b12 shots

[highpsi]

Thinking about adding them. Can anyone pm me a good vender that sells them? And of course sub q or IM? Seems to be as divided as the test debate.

[powerlifterty16]

Thinking about adding them. Can anyone pm me a good vender that sells them? And of course sub q or IM? Seems to be as divided as the test debate.

im pretty sure subq works fine, and i think u can even buy b12 on amazon..the shots. make sure u get methyl.
i personally use the sublingual lozenseges and my b12 level is above the measurable limits of labcorp with one tab per day..jarrow b12 methyl 5000..they are a good rbeathmint in the morning..my stubborn dad finally listened to me and takes them and d3 5000 too

[bass]

I just got oral B12 methyl from ARR, too early to make any conclusions, but if that works just as good as shots it might be something to look into.

[austinite]

If you can get ahold of Methylcobalamin, that's going to be the superior form as it does not require conversion. IM or SubQ is fine.

[Rott3n]

I just got oral B12 methyl from ARR, too early to make any conclusions, but if that works just as good as shots it might be something to look into.

Hi bass. How many servings does the bottle contain?

[bass]

50 servings, one serving per day. one full dropper makes 1000mcg. take under the tongue.

Methyl B12 Drops

[highpsi]

I'll try a bottle from amazon, looks like cyanocobalamin is about the only choice. I did go through a bottle of those tasty jarrows 5ks, blood is still unbalanced.

[crazy mike]

Hi Op, I can't find my other post. I bought Jarrow Formula's brand Methyl B-12 from a source on the net. You'll have to find your own source but that;s easy.

As I previously posted somewhere, for money sake I bought the 5,000mcg lozenges and dissolve one (1) a day in my mouth and fell 200 % better. I had NO appetite and NO energy. My appetite is good now, normal and a bit better and my energy just came thru the roof the first week. It has tapered off bit is so much better.

I'm just posting and saying that I got real good results, better than I was expecting with the Methyl B-12. The results I think would be much better maybe if injected but it is a bit more money then I can do. I found many, many sources on Google. Good luck ...crazy mike

[powerlifterty16]

I'll try a bottle from amazon, looks like cyanocobalamin is about the only choice. I did go through a bottle of those tasty jarrows 5ks, blood is still unbalanced.

NOOO amazon has jarrow 5k METHYL...get the methyl..it works dude.
why did u quit if u liked them?

[crazy mike]

People need to be carful from overloading on Cyanocobalamin B-12 because of cyanide poisoning. I don't know how much you would have to take. Probably a sh!t load but it has some tiny bit of cyanide in it.
I was talking a lot but didn't get sick, far from it I suppose. ..crazy mike

[austinite]

People need to be carful from overloading on Cyanocobalamin B-12 because of cyanide poisoning. I don't know how much you would have to take. Probably a sh!t load but it has some tiny bit of cyanide in it.
I was talking a lot but didn't get sick, far from it I suppose. ..crazy mike

Not really, Mike. No issues with Cyanocobalamin even in incredibly massive doses.

[powerlifterty16]

People need to be carful from overloading on Cyanocobalamin B-12 because of cyanide poisoning. I don't know how much you would have to take. Probably a sh!t load but it has some tiny bit of cyanide in it.
I was talking a lot but didn't get sick, far from it I suppose. ..crazy mike

agree with this...cyanide is a no no for me

[austinite]

http://www.crnusa.org/safetypdfs/013...vitaminB12.pdf

[FRDave]

I just picked up the Now brand of Methyl B-12 5000mcg w/ 400mcg of folic acid from Amazon.

I use to use MRM banded Methyl B-12 2000mcg w/ 400mcg of folic acid and have blood work showing it worked, but wanted to up my dosage.

[bass]

I just picked up the Now brand of Methyl B-12 5000mcg w/ 400mcg of folic acid from Amazon.

I use to use MRM banded Methyl B-12 2000mcg w/ 400mcg of folic acid and have blood work showing it worked, but wanted to up my dosage.

that's good to know, i'll also include B12 in my next BW to see if ARR oral B12 is working, if not then will do injections.

[powerlifterty16]

that's good to know, i'll also include B12 in my next BW to see if ARR oral B12 is working, if not then will do injections.

my bloodwork is consistently at >1999

[bass]

my bloodwork is consistently at >1999

I am assuming because you're supplementing orally?

[crazy mike]

agree with this...cyanide is a no no for me

So maybe you could explain here.

Not really, Mike. No issues with Cyanocobalamin even in incredibly massive doses.

Now as I had posted elsewhere I am looking into a better understanding what the meth- synthesis is that allows the body to absorb the Methyl B-12 better and thus the benefits but I haven't gotten to that yet. I'm still reading.

Now I paste this on here to one support the Methyl B-12 and in reply to your post Aust~. But see I will admit I'm not fully in the understanding of this literature. I did say that I didn't know how much you would have to take. Maybe a truck load. But my point was only to show maybe we shouldn't load up on so much Cyan - B-12 looking for the affects they say we can obtain.

