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    Do you go through Dr. or self prescribe?

    Just out of curiosity. Out of all the guys on this forum that are on TRT how many of you are actually prescribed it through a DR? From what I gather, for those of you who know what you are doing, know to get regular lab work, and learn enough about the human body to interpret that blood work, you could administer yourself. Just after reading through the threads I am left wondering if you are talking about prescribed TRT or self administered TRT.
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    I have dr.

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    Prescription T-cyp, self medicating HCG
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    im sure, i and a bunch of others here could self prescribe a good protocol, but for me personally, i would never do it....i have a lot of years left and too much to lose....it's a dr or nothing...even if i dont get trt now ill get it within 20 years im sure

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    most of us do BW and learn how to interpret it so we can make the proper adjustments to achieve optimal balance in hormones and to feel great, not to self medicate! there is allot more involved with TRT than just getting dialed in, that's why we need doctors to keep an eye on things that we don't understand and have no experience in. I am under doctor's care and will never consider doing self medicating. it was tempting at one point but the more I learn the more I reject the idea if self medicating. also we have to worry about getting legit meds, you can't get them from rat labs!
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    Dr prescribes all my stuff. I'm a fireman by profession, not a doctor by a long shot.

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    I thought about seeing a doctor and then self prescribing later but there are just too many variables for me to have to worry about.

    With some docs I think you would be just as well off self prescribing though, that's why it is so important to get educated on it. That way you know if you do have one of those good Drs.

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    Look at it this way ... Tiger Woods and the best golfers in the world still have coaches that they work with. IMO, from the best of the best on this forum to the complete beginner, we should all have one common denominator, a good physician! It's not about if you can manage your test serum level and E2 adequately, it's really about the multitude of other variables that need to be considered in a total complete health program.

    I'm have a phone visit with mine this morning. 1/2 of it will be just shooting the breeze. However, there's several things on the agenda ranging from some recent thyroid labs, my new D3 oil base injection protocol w/ l carnitine, some general observations with my well being, sleep, etc., just to name a few. He's my coach to help fine tune my program and to see the various areas where we can improve and optimize my well being.

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    I have a doctor for my trt.

    However the doctor i had when i first started i may have been better off self medicating!! lol

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    Would never do it w/o a doctor, when I did my IGF 1 test my doc did some other tests to check if I was prone to cancer, he said if you do HGH or GHRP-6 and have cancer it will kill you quick. That alone is a good reason to use a doc that knows what he's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctenosaura View Post
    Prescription T-cyp, self medicating HCG
    This for me too.

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    After going to 4 docs then moving country I decided to self medicate but now I have health coverage I am going to go searching for a good dr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett N View Post
    I thought about seeing a doctor and then self prescribing later but there are just too many variables for me to have to worry about.

    With some docs I think you would be just as well off self prescribing though, that's why it is so important to get educated on it. That way you know if you do have one of those good Drs.
    i think a good middle of the road option, is for people to find a dr who doesnt know what they are doing, and to ''self medicate'' using the stuff the dr prescribes..this is what 2sox is doing in a way. he uses barry gordon who prescribes IM needles, and 2sox is using his own sub q...and also is injecting more frequently than barry gordon would allow. unfortunately barry gordon doesnt prescribe adex or hcg so 2sox had to go the uground route for that...but my point is if you could find a dr who prescribes these meds, you atleast have a legal prescription and can treat yourself properly.
    i am glad im going to shippen though, he knows his stuff.

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    I am debating doing it on my own. I'll see how my endo appt goes and go from there. I really don't want to have to be is it 20 different T doctors to treat me properly. I prefer a doc supervision though especially where I may want another kid next year.

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    doc but no hcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    Look at it this way ... Tiger Woods and the best golfers in the world still have coaches that they work with. IMO, from the best of the best on this forum to the complete beginner, we should all have one common denominator, a good physician! It's not about if you can manage your test serum level and E2 adequately, it's really about the multitude of other variables that need to be considered in a total complete health program.

