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    Wife and i are trying for a child. Advice?

    So I'm on trt been on for a couple of years now, some of which I've used hcg and some not. My question is should i start off at 250iu of hcg twice a week or should i go with 500iu twice a week? How soon could i impregnat her?

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    I am in the same boat - My doc is having me do 500IU 3 times a week - MWF

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    What's your trt dosage?

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    200 mgs every 6 days but I do half every 3.5 days. Tuesday night Sat Morning

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    have you tried clomid therapy???


    http://www.texasfertilitycenter.com/...clomid-in-men/


    The Fertility Drug, Clomid can be used to increase Sperm Counts


    Once the urologist has eliminated an anatomic cause for the problem, we can treat these men with clomiphene citrate (Clomid), the same drug that we give women who are not ovulating correctly. When given to men, Clomid causes an increase in FSH and LH secretion– leading to an increase in both sperm production and testosterone secretion.
    Guys may need to take Clomid for at least 3-4 months to see the optimal effect, as it takes 90-108 or so days from the time a sperm is made until it is ejaculated. Clomid comes in 50 mg tablets and the typical starting dose for a man is either 50 mg every other day or 25 mg daily. About three weeks after a man starts taking Clomid, we will recheck his FSH, LH, and testosterone levels to make sure that they are not too high. If the testosterone level gets above the normal range, it can actually cause the sperm count to go down, rather than up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kewe View Post
    200 mgs every 6 days but I do half every 3.5 days. Tuesday night Sat Morning
    My dose is the same i just take mine Monday and Thursday.

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    I've thought about adding clomid but would like a few more opinions on it

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    have you tried clomid therapy???


    The Use of Clomid in Men | Texas Fertility Center Blog


    The Fertility Drug, Clomid can be used to increase Sperm Counts


    Once the urologist has eliminated an anatomic cause for the problem, we can treat these men with clomiphene citrate (Clomid), the same drug that we give women who are not ovulating correctly. When given to men, Clomid causes an increase in FSH and LH secretion– leading to an increase in both sperm production and testosterone secretion.
    Guys may need to take Clomid for at least 3-4 months to see the optimal effect, as it takes 90-108 or so days from the time a sperm is made until it is ejaculated. Clomid comes in 50 mg tablets and the typical starting dose for a man is either 50 mg every other day or 25 mg daily. About three weeks after a man starts taking Clomid, we will recheck his FSH, LH, and testosterone levels to make sure that they are not too high. If the testosterone level gets above the normal range, it can actually cause the sperm count to go down, rather than up.

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    I just simply added clomid into my trt protocol of 200 mlg test cyp per week along with 2-250iu shots of hcg per week and 1 mlg anstrozole

    Doc also said u stand a great chance of having a girl if the guy takes clomid and a boy if the chick takes the clomid? Dunno where that came from but it was true!

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    I was on TRT for about 1.5 years when my wife & I decided to have a 2nd child. She got off the pill & I continued with my normal protocol of 60mgs twice a week & 250iu of HCG twice a week & she was pregnant in about 3 months. Our healthy baby girl is now 7 months old

    Good luck to you!

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    Unless someone can show me a study showing otherwise I don't believe clomid will do a thing for you while on exogenous testosterone . It won't over-power the LH/FSH shut down caused by injected testosterone. The majority of exo-T will have to clear your system first. If it were the case, AAS users would have been doing this for decades rendering PCT unnecessary.
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    There is no real study I have found

    But,

    When taking clomid while on test your nut/load size does increase. Yet, I am not sure if it from a higher sperm production - or?

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    There is no real study I have found

    But,

    When taking clomid while on test your nut/load size does increase. Yet, I am not sure if it from a higher sperm production - or?
    Yeah i dont think there is any relation to the size of the load and the quality of the sperm in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    There is no real study I have found

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    When taking clomid while on test your nut/load size does increase. Yet, I am not sure if it from a higher sperm production - or?
    I had the opposite reaction to it. Nuts shrank, ejaculate volume didn't change, and nuts hurt worse than normal. Only thing I noticed was a low grade constant headache while on it. Dropped clomid and started hcg and then things increased. I don't care about fertility issues however because I am already fixed and need no more children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64509chvl View Post
    I was on TRT for about 1.5 years when my wife & I decided to have a 2nd child. She got off the pill & I continued with my normal protocol of 60mgs twice a week & 250iu of HCG twice a week & she was pregnant in about 3 months. Our healthy baby girl is now 7 months old

    Good luck to you!
    Thank you for your input! Your protocol is almost identical to mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Unless someone can show me a study showing otherwise I don't believe clomid will do a thing for you while on exogenous testosterone. It won't over-power the LH/FSH shut down caused by injected testosterone. The majority of exo-T will have to clear your system first. If it were the case, AAS users would have been doing this for decades rendering PCT unnecessary.
    Great info and logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon6 View Post
    Great info and logic
    Mark down this date and time as it doesn't happen often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Mark down this date and time as it doesn't happen often.
    Bahah love the sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Unless someone can show me a study showing otherwise I don't believe clomid will do a thing for you while on exogenous testosterone. It won't over-power the LH/FSH shut down caused by injected testosterone. The majority of exo-T will have to clear your system first. If it were the case, AAS users would have been doing this for decades rendering PCT unnecessary.
    Exactly, you would need to stop trt to go down his route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon6 View Post
    Thank you for your input! Your protocol is almost identical to mine.
    Hey no problem buddy! We really didn't get our hopes up too high so it was a really nice surprise when we found out! We didn't pay much attention to detail as far as days to try or any other BS...simply as often as possible

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    Good advice in here.

    I personally think 300 iu twice a week is PLENTY. Of note, HCG is like insulin , in that your body will have a resistence level, so you don't want to blast too much at once. 300 to 350 is the max amount for one injection.

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