Help: Trt Deca and recent ED after 12th week

**Ccdiesel** · 06-07-2014, 01:00 PM

Kel, there are no alternatives to running deca for any sort of joint pain relief or collagen synthesis increases?

Deca obviously works well because it got me training again and overall much better feeling. I was curious if a testosterone derived derivative compound yields any similar effects that could be sustainable in a trt protocol setting.

**Ccdiesel** · 06-08-2014, 09:09 AM

Kel, also it's been two weeks since my last shot of deca . Estrogen is reduced but not as fast as you would think. Aromasin dosing has been twice daily 25mgs and I've noticed improvements but I can tell that's not causing the ED.

So deca is obviously the problem, is there anything I can do to recover faster? Or just have to wait until a couple half lives pass. If dht has to compete with DHN you would think keeping my test level higher for a while couldn't hurt.

Cialis does nothing. I can get things going I just can't keep them going. Mornings seem to be alright though.

**Ccdiesel** · 06-09-2014, 11:00 AM

Bump any input?

**Ccdiesel** · 06-10-2014, 04:37 PM

Bump

**Ryanmcd** · 06-10-2014, 06:35 PM

Don't run deca if you want to have sex, talk to your doctor?

**m314** · 06-12-2014, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ccdiesel

Kel, also it's been two weeks since my last shot of deca . Estrogen is reduced but not as fast as you would think. Aromasin dosing has been twice daily 25mgs and I've noticed improvements but I can tell that's not causing the ED.

So deca is obviously the problem, is there anything I can do to recover faster? Or just have to wait until a couple half lives pass. If dht has to compete with DHN you would think keeping my test level higher for a while couldn't hurt.

Cialis does nothing. I can get things going I just can't keep them going. Mornings seem to be alright though.

Caber helped to some degree when I was going through the same thing. It wasn't a fix, though. I could take 40 mg of cialis and 200 mg of v (spam filter won't let me say it). I'd get hard enough to ****, but I'd still go soft halfway through. Ultimately, the only thing that worked for me was quitting deca for good and waiting a while.

25 mg of aromasin twice a day might be too much. Low estrogen can cause ED just like high estrogen. It's best to get stabilized on one dose for a few weeks, get blood work, and adjust until you get it right.

**Ccdiesel** · 06-13-2014, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by m314

Caber helped to some degree when I was going through the same thing. It wasn't a fix, though. I could take 40 mg of cialis and 200 mg of v (spam filter won't let me say it). I'd get hard enough to ****, but I'd still go soft halfway through. Ultimately, the only thing that worked for me was quitting deca for good and waiting a while.

25 mg of aromasin twice a day might be too much. Low estrogen can cause ED just like high estrogen. It's best to get stabilized on one dose for a few weeks, get blood work, and adjust until you get it right.

Thanks for the input. How much were you taking and how long until you regained use? Haha if you don't mind me asking. The little bit I was taking seemed to do a lot of damage in that regard.

Joints and body felt great though. Getting another estrogen and prolactin test now to check that but it's definitely the DHN vs dht displacement. Adding test has helped.

**Ccdiesel** · 06-15-2014, 07:12 PM

Estrogen 39
Prolactin 7.5

Neither high enough to cause disfunction for me, and haven't in the past. So deca / DHN causes disfunction in my case.

Already has increased joint sensitivity after discontinuing deca use. Has any ran any other alternative for deca to ease joint pain and inflammation?