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    New Blood work after adding 100 mg decca per week. Over 1500 total test?

    New bloods after adding 100 mg decca to my 120 mg test cyp a week protocol split into 2 doses(50 mg and 60 mg). I'm dialed in around 1100 total test and 25 free before adding decca i'm wondering if it is a mistake or if decca did that? I think I will retest in 2 weeks.

    The good news is my hematocrit is down.

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    Also my IGF-1 plummeted form 337 to 151. My Ipam cjc1295 no dac 3-4 times a day protocol just freaking quit on me. Or i got some bunk stuff. 151 was around my beginning numbers. ive been consistently over 300 for a year now

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    You might want to order a labmax kit and test it to see if maybe it's test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You might want to order a labmax kit and test it to see if maybe it's test?

    I stopped it 8 days before testing anyway because slight ed issues. And I don't think it's test because boy did it do it's job on my joints and I put on a ton of water weight. Starting around the 5 week mark my joints and tendons were 100% better. Could almost doubling my test dose of done that? I don't know if it matters but ive always tested at 72 hours after injection and this time it was 48 hours. I knew I was testing 24 hours earlier than usual so i actually lowered my dose to 50 mg from 60 before testing as well.

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    Now I'm wondering if the ipam and cjc 1295 no dac I was taking was actually hcg . Since my igf-1 also tanked.

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    Test will peak in 24-48 hrs so that could explain your elevated readings. I run 60 - 70 mgs x 2 per week and will stay in the 1400 - 1500's as well.
    Add micronized DHEA to your protocol which will help elevate your IGF-1. I use dhea.com which is McPherson Labs. Made a huge difference in levels for me. Maybe start with 25mgs and titrate according to your next BW.
    Your E2 is to low. If taking an AI you need to adjust and take less or maybe none at all.
    Deca won't read as test on blood work.
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    Thanks kel. Ive been on micronized dhea and pregnenelone since on hrt. I use MRM brand but I'll try Mcpherson.

    I added in a ai when i thought the decca was increasing estrogen. Not much though like 5 mg twice a week, I respond very well to arimidex .

    My blood has been as high as 20.1 hemo and after self bleeding 4 times and giving blood as often as I can at 2 different blood banks I finally have it at 16.00. I'm hoping every 8 weeks now should suffice.

    I'm still concerned with igf-1 being cut in half in 6 months.

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    Ive got a doctor appointment today we'll see what hes says but he is the one that says elevated hematocrit isn't dangerous and that is the old school way of looking at things. he says new research says it's actually good for you. Yea, that's why this place is sooooo very important to me for help.

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    Ask him for links to the new research. Would love to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasondd1 View Post
    Thanks kel. Ive been on micronized dhea and pregnenelone since on hrt. I use MRM brand but I'll try Mcpherson.

    I added in a ai when i thought the decca was increasing estrogen. Not much though like 5 mg twice a week, I respond very well to arimidex .

    My blood has been as high as 20.1 hemo and after self bleeding 4 times and giving blood as often as I can at 2 different blood banks I finally have it at 16.00. I'm hoping every 8 weeks now should suffice.

    I'm still concerned with igf-1 being cut in half in 6 months.
    I myself used to use MRM Brand. Somethings changed with their product in the past year or so and based on poor BW levels I switched to the more expensive McPherson Brand. It instantly made a huge difference. Exact numbers were 63 on a scale of 48 - 344 with MRM. Switched to McPherson and next BW I was at 426.3 on the same scale. That sold me. I now use both their preg and dhea.

    Adex at .5 mg x 2 per week not much? Yes it is! An average dosage for a 500 mg per week test cycle is .25 eod. Do the math as you are taking more than than! Read up on Polycythemia. You may want to drop your T dose a bit as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OingoBoingo View Post
    Ask him for links to the new research. Would love to read it.
    Be holding our breath for those studies.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I myself used to use MRM Brand. Somethings changed with their product in the past year or so and based on poor BW levels I switched to the more expensive McPherson Brand. It instantly made a huge difference. Exact numbers were 63 on a scale of 48 - 344 with MRM. Switched to McPherson and next BW I was at 426.3 on the same scale. That sold me. I now use both their preg and dhea.

    Adex at .5 mg x 2 per week not much? Yes it is! An average dosage for a 500 mg per week test cycle is .25 eod. Do the math as you are taking more than than! Read up on Polycythemia. You may want to drop your T dose a bit as well.
    Sorry I meant .05 mg twice a week.

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    I think my Hemo went crazy because of TB500. It increases red blood cell count and when I was at my highest i was loading tb500. I'm going to give blood every 8 weeks and see if that keeps it in check, if not every 4 since i have 2 blood banks to choose from. Thanks again kel

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    I really don't know why i see the doctor I see. All he does is hormone therapy and he spends all of 5 minutes with me. I do all the talking he just scans in the blood work I give him and writes the script for test. I can buy the test without a script for cheaper than my pharmacy charges. I might go back to my original doc she at least faked it about caring when talking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I myself used to use MRM Brand. Somethings changed with their product in the past year or so and based on poor BW levels I switched to the more expensive McPherson Brand. It instantly made a huge difference. Exact numbers were 63 on a scale of 48 - 344 with MRM. Switched to McPherson and next BW I was at 426.3 on the same scale. That sold me. I now use both their preg and dhea.

    Adex at .5 mg x 2 per week not much? Yes it is! An average dosage for a 500 mg per week test cycle is .25 eod. Do the math as you are taking more than than! Read up on Polycythemia. You may want to drop your T dose a bit as well.
    Strongly urge you to do the read up on the highlighted text above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Strongly urge you to do the read up on the highlighted text above.
    Well my rbc is just barely above range and my hemo and hema are back in range so I'm hopeful regular blood donations will keep me in good standings. They wouldn't let me donate for a year because i had traveled to mexico and i think that played a role. Plus I have always been on pushing the envelope on hema, hemo and rbc even before hrt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasondd1 View Post
    Well my rbc is just barely above range and my hemo and hema are back in range so I'm hopeful regular blood donations will keep me in good standings. They wouldn't let me donate for a year because i had traveled to mexico and i think that played a role. Plus I have always been on pushing the envelope on hema, hemo and rbc even before hrt.
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