    I'm have a phone visit with mine this morning. 1/2 of it will be just shooting the breeze. However, there's several things on the agenda ranging from some recent thyroid labs, my new D3 oil base injection protocol w/ l carnitine, some general observations with my well being, sleep, etc., just to name a few. He's my coach to help fine tune my program and to see the various areas where we can improve and optimize my well being.
    are you saying you had a pharmacy add D3 to your test mixture? This is very interesting am I am trying to bring my D levels up from <10 so would love to hear about what you are doing.

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    I have Dr also. I also would not self medicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    Look at it this way ... Tiger Woods and the best golfers in the world still have coaches that they work with. IMO, from the best of the best on this forum to the complete beginner, we should all have one common denominator, a good physician! It's not about if you can manage your test serum level and E2 adequately, it's really about the multitude of other variables that need to be considered in a total complete health program.

    I'm have a phone visit with mine this morning. 1/2 of it will be just shooting the breeze. However, there's several things on the agenda ranging from some recent thyroid labs, my new D3 oil base injection protocol w/ l carnitine, some general observations with my well being, sleep, etc., just to name a few. He's my coach to help fine tune my program and to see the various areas where we can improve and optimize my well being.
    There ya go^^

    Some of us are pretty decent at this stuff but we are still "not" doctors. Or even close to LTM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt

    are you saying you had a pharmacy add D3 to your test mixture? This is very interesting am I am trying to bring my D levels up from <10 so would love to hear about what you are doing.
    Actually, it's just straight D3 dosed at 100,000iu/ml, and its viscosity is about the same as what you see with cypionate . I'm adding .2ml of it with my 2x week cyp injection. My bad, the L carnitine is mixed combo with the B12 methyl that I got, which stacks good with HCG .

    The items mentioned above are both examples of where the value added benefits come into play with my doctor. On that note, I've been on the other side of the fence, and I know all too well about having to be proactive to find wellness due to an ineffective medical team.

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    I have doctor that does blood work and provides scripts. I self inject at home. Started at a clinic where they injected me every week (and I paid an insurance copay every week.)

    Self administration under a doctors care is the way to go.
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    Here's a question: is it considered self medicating if your doctor prescribes HCG and you buy your HCG from a peptide lab instead of a pharmacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    i think a good middle of the road option, is for people to find a dr who doesnt know what they are doing, and to ''self medicate'' using the stuff the dr prescribes..this is what 2sox is doing in a way. he uses barry gordon who prescribes IM needles, and 2sox is using his own sub q...and also is injecting more frequently than barry gordon would allow. unfortunately barry gordon doesnt prescribe adex or hcg so 2sox had to go the uground route for that...but my point is if you could find a dr who prescribes these meds, you atleast have a legal prescription and can treat yourself properly.
    i am glad im going to shippen though, he knows his stuff.
    Actually, I'm being treated by two doctors; a urologist - Dr. S, and an internist-turned-TRT-doctor - E. Barry Gordon, Brooklyn, NY. Neither of them prescribe an AI as part of a TRT protocol and neither will write for hCG. So Powerlifter is correct - I'm on my own in this territory and I purchase both overseas or from Ar-r . It's working out just fine.

    Dr. S does everything but shots. At this point, I have not told him that I am being treated by Gordon with test cyp. As far as he is concerned, I'm on Androgel . I also get blood work done every month at Dr. S's office. All my labs from his office can be accessed online through Patient Fusion making it very convenient. Gordon will take blood every two months and that's okay with me. If I feel I need extra blood tests I can get them prescribed by my allergist, who I have had a very good relationship with over many years.

    The bottom line is that a physician's supervision is a MUST but you have to work things out so that your health is the first priority - not the doctor's practice.

    A note about protocols: I think the more of us on this and other forums discuss with their doctors the protocols that are successfully working for us, the better it will be for all of us. The low dose, higher frequency, SQ protocols we have been using here can be the trend of the future and many after us can benefit from a discussion of this with our doctors now.
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