What's in your vitamin B-12? If your vitamin label says cyanocobalamin, it is a cheap, synthetic chemical made in the laboratory that is produced with cyanide. Low-end vitamin manufacturers use this to claim that their product "contains vitamin B-12." They won't tell you that this form of B-12 is bound to a toxic cyanide molecule that must then be detoxified from your body by your liver. Curiously, cyanide is a known poison.

Cyanide causes a chemical change that keeps the oxygen from getting into your red blood cells.
No matter how cyanide gets into your body, it works the same way. It can be inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through the skin and/or muscle. If you are exposed to even small amounts of cyanide you will have the following symptoms: rapid breathing/heartbeat, restlessness and decreased ability to stay on task, dizziness, weakness, headache, eye itching/burning, nausea/vomiting.

If you are exposed to a large amount of cyanide it can cause convulsions/seizures, very slow heartbeat, loss of consciousness, breathing cessation and death. Not something you want in your friendly vitamin!


Meet the hero!
Vitamin B-12 has the largest and most complex chemical structure of all vitamins. It contains the metal ion cobalt and thus, the term cobalamin is used for the scientific name of B-12. The coenzyme form of vitamin B-12, AKA methylcobalamin, is the primary form of the vitamin used by the body.

Vitamin B-12 is essential for optimum liver function and is critical for normal brain and nervous system operation. B-12 deficiencies can lead to symptoms that are mistaken for Alzheimer's disease. Low B-12 levels can cause irritability, apathy, confusion, forgetfulness, serious depression, dementia, paranoia and/or hallucinations. Sometimes a little methylcobalamin is enough to boost the old mental blues.

A Johns Hopkins study recorded that women with the lowest levels of B-12 were up to four times more likely to develop breast cancer than those with higher levels. B-12 deficiency is connected to osteoporosis as B-12 is crucial to the formation of osteoblasts (bone-forming cells). Studies also show that intramuscular methylcobalamin injections are a very wonderful source of shingles relief.


Meet the villain
The history of vitamin B-12 and the switch from the methyl to the cyanide form of B-12 is the result of using charcoal to filter extracts during the isolation of B-12. Cyanide in charcoal rapidly converts all natural forms of B-12 into the cheaper "more stable" (but NOT better) cyanide form. Because of this fact, the discovery of B-12 coenzymes and their life-altering metabolic role was delayed for years. Once again, Big Money and sloppy science are helping destroy your health.

Most B-12 circulating in the blood is in the methylcobalamin form. Before the body can use the cyanocobalamin form, it must be converted by the liver to methylcobalamin. Not only does the cyanide in cyanocobalamin poison you like some crazy rendition of Arsenic and Old Lace, the cyanide actually depletes your body of stored methyl groups. At the same time, these methyls are needed to synthesize cobalamin in your liver.

Children with autism do not process methylate properly - causing anxiety, panic and other problems. High Homocysteine levels in Autism are caused by the lack of methylation. Methylcobalamin is the only form of vitamin B-12 which can directly participate in homocysteine metabolism in children with Autism and other development issues.

Methylcobalamin is the most reduced form of vitamin B-12; possible making it a very potent antioxidant. This is one of the main vitamins which many people are deficient in. This is especially true in older adults and vegetarians. If you buy the supplement or take a B-12 shot, always use the active methylcobalamin form and NEVER use the cyanocobalamin form that has cyanide attached to it.

Throw away your cyanocobalamin and find some methylcobalamin today.

Sources for this article

Cyanide Poisoning - Care Guide
Cyanocobalamin Injection: MedlinePlus Drug Information
Search of: "Vitamin B 12" - List Results - ClinicalTrials.gov

...crazy mike

[crazy mike]

bump

[austinite]

bump

Those are articles, not studies. in other words, mere opinions.

[crazy mike]

Those are articles, not studies. in other words, mere opinions.

No argument. This was just one out of a dozen articles of my searching. I shouldn't have said anything until I had a better understanding of the entire B-12 research I was doing. If I'm mistaken I apologize for jumping the gun. Not good to do ...crazy mike

[austinite]

No reason to apologize. Just a discussion

Either way, Cyanocobalamin sucks , we can all agree on that.

[crazy mike]

No reason to apologize. Just a discussion

Either way, Cyanocobalamin sucks , we can all agree on that.

Ah ha!!... yepper ! we agree on that. I'll say it again this Methyl has just got me going. Oh and so does the Cialis my doctor gave me last week, ....crazy mike

[powerlifterty16]

I am assuming because you're supplementing orally?

yeah i use jarrow 5000 methyl

[powerlifterty16]

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mike, regardless of what the studies say, im not interested in having cyanide in my body, and methyl b12 is the coenzyme anyway so no reason other than price to avoid it

[Vettester]

Here's an older article on B12 Methyl/cyna from Dr. Peter D'Adamo, who has a lot of naturopathic information related to anti-aging and wellness. A lot of his practice and platform is based on blood type specific to each individual. Kind of a different angle than what we see most of the time.

Cyanocobalamin Versus Methylcobalamin

[powerlifterty16]

it's very important to let the sublingual dissolve under the tongue because the gut kills b12 due to the gut's intrinsic factors.