that lovaza is nothing special, and to be honest i think liquid fish oild otc is better..i used to take one and got an easy 3300k omega 3( dhea and epa not just fish oil) from a spoon ful...but my question was more along the lines of fish oil in general. Is it benficial for total chol and ldl, or just triglycerides?

I didnt know that about the vitamin e!

you should try this product i used to take it..it's really tasty too...Nature's Answer, Liquid Omega-3, Deep Sea Fish Oil EPA/DHA, Natural Orange Flavor, 16 fl oz (480 ml) - iHerb.com


hmm should i buy this again and say screw the lovaza?

[austinite]

^ If that label is accurate, that's a decent dose. I like it. Get some E tocopherol and you're good to go.

[powerlifterty16]

im just going to go with slo niacin...im still pretty worried about the flushing though...kind of thinking of buying the 250 mg dose and taking one in the morning and one at night.
i also dont like how it contains hydrogenated oil...aka trans fat

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[kelkel]

im just going to go with slo niacin...im still pretty worried about the flushing though...kind of thinking of buying the 250 mg dose and taking one in the morning and one at night.
i also dont like how it contains hydrogenated oil...aka trans fat

Nothing to worry about. You barely feel it! Just take it at bedtime and you'll be fine.

[Bonaparte]

im just going to go with slo niacin...im still pretty worried about the flushing though...kind of thinking of buying the 250 mg dose and taking one in the morning and one at night.
i also dont like how it contains hydrogenated oil...aka trans fat

Partial hydrogenation can yield trans fats. Hydrogenated oils are just saturated fats.

[powerlifterty16]

Nothing to worry about. You barely feel it! Just take it at bedtime and you'll be fine.

idk man i think like all meds some people have different tolerances...also doesnt slo niacin cause liver issues?

[powerlifterty16]

Partial hydrogenation can yield trans fats. Hydrogenated oils are just saturated fats.

very interesting man