Wish there was a magic pill!

[bethdoth]

I have been fighting low T for 2 years now and still can't get consistent results. I started with Androgel and then the patch, finally sub Q injections in Dec 2012. I have not had the same doctor for more than 2 appointments since starting injections. Aurora Baycare clinic in Green Bay currently has no endro Doctor so I am back to my GP. Here is a history of the hodgepodge of labs done since I started. from 5/22 to 7/24 I was doing 60mg test subQ every 3.5 days, 250mg HCG M-W-F and 10mg liquid stane 24 hours after T. I just increased T to 65mg every 3.5 so we will see where I am next time.

One thing that may be messing me up is leakage. I do my injections in my thigh where there is very little fat and it varies from injection to injection on how much oil leaks out after my injection. Is there a trick to stopping the leakage? Sometimes I feel 1/4 of the injection leaks out. I don't get leakage if I inject in my fattier stomach, but got bad absorption results injecting there.

12/06/2011 total test 260 no E2
02/17/2012 total test 321.7 no E2
05/30/2012 total test 288.9 no E2
07/17/2012 total test 264.6 E2 19
12/07/2012 total test 303.9 free test 64 no E2
01/23/2013 total test 394.1 no E2
03/06/2013 total test 852 E2 52
04/17/2013 total test 493 E2 37
05/22/2013 total test 1056 free test 265 E2 27
07/24/2013 total test 536 free test 126 E2 24

[2Sox]

I have been fighting low T for 2 years now and still can't get consistent results. I started with Androgel and then the patch, finally sub Q injections in Dec 2012. I have not had the same doctor for more than 2 appointments since starting injections. Aurora Baycare clinic in Green Bay currently has no endro Doctor so I am back to my GP. Here is a history of the hodgepodge of labs done since I started. from 5/22 to 7/24 I was doing 60mg test subQ every 3.5 days, 250mg HCG M-W-F and 10mg liquid stane 24 hours after T. I just increased T to 65mg every 3.5 so we will see where I am next time.

One thing that may be messing me up is leakage. I do my injections in my thigh where there is very little fat and it varies from injection to injection on how much oil leaks out after my injection. Is there a trick to stopping the leakage? Sometimes I feel 1/4 of the injection leaks out. I don't get leakage if I inject in my fattier stomach, but got bad absorption results injecting there.

12/06/2011 total test 260 no E2
02/17/2012 total test 321.7 no E2
05/30/2012 total test 288.9 no E2
07/17/2012 total test 264.6 E2 19
12/07/2012 total test 303.9 free test 64 no E2
01/23/2013 total test 394.1 no E2
03/06/2013 total test 852 E2 52
04/17/2013 total test 493 E2 37
05/22/2013 total test 1056 free test 265 E2 27
07/24/2013 total test 536 free test 126 E2 24

How do you do SQ in a thigh muscle? Doesn't compute.

Try the love handles or fat above the glutes.

From my knowledge, Androgel is typically under-dosed. I've gotten great results in the past with 4 pumps/day. Felt like Superman. How many pumps/day were you using?

Do you take an ai?

[Buddyguy]

Yea I've never heard of anyone doing sub q into the thigh?

[bethdoth]

I was doing 4 pumps 2 per shoulder didn't work for me. Yes liquid stane is an ai.
I think a lot of people pinch up what little fat they have on there thigh and do sub q there. You divide the thigh into 4 quadrants and inject in the upper outside quadrant. Subcutaneous Injection - YouTube This example isn't quite sub q but with her BF and short needle it probably is, but most of us that are lean would pinch up what fat he have and inject on a 45 degree angle.

[jasondd1]

Ive heard of sub q in thigh. I think several guys on here do it. IM for me. Have you tried IM because it doesnt seem to work for all sub q. Ive never heard it not working IM though.

[powerlifterty16]

i did subq hcg in the thigh..i didnt divide it up though just did it where i felt like it

[bethdoth]

I do 65mg subq in the thigh. I have considered IM but feel that subq is the way to go... as you can see my E2 shot up once my test came up. I think it would be worse if I went IM.

[bass]

I been doing it on the thigh for a long time and no problems, you can do SQ pretty much anywhere there is fat, no need to do it in a specific location is SQ, the only reason its recommended to do it in specific area is to avoid nerves and arteries doing it IM, you have none in fat. find the thickest area on your thigh and go for it.