Adding Deca to TRT

**Brett N** · 08-30-2015, 05:04 PM

Good to know, I was just trying to decrease injections for subQ.

Would .3m test, .5ml deca and .1ml of HCG in one injection be too much for subQ?? Would splitting deca be better if it's not?

That would be either .9ml subQ on monday and .4 on Thursday or .65ml on Monday and .65ml on Thursday. I know, I tend to overthink things.

**kelkel** · 08-30-2015, 05:59 PM

I'd think you're looking for a lump with idea #1. Go with door #2. Nothing wrong with injecting it twice weekly, it's just not necessary.
You looking to totally avoid IM Brett?

**Brett N** · 08-30-2015, 07:16 PM

Yeah. Mostly because I have about 300 27gauge syringes I got a good deal on. Plus it goes off a lot easier and more painless for me.

**kelkel** · 08-30-2015, 09:03 PM

27 ga by what length?

**Brett N** · 08-31-2015, 03:59 AM

1/2 slin pins. Ordered from a diabetes site.

They had them ranging from 27g up to 31g. 27 is painless but still draws at a decent rate. Only 1 ml though.

**Brett N** · 10-09-2015, 01:42 PM

So I have been on the TRT with deca for about 5-6 weeks.

Is it possible that adding Deca could cause some tennis elbow symptoms?

I have been working more hours than normal. I am a mason so I work with my hands. In 20 years of being in the trade I have never experienced tennis elbow in either elbow, let alone both at the same time.

Been icing and taking weekends off now. Also starting wearing a band around elbows but no help.

**jasondd1** · 10-09-2015, 06:56 PM

Nope not the decca assuming your decca is real

Originally Posted by Brett N

So I have been on the TRT with deca for about 5-6 weeks.

Is it possible that adding Deca could cause some tennis elbow symptoms?

I have been working more hours than normal. I am a mason so I work with my hands. In 20 years of being in the trade I have never experienced tennis elbow in either elbow, let alone both at the same time.

Been icing and taking weekends off now. Also starting wearing a band around elbows but no help.

**Brett N** · 10-09-2015, 11:59 PM

I have no reason to believe the deca isn't real. Same source and brand as my test and blood work has confirmed test is good to go. Unigen is brand.

**charlie760** · 10-11-2015, 08:29 PM

hi kelkel and every body ,i am 50 year old man i been training for past four year, i am on trt 1.0 ml cyn once week for past six month till now and may stay on it for life, and like to add deca or equipoise or anavar 50 mg every day for 8 week what you think what kind and how much please so far all my blood work is fine i feel great except some joint ache so please help thank you

**jasondd1** · 10-11-2015, 10:28 PM

I think kel mention eq is bad on your lipids. Anavar might work, I can't take orals it messes with me bad. Decca is what I would do but it will just be kicking in in 8 weeks so i would either run it longer which is what many do or try npp instead. nap is Decca but with a different faster ester.

**kelkel** · 10-12-2015, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by charlie760

hi kelkel and every body ,i am 50 year old man i been training for past four year, i am on trt 1.0 ml cyn once week for past six month till now and may stay on it for life, and like to add deca or equipoise or anavar 50 mg every day for 8 week what you think what kind and how much please so far all my blood work is fine i feel great except some joint ache so please help thank you

If your goal is less joint pain then low dose deca would be the correct choice, as Jason said.

**Baldur2630** · 10-14-2015, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Tren's great stuff but isn't meant for long term use - yet...... That said, there are studies out there regarding very low dose Tren for TRT. Glad to see you're using a low dose. Far to many people go overboard with Tren when it's completely unnecessary as quality gains can be made with minimal dosing, which incurs minimal sides.

I wanted to make a short test to see if Trenbolone was as bad as some people make out. At the time I was on 240 mg Test 400 (mix of enan and cyp 400 mg/ml).

I added 75 mg Tren per week, half on Sun and half on Wednesday. I I'd it for 8 weeks, no sides at all. I want to try it again this winter.

**kelkel** · 10-14-2015, 09:55 AM

Tren A I assume?

**Baldur2630** · 10-14-2015, 10:10 AM

No, I read too many bad things about violent coughing and choking. At 74, I can well do without that. I used Tren Enanthate .

**Brett N** · 12-03-2015, 05:27 PM

So basically 13 weeks of Deca . I am quitting it!! Skipped today and will not inject it again. Sadly I have 2 more full vials. 120mg a week is dose I chose. This compound does not agree with me at all. I was on the higher side with my e2 anyways with TRT and .25 anastrozole so I bumped the ai up to 2x a week with anastrozole.

First and foremost, joint pain in my knees is still there. I don't think I felt any relief at all.

Secondly, I had some mad aggression. More than I ever had blasting 500mg of Test. I was and am a hot head while on it. I could logically reason my over reaction after the fact but I just couldn't prevent it. I am always a little high strong but I can usually have a long enough pause before my reaction to calm down. It was like I could feel the freak out happening but couldn't stop from following through.

Thirdly, I had some major jealousy issues. This is not normal at all for me. I started doubting my wifes faithfulness. Which, I have 0 reason to doubt. In 19 years I have never had any reason to be jealous. Her, on the other hand is a different story. I don't know whay I got jealous, I am normally very secure.

I thought after a couple weeks I would adjust and things would slide back to normal but they never did. I didn't proceed with bloodwork at 10 weeks although I probably should have. I figured after I never regained a normal, it was best to go back to my happy TRT only. I saw a Doc for my knee pain and he gave my Mobic. I will give it a try and see how it goes.

Just wanted to update those who have an interest. This was just my experience.