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    Need help interpreting bloodwork

    Hey guys, got off the phone with dr just now. I did a physical a couple weeks ago. I'm not understanding these numbers. Free test: 22.1, total test: 106, lh:0.2, fsh: 0.7, estrogen: 141. It's been almost 4 months since I've cycled. Ran hcg , ai and pct. I know the e is high, are the others high, low or in between? If anything else is needed to interpret the situation I could go get the complete results. Thanks for the time

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    You never recovered...at all.
    Run another PCT, and try to get legit chems this time around. If they were legit before, you could be screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte
    You never recovered...at all. Run another PCT, and try to get legit chems this time around. If they were legit before, you could be screwed.

    Agreed, for sure - but, why would the e stay that high?

    Also - OP, how do you feel? Them numbers aren't so swell at all

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    I appreciate the straight answer man. U figure I should try arr's chems for four weeks like a normal pct? Strange cause other than a little libido loss i feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Agreed, for sure - but, why would the e stay that high?
    Androgens antagonize estrogen. Without adequate DHT, E2 levels can rise.

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    I appreciate the straight answer man. U figure I should try arr's chems for four weeks like a normal pct? Strange cause other than a little libido loss i feel good.
    I'd run Torem + Nolva for 6 weeks. Maybe throw in a low dose of aromasin as well to get that E2 under control.
    Also, go ahead and post up the actual lab report if possible, so we can get the full picture here.

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    It'll be tomorrow before I can pick it up. I just got some of it over the phone

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    okay ive got the results. ill list the out of range results: alt (liver)53 h (9-46), t3 uptake 36% h(22-35%), estrogen, total, serum 141 h, fsh 0.7, lh 0.2,total test 106L(250- 1100), free test 22.1L (35-155) everything else is in range. last cycle was test and deca . dr wanted to start me on trt, he called me out on what i was doing. i guess it was pretty obvious. i told him im gonna hold off till i have no option but to go on. i dont have any atrophy that i can tell of. i ordered the pct to try that again.

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    it was shocking to see these numbers, i still have good intensity in the gym. held on to my strength. my 1rm is holding, hell ive actually been gaining on my squats.

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    I'd say get a independent set of BW

    It just sounds a bit off

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    I appreciate your response, what looks off to u? I'm not much when it comes to the medical field. I'd like to get another blood panel except our mines have shut down and currently sucking on the states tit- no insurance for now. I was thinking of taking the bloodwork at face value and starting another pct.

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    I know that lh and fsh fluctuate but coupled with the shit test levels- it doesn't look promising at all

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    Your total test is so low - just going by #'s, I would say that you'd feel like crap. But, that's just what I know so far.


    Go online to like a private lab place, it doesn't cost much

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Your total test is so low - just going by #'s, I would say that you'd feel like crap. But, that's just what I know so far.


    Go online to like a private lab place, it doesn't cost much
    Why?
    The results are obvious and concise: he has low T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunjohn242002 View Post
    okay ive got the results. ill list the out of range results: alt (liver)53 h (9-46),
    I would expect liver enzyme to be a little high due to the cycle. I use NAC for liver support. Works pretty good.

    t3 uptake 36% h(22-35%),
    T3 half life is like a day so it should go back down unless you're on T3 for cutting.

    estrogen, total, serum 141 h, fsh 0.7, lh 0.2,total test 106L(250- 1100), free test 22.1L (35-155) everything else is in range. last cycle was test and deca. dr wanted to start me on trt, he called me out on what i was doing. i guess it was pretty obvious. i told him im gonna hold off till i have no option but to go on. i dont have any atrophy that i can tell of. i ordered the pct to try that again.
    Yeah, like Boneparte says, you got low T. I would wait 4 weeks and get another blood draw and see if your Test is trending up or down. If it's constant or trending down you're a good candidate for TRT.

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    What's your say on clomid Bonaparte? U thinkin it's a bad choice cause of e levels or u just prefer torem?scotchguard I'm gonna do this pct again, u think I should hold off till a couple weeks after pct or longer to get true values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunjohn242002
    What's your say on clomid Bonaparte? U thinkin it's a bad choice cause of e levels or u just prefer torem?scotchguard I'm gonna do this pct again, u think I should hold off till a couple weeks after pct or longer to get true values?

    You should wait at least six weeks after PCT to get bloodwork.

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    Appreciate the info gentlemen

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